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cmdrdredd

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Originally posted by: SniperDaws
Originally posted by: Azn
Originally posted by: SniperDaws
Originally posted by: Nurn
Hardwarecanucks review overclocked the 3870 and it beat the 8800GT.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com...preview.html#post26213

it beat a standard clocked GT but you can overclock a GT, the card isnt worth the money, Scan are selling it in the UK for £153 but it would be worth the extra £23 to get the 8800GT at £176.

The only people that will buy these cards are the same people that bought the 2900XT, ill leave it to your imagination to work out why.


Me ill be buying the 8800GT if only i could find somone in the UK with stock.......Grrrrrrrr.

Yup people who are conscious about how much money they spend. That would be oh 98% of the world population.

Correct which is why people dont want to spend £150 on a card that wont get the job done, just because its cheap doesnt make it good value, for the extra £20 your getting much faster card in the 8800GT and this is before overclocking it, if the ATI card performed at least on par with the 8800GT then id buy 1 but as its crap its a waste of money. if i wanted a cheap card with that performance id buy a 1900XT because its no slower than the 3870.

*yawn* you again? X1900 same as 3870? ROFL...seriously...where?
 

MTDEW

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Ya know, if everyone would just go out and buy 13inch monitors we wouldnt have these performance problems...LOL ;)
 

swtethan

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Originally posted by: bryanW1995
Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
Originally posted by: nullpointerus
Originally posted by: Pythias
Oh my GAWD! Cheap, powerful graphics cards! The HORROR!

Amen to that!

What's next, cheap quad-core processors?!

Thats already happened though. :p
no, he means CHEAP, as in sub $300...uh, never mind...

Those dont overclock very well.
 

AzN

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Originally posted by: SniperDaws
Originally posted by: Azn
Originally posted by: SniperDaws
Originally posted by: Nurn
Hardwarecanucks review overclocked the 3870 and it beat the 8800GT.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com...preview.html#post26213

it beat a standard clocked GT but you can overclock a GT, the card isnt worth the money, Scan are selling it in the UK for £153 but it would be worth the extra £23 to get the 8800GT at £176.

The only people that will buy these cards are the same people that bought the 2900XT, ill leave it to your imagination to work out why.


Me ill be buying the 8800GT if only i could find somone in the UK with stock.......Grrrrrrrr.

Yup people who are conscious about how much money they spend. That would be oh 98% of the world population.

Correct which is why people dont want to spend £150 on a card that wont get the job done, just because its cheap doesnt make it good value, for the extra £20 your getting much faster card in the 8800GT and this is before overclocking it, if the ATI card performed at least on par with the 8800GT then id buy 1 but as its crap its a waste of money. if i wanted a cheap card with that performance id buy a 1900XT because its no slower than the 3870.

Doesn't get the job done? A 3850 would get the job done heck even my 8600gts still gets the job done at max settings although it's starting to show some slow downs on my native screen resolution with titles that aren't optimized like crysis. I don't need to play 1920x1200 resolution. Actually majority of people here don't have a 24"+ screens I bet.

1900xt no slower than 3870? You must be smoking some good stuff. :eek:
 

bryanW1995

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actually, I believe that he's smoking the "bad" stuff.

I can't wait for my 3870 to arrive so I can go from my x1950xt at 21.3 fps in crysis 1440x900 at all med with no aa/af to all high with 2xaa/af and...21.3 fps...

edit: hmmmm, I wonder what I'll get with this 6600gt placeholder gpu...it does have an aftermarket hsf...maybe I can oc it a little bit...I should try THAT, then maybe I'll feel a bit better...wait, this is a GT, right? RIGHT??? omfg!!!
 

imported_Shaq

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Does anyone know if you can raise the voltage on these through software? If you could get the 3870 close to 1000 core it would be a good deal. Since it has a dual slot cooler already it should be doable.
 

AzN

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Originally posted by: bryanW1995
actually, I believe that he's smoking the "bad" stuff.

I can't wait for my 3870 to arrive so I can go from my x1950xt at 21.3 fps in crysis 1440x900 at all med with no aa/af to all high with 2xaa/af and...21.3 fps...

edit: hmmmm, I wonder what I'll get with this 6600gt placeholder gpu...it does have an aftermarket hsf...maybe I can oc it a little bit...I should try THAT, then maybe I'll feel a bit better...wait, this is a GT, right? RIGHT??? omfg!!!

You were getting that low fps with your 1950xt? I didn't know that. My 8600gts runs it mid 20's with AF everything on medium same resolution. I would have expected 1950xt would be whole lot faster.
 

bryanW1995

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it's only 256mb. the other geeks used to laugh at me when I posted my 3dmark06 scores, too :(
 

imported_Shaq

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I have a vmod on the 8800GT. I had it up to 830/2000/2000 but it needed 1.335 volts. It was still only 65C load though.
 

trajan2050

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AzN

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Originally posted by: TC91
yah holy crap that is an insane oc on the card shaq.

I don't think it would all that much overclocking the core on 8800gt since 8800gt texture tmu is near gtx levels at default clock speed. Then again you is overclocking the SP clocks when he raise the core.
 

SniperDaws

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Originally posted by: bryanW1995
actually, I believe that he's smoking the "bad" stuff.

I can't wait for my 3870 to arrive so I can go from my x1950xt at 21.3 fps in crysis 1440x900 at all med with no aa/af to all high with 2xaa/af and...21.3 fps...

edit: hmmmm, I wonder what I'll get with this 6600gt placeholder gpu...it does have an aftermarket hsf...maybe I can oc it a little bit...I should try THAT, then maybe I'll feel a bit better...wait, this is a GT, right? RIGHT??? omfg!!!


Well there we have it, Bryan you are easily pleased if you think thats an upgrade.
 

taltamir

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Originally posted by: Nurn
Hardwarecanucks review overclocked the 3870 and it beat the 8800GT.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com...preview.html#post26213

And I have heard of a guy who used hardware modifications and liquid nitrogen cooling to overclock a 386 processor to 2.5Ghz.... and then his computer caught on fire. (well, months later due to a hitch in the cooling system).

What is your point? overclock anything enough and it will outperform the competition... and keep in mind that the GT can ALSO be overclocked beyond stock speeds.
 

BFG10K

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From a high-end point of view it sucks. From a mid-range point of view it's quite good.
 

SniperDaws

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Originally posted by: BFG10K
From a high-end point of view it sucks. From a mid-range point of view it's quite good.

If the 8800GT didnt exist there would be no question about it, but because the 8800GT does exist then id say the ATI cards are overpriced in comparison simply because the ATI HD 3850/70's now make the 8800GT look like a highend card with a mid-range price and because of that ATI cannot compete.


Do you know what ive had a rethink, i might just get a cheap 3870 now and do a major upgrade next year.

hopfully the 8900GT/GTS or 9800GT/GTS will be out and be a huge improvment over the current 8800 series.

i still think you're a baby though Bryan.......lol J/k


Nope ive changed my mind again, ive just looked at loads of reviews and its shit, so ill be getting the 8800GT again and bide-ing my time i think.
 

nullpointerus

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Originally posted by: swtethan
Originally posted by: bryanW1995
Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
Originally posted by: nullpointerus
Originally posted by: Pythias
Oh my GAWD! Cheap, powerful graphics cards! The HORROR!

Amen to that!

What's next, cheap quad-core processors?!

Thats already happened though. :p
no, he means CHEAP, as in sub $300...uh, never mind...

Those dont overclock very well.

It's no use, bryanW1995: the joke must die.

:)
 

bryanW1995

Lifer
May 22, 2007
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Originally posted by: SniperDaws
Originally posted by: bryanW1995
actually, I believe that he's smoking the "bad" stuff.

I can't wait for my 3870 to arrive so I can go from my x1950xt at 21.3 fps in crysis 1440x900 at all med with no aa/af to all high with 2xaa/af and...21.3 fps...

edit: hmmmm, I wonder what I'll get with this 6600gt placeholder gpu...it does have an aftermarket hsf...maybe I can oc it a little bit...I should try THAT, then maybe I'll feel a bit better...wait, this is a GT, right? RIGHT??? omfg!!!


Well there we have it, Bryan you are easily pleased if you think thats an upgrade.
I was using sarcasm when I said that, I actually have no idea what a 3870 will do in crysis with my system. allow me to help you understand what sarcasm is:

Main Entry: sar·casm
Pronunciation: \'sär-?ka-z?m\
Function: noun
Etymology: French or Late Latin; French sarcasme, from Late Latin sarcasmos, from Greek sarkasmos, from sarkazein to tear flesh, bite the lips in rage, sneer, from sark-, sarx flesh; probably akin to Avestan thwar?s- to cut
Date: 1550
1: a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain
2 a: a mode of satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language that is usually directed against an individual b: the use or language of sarcasm

Personal attacks are not necessary. Maybe you should go back to the WWE forums and engage in that sort of thing over there. BTW, is that where you found out that 1900xt is faster than 2900xt in EVERYTHING?

 

SniperDaws

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Originally posted by: bryanW1995
Originally posted by: SniperDaws
Originally posted by: bryanW1995
actually, I believe that he's smoking the "bad" stuff.

I can't wait for my 3870 to arrive so I can go from my x1950xt at 21.3 fps in crysis 1440x900 at all med with no aa/af to all high with 2xaa/af and...21.3 fps...

edit: hmmmm, I wonder what I'll get with this 6600gt placeholder gpu...it does have an aftermarket hsf...maybe I can oc it a little bit...I should try THAT, then maybe I'll feel a bit better...wait, this is a GT, right? RIGHT??? omfg!!!


Well there we have it, Bryan you are easily pleased if you think thats an upgrade.
I was using sarcasm when I said that, I actually have no idea what a 3870 will do in crysis with my system. allow me to help you understand what sarcasm is:

Main Entry: sar·casm
Pronunciation: \'sär-?ka-z?m\
Function: noun
Etymology: French or Late Latin; French sarcasme, from Late Latin sarcasmos, from Greek sarkasmos, from sarkazein to tear flesh, bite the lips in rage, sneer, from sark-, sarx flesh; probably akin to Avestan thwar?s- to cut
Date: 1550
1: a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain
2 a: a mode of satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language that is usually directed against an individual b: the use or language of sarcasm

Personal attacks are not necessary. Maybe you should go back to the WWE forums and engage in that sort of thing over there. BTW, is that where you found out that 1900xt is faster than 2900xt in EVERYTHING?

Let me help you understand what joke means-

joke:

A noun
1 antic, joke, prank, trick, caper, put-on

a ludicrous or grotesque act done for fun and amusement
Category Tree:
act; human action; human activity
+activity
+diversion; recreation
+antic, joke, prank, trick, caper, put-on
+practical joke
+dirty trick
2 jest, joke, jocularity

activity characterized by good humor
Category Tree:
act; human action; human activity
+activity
+diversion; recreation
+jest, joke, jocularity
+pleasantry
+leg-pull; leg-pulling
+drollery; waggery
3 joke

a triviality not to be taken seriously;


I even added J/K so you would know i was joking, i didnt realise you were slow aswell as a baby.......JOKE!


LOL


Adding the word "JOKE" to the end of an insult, does not erase the insult. End it now or your postless for a week. And edit this post as well.

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