Who doesn't like Godfather 1 and 2?

[StinkyPinky]

I liked Goodfella's more.

 

[squarecut1]

Godfather is the answer to everything. It's 42. Every character in the film portays a certain type of person: There those who are strong, those who are weak, those you can trust and those you cant. By watching, studying and understanding the way the characters interact you can apply what you learn to real life. You can label certain people in real life as Tom Hagen the trustworthy, Michael the wise, Fredo the idiot who eventually WILL backstab you, Connie the willing victim, Sonny the angry and unpredictable, Hyman Roth the untrustworthy businessman with potential to either make you rich or ruin you... etc etc etc.

Thats my take on it. I want to be a Michael or a Tom, but if I am honest with myself then I know I am a Fredo, and I now try everything I can to NOT be a Fredo.

Good analysis. But Michael paid a heavy price for all that he achieved. All the people he lost, alienated, all that he did. How it changed him, how it destroyed his innocence. The final scene of Godfather 2 where he is sitting by himself, reminiscing, contemplating, is arguably the best ending scene of any Hollywood movie. It resonates with a very basic human condition, the sense of loss we feel....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-I4VIR5yGg

 

[MongGrel]

I can see why people would complain about the pace of the Godfather films; they're from a different era, and they are a lot slower than modern films. That doesn't stop me from forming an opinion about the mental acuity of someone who is unable to stay invested in a story if things aren't exploding every 12 seconds. But that's fine. Some people like chess, some people like checkers; people who don't like the Godfather like that game where someone jingles keys in front of their face.

Is part of the reason Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy went over so badly.

I actually enjoyed it and still rewatch now and then.

 

[02ranger]

Try Tyler Perry movies then.

Please, even I'm smarter than that! Even to those without two brain cells to rub together those movies are dumb. :biggrin:

 

[WaTaGuMp]

Please, even I'm smarter than that! Even to those without two brain cells to rub together those movies are dumb. :biggrin:

But yet he continues to make movies and make money, what does that say? :hmm:

 

[Kyle]

Is part of the reason Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy went over so badly.

I actually enjoyed it and still rewatch now and then.

I need to watch that one again...I actually own it, but only time I watched it I was a few beers in and had no idea what the fuck was going on.

 

[MongGrel]

I need to watch that one again...I actually own it, but only time I watched it I was a few beers in and had no idea what the fuck was going on.

It's something you have to be patient and get into.

 

[squarecut1]

I so love the opening scene, where the Godfather (Brando) complains to the guy asking a favor from him that he did not come to him in "friendship" Beautiful beautiful scene, one only Brando can do in the manner he did. You have to read the book to get a greater understanding of the Godfather character....but what two movies....I don't know how many times I have seen them. Every little bit of them is just so carefully thought out, so polished, so stylish.

The opening scene.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPTAjNVvrYg

 

[pontifex]

never watched them, so cant say

 

[BudAshes]

But yet he continues to make movies and make money, what does that say? :hmm:

That if you have no talent go into the child entertainment business.

 

[Mai72]

Good analysis. But Michael paid a heavy price for all that he achieved. All the people he lost, alienated, all that he did. How it changed him, how it destroyed his innocence. The final scene of Godfather 2 where he is sitting by himself, reminiscing, contemplating, is arguably the best ending scene of any Hollywood movie. It resonates with a very basic human condition, the sense of loss we feel....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-I4VIR5yGg

The ending to Godfather II really moved me. Michael gained fortune and respect but lost his innocence. He was also lonely. He lost his family. His father, Fredo, Tessio, and Sonny were dead. His wife left him. Tom distrusted him.

 

[Mai72]

I also loved Scarface. It doesn't hold up well when compared to The Godfather. It was still a good gangster film.

 

[rh71]

Never seen any of them, don't like mob movies. Or outlandish comedies dealing with drinking or smoking up like The Hangover. Come to think of it, never seen any Star Wars or Star Trek movies either. Generally speaking, I do watch sci-fi though, just not the ones where people dress up funny.

 

[squarecut1]

The ending to Godfather II really moved me. Michael gained fortune and respect but lost his innocence. He was also lonely. He lost his family. His father, Fredo, Tessio, and Sonny were dead. His wife left him. Tom distrusted him.

Which is the fate of so many in the modern world. That is what good art does. Asks us questions. Hold a mirror to us

 

[FuzzyDunlop]

Good analysis. But Michael paid a heavy price for all that he achieved. All the people he lost, alienated, all that he did. How it changed him, how it destroyed his innocence. The final scene of Godfather 2 where he is sitting by himself, reminiscing, contemplating, is arguably the best ending scene of any Hollywood movie. It resonates with a very basic human condition, the sense of loss we feel....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-I4VIR5yGg

Thats my very basic analysis, but along the lines of what I thought of the films. If you can put yourself or others into the role of a person in the Godfather you can often then predict their behavior.

and that scene,uhh, so strong. It TOTALLY shows each character in their exact role - even michael. Michael is a character who always needs to be right. He wont accept people contradicting him. In his mind he is correct and there is no changing that. He also had too strong of a thirst for vengeance, which was really ignited when his first wife was accidentally assassinated. This thirst to prove himself correct is what alienates him from everyone around him because it consumes him. I could go on and on, but unnecessary.

Those long 45+ second shots are great.

This site is great BTW
http://godfather.wikia.com/wiki/The_Godfather_Wiki

 

[angminas]

I've seen them a number of times, starting about 30 years ago. Good, but nowhere near the top of the list anymore. The state of the art has advanced too much, and the films just plain look old, making it harder to take the inexorable trust-me-this-is-important style seriously, especially after Shawshank, which did it so much better.

Goodfellas is just another of your typical mob movie.

Uh, no.

 

[MetalMat]

They are good movies but I think people have them a little too high on the pedestal. It's great acting and all but I find the movies just move a little too slow for my liking.

 

[TheVrolok]

it insists upon itself

LOL, came to post this. I agree, though, I enjoyed the movies. I'll watch them both every few years, but I certainly don't see the appeal that others do. I think it's the genre through, mobster movies do very little for me.

Just for a laugh http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4wMQz3iJDzE

 

[motsm]

I enjoy the entire trilogy. It seems like most people treat the third movie like it's The Phantom Menace, when it's still a very good movie, it just doesn't match the standard of the first two.

That said, there's a number of other crime dramas I find myself re watching a lot more. Goodfellas and Casino as others have mentioned, American Gangster, and maybe even Road to Perdition and Heat.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Never seen them. They may be incredible movies, but I have less than zero interest in anything mafia related (or westerns) and that has prevented me from watching them.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Never seen them. They may be incredible movies, but I have less than zero interest in anything mafia related (or westerns) and that has prevented me from watching them.

I used to think the same thing (about Westerns anyway; I've always liked mob movies). But then I watched The Good, The Bad and The Ugly and I was like, "OK, that was a good movie; I still don't like Westerns, but I'll grant that one was pretty good." And then I watched Unforgiven. And I was like, "I really don't like Westerns, but that was pretty good. There are exactly two good Westerns and all the rest are crap." And then I saw things like A Fistful of Dollars, and For a Few Dollars More, and Butch Cassidy, and Tombstone, and True Grit, and Deadwood, and Red Dead Redemption, and I realized, "shit, I think I actually like Westerns." I still don't actively seek them out, mind you, but I also don't dismiss them based solely on genre; good is good, regardless of subject matter.

 

[iwajabitw]

Have trilogy on DVD, need to pick them up on Blu-ray..Classic

 

[BurnItDwn]

Godfather and Godfather 2 are excellent. I think some people do not like them because of the (deliberate) slow pacing of the story. 3 is crap indeed.

 

[zinfamous]

Can you believe I have never seen the movies? LOL I only watched part of Casino and I did see Goodfellas.

Oh, I can believe this.

 

[zinfamous]

And the first is better than the second.

nope

Anyone who says otherwise just doesn't know.

Oh, I know

Just like Alien is better than Aliens.

yep.

...but it's not "just like." there is no sensible way to compare the vast differences between Alien and Aliens, and the very subtle differences between Godfather 1/2. Your comparison here makes zero sense.