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ToeJam13

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Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Originally posted by: ToeJam13
Fastest car? No.

Fastest truck? Perhaps.
Nope. Not even close. I guess you missed the pictures and description of your truck's daddy in one of my posts above.
But your does sound like it's a lot of fun.


Yeah, I didn't see your post. I'll have to look again.

Honestly, I know my truck isn't as fast as others out there. However, the S-10 isn't made for that kind of torque. I have heard of people who put in SB 400s into their S-10s, and the twisting force warped their frame. Driving on 3 wheels sucks IMHO.

Besides, the stock S-10 rear axil only handles 280 or so HP. My AWD kit skirts the problem a bit, but if I were to ever go with a turbo or super kit with some different heads, I'd have to yank both front and rear axils out and swap 'em in with something better. Given that the S-10 has IFS, I dread the work needed to replace the front.
 

scsi drv1

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Originally posted by: infestedgh0st
Originally posted by: scsi drv1
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: scsi drv1
2001 Lexus IS300
I rule!
At least in the vitural world known as the Internet.

Are you serious? If you'd like pictures of me and my car let me know. I like making people eat their words and ur up for a serving.

pics of your is 300 (if it's turboed) please.

No turbo, I was looking into one but they run about 5k for what I would want. Plus I dont race so their just isnt a point.

 

scsi drv1

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Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
Originally posted by: scsi drv1
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: scsi drv1
2001 Lexus IS300
I rule!
At least in the vitural world known as the Internet.

Are you serious? If you'd like pictures of me and my car let me know. I like making people eat their words and ur up for a serving.

I don't think he doubts the first line. I doubt the second line as well.

Okay, in forums you should speak english. leave the so-called leet forms for w.o.w.. now try making that comment again so that it actually makes sense or shut up.
 

scsi drv1

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Originally posted by: exdeath
'03 Cobra + Kenne Bell + Bassani setup @ 700 RWHP on high octane. All mods total less than $10k. Very nice for not having to pull heads on a stock engine.

Haven't tracked it at all, but it's well known that other 03/04 Cobra's with this setup are in the 10s and 11s on street radials without NOS.

Octane and hookup are extremely problematic, esp running a ceramic clutch disk with street radials. To go any further would mean a race only car. Not the fastest car in the world, but better than 99% of whats out there and allows me to keep my dignity when some egotistical prick in daddy's BMW or a ricer trys to start it. When I get out of school and have time to set up shop, I wanna look into building a 5.4L short block (or maybe see about the new Shelby Cobra if they have it in a convertible model and another color but red and white)


He gets my vote. even though i still like my lexus better:)
 

wbresson

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fastest as in top speed ? I can do a tad under 200, say 195'ish, I've never been that fast but its a known fact in my car. I'm stock for now, don't want to void the 60k mile powertrain warrenty
 

Slickone

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Originally posted by: Mwilding
Slightly modified 95 Honda Civic

I should be under 10S but the fetzer valve keeps sticking.
Prepare that fetzer valve with some 3-in-1 oil and some gauze pads.


Originally posted by: Thin Lizzy
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Originally posted by: QuitBanningMe
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Originally posted by: Thin Lizzy
Not sure if I do have the fastest, but I turbocharged my 1993 Nissan Maxima about 3 months ago. Right now, it's at about 450 HP. :)

Sorry dude, but I call bigtime shens. The SE starts off at 190 hp and a turbo sure as hell ain't gonna add no 260 hp. Not even with every mod possible.

:confused: My engine puts down 400+ hp and it started at 135hp.

That's fine. I have no idea what kind of car you have but there is nothing that you can do to the Maxima's base engine to get that. Now if you dropped something else in there, maybe, but then is it really a Maxima anymore?


That's a completely igorant statement, I'm assuming u don't know what engine is in the 89-94 gxe. It's the VG30e. Before u make anymore incompetent statements, do a search on google. The VG30e is the same engine that is in the 84-89 300zx turbo and non turbo. It's also in the same family as VG30de which is what is in the 90-96 300zx turbo and non turbos. Go to www.z31.com and see how many people with 84-89 300zx(which i will repeat, is the same engine as the one in my brother's maxima) are putting down 350-600whp(that's at the wheels, not the crank rating) with the STOCK bottom end. Even the maxima with the VQ30de engine (which is in the same family as the VQ35, which is in the 350z) have been achieving power levels of 350-560whp. So i do highly recommend that u do more research. There are ppl with d series hondas running low 11's. That motor is about 100hp at the crank, stock. Let me add that the VG30 is an iron block V6 that has been proven to take 23psi on the stock block(properly intercooled, of course). Do u read any magazines such as import tuner, superstreet or any import magazine? There's one guy who runs 6 seconds in the 1/4 mile with an 86 300zx.....guess what engine he has....it's a VG. So, any car can be made fast, Hell there are 11 second minivans, so why can't a maxima be fast? Google is ur friend.

www.maxima.org go the the turbocharged/supercharged section
www.z31.com learn about the VG engine
www.twinturbo.net learn more about the VG engine
www.google.com search is ur friend
I have a 300ZXT and used to hang out on z31.com. The highest HP Z31 that I ever saw on there is 450HP - http://z31.com/board/print_profile.php3?user_id=161

BTW, you first said your Maxima had 450HP, then later changed it to "I bet it's possible".

I have to disagree on there being a huge aftermarket for the VG30. I'd say it's probably among the lowest of any performance car available in the US. VG30DE is a different story.

You would put leaded gas in your car?
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: Slickone

I have a 300ZXT and used to hang out on z31.com. The highest HP Z31 that I ever saw on there is 450HP - http://z31.com/board/print_profile.php3?user_id=161

BTW, you first said your Maxima had 450HP, then later changed it to "I bet it's possible".

I have to disagree on there being a huge aftermarket for the VG30. I'd say it's probably among the lowest of any performance car available in the US. VG30DE is a different story.

You would put leaded gas in your car?

That Z31 isn't anywhere close to being the highest HP Z31 there. I was a member on Z31 since late 1997 or early 1998. There have been numerous members there with higher HP Z's. The most powerful would probably be Steve Mitchell, with more than 500 hp. I saw his car at Zcon last year. It's a silver and black Z31.

 

Slickone

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: Slickone

I have a 300ZXT and used to hang out on z31.com. The highest HP Z31 that I ever saw on there is 450HP - http://z31.com/board/print_profile.php3?user_id=161

BTW, you first said your Maxima had 450HP, then later changed it to "I bet it's possible".

I have to disagree on there being a huge aftermarket for the VG30. I'd say it's probably among the lowest of any performance car available in the US. VG30DE is a different story.

You would put leaded gas in your car?

That Z31 isn't anywhere close to being the highest HP Z31 there. I was a member on Z31 since late 1997 or early 1998. There have been numerous members there with higher HP Z's. The most powerful would probably be Steve Mitchell, with more than 500 hp. I saw his car at Zcon last year. It's a silver and black Z31.
Yes but that was a JWT supplied, and modified/built VG33, far from a VG30 with add on parts. Ken's was a stock VG30 bottom end. And AFAWK, Thin Lizzy's VG30 block is stock.
 

KokomoGSTmp

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Originally posted by: exdeath
'03 Cobra + Kenne Bell + Bassani setup @ 700 RWHP on high octane. All mods total less than $10k. Very nice for not having to pull heads on a stock engine.

Haven't tracked it at all, but it's well known that other 03/04 Cobra's with this setup are in the 10s and 11s on street radials without NOS.

While I have no problems with your statement about Cobras putting down 700rwhp on race gas... I don't think it's really something possible without some more work other than blower and exhaust. If you look at the traps of Cobras running 10s and 11s, they're fairly low because of slicks or drag radials.

And from those traps, you're not looking at 700rwhp (that's mph of at least 140+) but rather ~600rwhp which is still a buttload. You also never mentioned the laundry list of supporting upgrades needed to get your Cobra up to 700whp. Show us a dyno sheet or datalog to prove that 850+bhp without pulling the head even for something as simple as cams. I have no trouble believing around 550whp though... but if you really are running over 600rwhp, I hope you're ready for an engine rebuild.

Even with all that being said, you probably still have the fastest car on here that is daily driven(?). What's the maximum gear limited speed of your Cobra?? hehehe...
 

exdeath

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Originally posted by: KokomoGSTmp
Originally posted by: exdeath
'03 Cobra + Kenne Bell + Bassani setup @ 700 RWHP on high octane. All mods total less than $10k. Very nice for not having to pull heads on a stock engine.

Haven't tracked it at all, but it's well known that other 03/04 Cobra's with this setup are in the 10s and 11s on street radials without NOS.

While I have no problems with your statement about Cobras putting down 700rwhp on race gas... I don't think it's really something possible without some more work other than blower and exhaust. If you look at the traps of Cobras running 10s and 11s, they're fairly low because of slicks or drag radials.

And from those traps, you're not looking at 700rwhp (that's mph of at least 140+) but rather ~600rwhp which is still a buttload. You also never mentioned the laundry list of supporting upgrades needed to get your Cobra up to 700whp. Show us a dyno sheet or datalog to prove that 850+bhp without pulling the head even for something as simple as cams. I have no trouble believing around 550whp though... but if you really are running over 600rwhp, I hope you're ready for an engine rebuild.

Even with all that being said, you probably still have the fastest car on here that is daily driven(?). What's the maximum gear limited speed of your Cobra?? hehehe...

Complete list of aftermarket parts:

Kenne Bell 2.4L blower @ ~20 PSI boost
KB Boost A Pump, KB Switch Chip
KB Cold Air intake w/ 12" conical filter, stock meter, and Kenne Bell "Big Oval" throttle body
KB Boost A Spark, Denso IT22 plugs
Siemens 55 lb. fuel injectors
Bassani headers, x pipe, and cat back exhaust (2.5")
Ram 900 clutch and pressure plate

An '03 with nothing more than a KB blower and cool air kit can break 600 HP at the wheels with stock throttle body, fuel, ignition, exhaust, tranny, etc. I haven't heard of anyone blowing up their stock Cobra to date with this setup, and some are pushing to the limit of the KB and running almost 30 psi boost and nearly 800 HP at the wheels with stock tranny and IRS! Not for a daily transport thank you.

Since this is my daily driver I try not to push it to hard, and with that kind of power, you don't have to push it very hard at all to waste your typical wanker. Not to mention gas costs. I still get close to the factory 16 mpg if I don't stand up on it...

Once I get an official dyno and diagnostics and know where my A/F and all that is, I'm going to take it out to the track, but until then it gets babied since I did most of the installs myself without the proper diagnostics along the way (just simple bolt on's and trust that the chip is correct...)

I haven't tried to top it out, I'm too much of a pvssy, not to mention there are alot of speed traps on the freeway here :(

EDIT: For the record, the 700 RWHP is only my estimate based on modifications and parts chosen based on the known performance of other cars with the same work done. I won't have a real number until I can find the time to drive it to CA to get an official tuning and log from Kenne Bell, but it's pretty safe to say it's in the ball park.
 

OffTopic1

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late 40s to early 70s
Citroen DS cabriolet
Desoto
Fiat 600
Mercedes Benz SC
Peugeot Type 202

Just kidding those were my dad cars and he destroyed his car collection (4 cars, including his beloved Benz & Desoto, and they all were in good running order/no rust, they also get at least once a month 3 km drive to keep the parts well lube) in Apr of 1975 to prevent the Communist from having it :(

His favorite boast was that the reliable/maneuverable Desoto saved my family from a near death accident while we were on our way to the summer home.

PS. I though that them cars were fast when I were young.
 

imported_Lucifer

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Originally posted by: Slickone
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: Slickone

I have a 300ZXT and used to hang out on z31.com. The highest HP Z31 that I ever saw on there is 450HP - http://z31.com/board/print_profile.php3?user_id=161

BTW, you first said your Maxima had 450HP, then later changed it to "I bet it's possible".

I have to disagree on there being a huge aftermarket for the VG30. I'd say it's probably among the lowest of any performance car available in the US. VG30DE is a different story.

You would put leaded gas in your car?

That Z31 isn't anywhere close to being the highest HP Z31 there. I was a member on Z31 since late 1997 or early 1998. There have been numerous members there with higher HP Z's. The most powerful would probably be Steve Mitchell, with more than 500 hp. I saw his car at Zcon last year. It's a silver and black Z31.
Yes but that was a JWT supplied, and modified/built VG33, far from a VG30 with add on parts. Ken's was a stock VG30 bottom end. And AFAWK, Thin Lizzy's VG30 block is stock.

I never said "I bet it's possible." I said it is possible and has been done. Refer to the links that I posted from maxima.org, those maximas make over 350hp-561hp. So i dont' know where u got "I bet it's possible."Why do i get these idiotic replies?Learn to read english. U said that the VG30de has alot of aftermarket right? Well just to educate u a little bit, Rods, pistons, and crank are all interchangeable w/ the VG30e. It's already been done.So that means (I'll give u a minute to comprehend that), that ALL AFTERMARKET BOTTOM END PARTS CAN BE PUT INTO A SOHC VG30. So JWT, ROSS, Wiseco, Arias, Eagle, Crower, and a few other companies i can't remember, all make pistons and rods for the VG30e and VG30de. Now lets go to the heads. Ferrea makes aftermarket Stainless steel valves in regular and 1mm oversize for the VG30e. JWT, Paeco, Schneider, Isky, Nismo, Motorsport Auto, and a few others i know i forgot to mention make cams for the VG30. So that's a pretty large aftermarket for the VG30, if i do say so myself. So i do have a few recommendations for u, First learn how to read before posting that i said "I Bet it's possible" and do a google search before saying there is no aftermarket support for the VG30. So now u know that it is possible, and that it has been done.
 

Slickone

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Originally posted by: Thin Lizzy
Originally posted by: Slickone
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: Slickone

I have a 300ZXT and used to hang out on z31.com. The highest HP Z31 that I ever saw on there is 450HP - http://z31.com/board/print_profile.php3?user_id=161

BTW, you first said your Maxima had 450HP, then later changed it to "I bet it's possible".

I have to disagree on there being a huge aftermarket for the VG30. I'd say it's probably among the lowest of any performance car available in the US. VG30DE is a different story.

You would put leaded gas in your car?

That Z31 isn't anywhere close to being the highest HP Z31 there. I was a member on Z31 since late 1997 or early 1998. There have been numerous members there with higher HP Z's. The most powerful would probably be Steve Mitchell, with more than 500 hp. I saw his car at Zcon last year. It's a silver and black Z31.
Yes but that was a JWT supplied, and modified/built VG33, far from a VG30 with add on parts. Ken's was a stock VG30 bottom end. And AFAWK, Thin Lizzy's VG30 block is stock.

I never said "I bet it's possible." I said it is possible and has been done. Refer to the links that I posted from maxima.org, those maximas make over 350hp-561hp. So i dont' know where u got "I bet it's possible."Why do i get these idiotic replies?Learn to read english. U said that the VG30de has alot of aftermarket right? Well just to educate u a little bit, Rods, pistons, and crank are all interchangeable w/ the VG30e. It's already been done.So that means (I'll give u a minute to comprehend that), that ALL AFTERMARKET BOTTOM END PARTS CAN BE PUT INTO A SOHC VG30. So JWT, ROSS, Wiseco, Arias, Eagle, Crower, and a few other companies i can't remember, all make pistons and rods for the VG30e and VG30de. Now lets go to the heads. Ferrea makes aftermarket Stainless steel valves in regular and 1mm oversize for the VG30e. JWT, Paeco, Schneider, Isky, Nismo, Motorsport Auto, and a few others i know i forgot to mention make cams for the VG30. So that's a pretty large aftermarket for the VG30, if i do say so myself. So i do have a few recommendations for u, First learn how to read before posting that i said "I Bet it's possible" and do a google search before saying there is no aftermarket support for the VG30. So now u know that it is possible, and that it has been done.
Woah, chill out there bud. "I best it's possible" was just my summary/interpretation of your later replies.
So you do admit that you first said...wait let me find your post...ah here it is, from page 3:
Not sure if I do have the fastest, but I turbocharged my 1993 Nissan Maxima about 3 months ago. Right now, it's at about 450 HP.

Now changed to (yes this time quoted for your pleasure):
I said it is possible and has been done.

You lose.


And I'm not talking about bottom end aftermarket parts. How many people go through the bottom end. A small percentage. I've owned a 300ZXT for 15 years. I know what's available.
 

exdeath

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How is the aftermarket for the Toyota 5SFE (2.2L 125HP)? Worth doing a turbo rebuild on this particular engine?

Basically the Cobra stuff was way too easy and consisted of mostly bolt ons, and I am becoming extremely interested in engine building. I have a '95 Camry 5 spd (factory stock, including the stereo!) doesn't get driven much unless I feel the destination would be to 'hostile' for the Cobra if you know what I mean.

After doing some quick research it seems as you can buy these engines on ebay and places for under a grand (500 to 750 for a complete running engine). I figure I could buy a second block and strip it down and rebuild for a 200 or 300 HP turbocharged engine from ground up, say like 8.5:1 compression with a forged bottom end, run about 15 lbs boost, etc.

Not really worth the power gains since I already have the Cobra, but I think it would be funny having a 300 HP Camry! This would be mostly for the experience on a cheap platform on a spare engine that I don't have to worry about blowing up. I also have access to various facilities such as an exhaust shop, machine shop, etc. through several friends and family members.

Basically, the Cobra was too easy to wring ~700 HP out of and all I am really looking for both experience and a challenge for a DIY side project.

Would the 5FSE be a platform worth playing with? There is also the 5SFE to 3S-GTE swap that seems pretty popular too.
 

Umberger

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Originally posted by: AMDZen
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: fs5
Originally posted by: Last Rezort
10.9

Wrx.
the stock edition not the Sti but ive got a few mods.
Intake bigger turbo, cams, headers, timing belt, lowered, potenza tires (very sticky!),blow off valve. cant remember anything else.
all i can say is its darn fast, i can take a 90 degree turn at like 75 without slowing

BS FLAG raised.

Seconded.

Thirded

In fact, I could prove your lying. I have a friend with an Evo and he's done quite a bit to it, and it wouldn't be anywhere close to that. I'll ask him what he does, and then we'll do the sea level conversion - but I know its not faster then 12.5 sea level and he's probably pushing 350+ to the wheels.

Fourthed.
 

Chode Messiah

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I'm gonna get my friend's dad's 1988 dodge colt wagonwith a hyperdrive and an anti matter reactor. Ur all pwned!!
 

StageLeft

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Couple of things:

Originally posted by: wbresson
fastest as in top speed ? I can do a tad under 200, say 195'ish, I've never been that fast but its a known fact in my car. I'm stock for now, don't want to void the 60k mile powertrain warrenty
Stop posting.

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I find it hard to believe that $10k alone will turn a cobra into a 700 rwhp vehicle. The tranny alone would surely explode. But i don't really know...

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Regarding maximas I believe the fastest is in the high 11's or something. not bad but nothing spectacular. I can't remember what was done to it, but maxima.org mentions it. Also the fastest NA was in the high 12s or something.
 

imported_Lucifer

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Not sure if I do have the fastest, but I turbocharged my 1993 Nissan Maxima about 3 months ago. Right now, it's at about 450 HP.

Now changed to (yes this time quoted for your pleasure):
I said it is possible and has been done.

You lose.


And I'm not talking about bottom end aftermarket parts. How many people go through the bottom end. A small percentage. I've owned a 300ZXT for 15 years. I know what's available.[/quote]


I said i wasn't sure if it was the fastest on the board. How is that me saying "I bet it's possible?" Hello dummy, when i said it is possible and has been done, i was referring to the other Maxima.org members and z31.com members who've achieved that goal years ago. Ur quoting two different post at different times, regarding different things. The first post was regarding me. Then an idiot says that 450hp is not possible with a maxima. So i replied. The next post u quoted was about the Other vehicles with VG30's that have achieved high hp #'s. Don't use different quotes regarding different things. Learn to read.
Where did it say "I Bet it's possible?" U said it was a summary, then why did u use quotes? When u use quotes, ur quoting someone. Then u say there is hardly any aftermarket for the VG30.

I have to disagree on there being a huge aftermarket for the VG30. I'd say it's probably among the lowest of any performance car available in the US. VG30DE is a different story.

That is a direct quote.

I listed many companies that produce parts for the top end and bottom end. Nismo even makes racing heads for the VG30, I forgot to mention that. I listed many companies that produce cams, valves, pistons, rods, and valve springs for the VG30. Take a reading comprehension class before u post. Ur just ridiculous. So once again, don't take different posts regarding different things and try to mix them around. I see that many other ppl in these forums agree, yet ur trying to mix things around and confuse urself. Just because u may have owned a z for 15 years doesn't mean u know s*** about the car. Right now, rick from z31.com is working on making a 9 sec z. Once again, do a google search!

You lose, STFU
 

Slickone

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Originally posted by: Thin Lizzy

[snipped junk]
Forget anything Nismo. I'm talking about other companies.

Here's another quote of yours:
The VG30e is the same engine that is in the 84-89 300zx turbo and non turbo.
You're wrong. Turbo models have the VG30ET engine.

You also stated the '86 300zx with a 6 second 1/4 mi time earlier, then admitted to guessing.

Oh, and "u", "ur", "ppl" aren't words.

 

Pacfanweb

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Couple of things:

Originally posted by: wbresson
fastest as in top speed ? I can do a tad under 200, say 195'ish, I've never been that fast but its a known fact in my car. I'm stock for now, don't want to void the 60k mile powertrain warrenty
Stop posting.

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I find it hard to believe that $10k alone will turn a cobra into a 700 rwhp vehicle. The tranny alone would surely explode. But i don't really know...
If Kenne Bells' ads are to be believed, it's certainly possible. I doubt this guys has 700 rwhp , YET. Mainly because he said he just bolted the stuff on and hasn't had it tuned at all.
That blower he has is supposed to put an otherwise stock Cobra up over 600rwhp.
Now that's tuned to the max by their own techs. It's not likely he'll be that proficient at tuning it, but he'll still have an assload of power. And that power is certainly attainable at the 10k figure he mentioned. The blower kit is around 4k.
 

imported_Lucifer

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Originally posted by: Slickone
Originally posted by: Thin Lizzy

[snipped junk]
Forget anything Nismo. I'm talking about other companies.

Here's another quote of yours:
The VG30e is the same engine that is in the 84-89 300zx turbo and non turbo.
You're wrong. Turbo models have the VG30ET engine.

You also stated the '86 300zx with a 6 second 1/4 mi time earlier, then admitted to guessing.

Oh, and "u", "ur", "ppl" aren't words.

I listed other companies. I didn't only say Nismo. If you happened to have read my other post on the previous page, you would have seen me list some companies.JWT, Paeco, Schnieder, ISKY, Motorsport Auto All make cams for the VG. Ferrea makes valves in standard and 1mm oversize for the VG. But u don't know how to read. Guess what the "T" stands for in VG30ET? It stands for turbo, so it makes sense that the turbo model ends with a T. So that means ALL PARTS are interchangeable between the 2 blocks, it's the same block, same head, just different compression pistons.

Oh, and "u", "ur", "ppl" aren't words.

duuude, yuo aer sarmt. tahnks for teh vocblry leson. i lerned a lot form yuo. i thnk my momy wilil be prod of me.

I'm sorry ur too slow to comprehend what they mean, obviously no one else has a problem understanding.

So, now just STFU

Everytime u try to say something, I shut ur a** down. So u try to find something new to talk sh*t about, and u get shut down again. I'm not trying to argue, but u get all butthurt when u get shutdown so u have to try to find other quotes, previous statements, and even talk about my terminology to try to get back at me for shutting ur a** down.