Who do you think makes the best FPS gaming engine overall?

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Originally posted by: Pentium
Originally posted by: KnightBreed
Originally posted by: Pentium
Yeah ID software makes the best engines, no doubt.

Do you guys think Carmacks next gen engine will beat unreal engine 3 (for those of you who have seen the UE3 demo?)
Certainly not. The Doom3 engine is going to be released this year. Epic's UE3.0 isn't destined for release in any games until 2006.
I mean the engine after doom 3, sorry for being unclear.
No, I just re-read your original post and it was perfectly clear. I just read it quickly and didn't grasp what what you were asking.:) Given the development time ID has taken with Doom3, I wouldn't expect a true next generation engine from Carmack until 2007 at the earliest, so I fully expect it to offer more features and higher image quality than UE3.0.
 

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Ok so id generally is viewed as the best engine maker.


Now, which game do you think has better graphics quality

Half life 2, Doom3 or STALKER?
 

Regs

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You are discussing games that are not out yet. Valve wouldn't be anything if it wasn't for counter strike.

No one has even played a HL2 playable demo. Not to mention the 12+ month long delay witch doesn't offer much faith in Valve putting a game together. ID has the experience on all of them. Crytek did an amazing job with Far Cry even though the game wasn't really meant for online multi player action.
 

Viper GTS

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If you're just looking at engines, that is undoubtedly id.

More specifically, John Carmack.

Carmack is God when it comes to game engines.

Viper GTS
 

DeRusto

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Originally posted by: Regs
You are discussing games that are not out yet. Valve wouldn't be anything if it wasn't for counter strike.

No one has even played a HL2 playable demo. Not to mention the 12+ month long delay witch doesn't offer much faith in Valve putting a game together. ID has the experience on all of them. Crytek did an amazing job with Far Cry even though the game wasn't really meant for online multi player action.

plenty of people have a playable copy of the HL2 engine...
 

FreshCrabLegs

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-Obviously...
--Hands down...
---Without a doubt...

The best 3d Gaming Engine is:
The Unreal Warfare Engine (Epic)
 

Lyfer

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You didn't even put EA there. THe refactor engine used in BF1942 and BF:Vietnam. Theres a reason why BF:Vietnam is the top selling game right now.
 

sparkyclarky

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Originally posted by: Lyfer
You didn't even put EA there. THe refactor engine used in BF1942 and BF:Vietnam. Theres a reason why BF:Vietnam is the top selling game right now.


Yeah - the gameplay/Battlefield name. By your logic, based on sheer looks Far Cry should be the top selling game right now, because it spanks BF:V in the graphics dept. The Battlefield engines aren't particularly bad at what they do (large, open environments), but as far as overall engine polish goes, ID wins.
 

bandana163

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ID makes the best engines, IMO. Croteam, People can fly and Crytek have some pretty good programmers as well.
 

sparkyclarky

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Originally posted by: PCMarcelino
Somewhat of a thread-jack, but...

Can the Quake/iD Engine be used for a MMORPG?


I don't see why not. But, the question is, why would you want to? There has to be engines out there that are better suited towards that type of game than an engine designed with first person shooters in mind.
 

FreshCrabLegs

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Originally posted by: sparkyclarky
I don't see why not. But, the question is, why would you want to?
I agree. I was just surprised at how well the Unreal Warfare Engine was used to create LineageII. A few posts above mine were talking about 'scalability' and figured you can't get more diametric than a FPS v. a MMORPG.
 

Allio

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ID are the only ones who actually have decent physics engines in their games. They invented bunnyhopping. Nobody else even comes close :p




Graphics? Who cares about graphics?
 

yhelothar

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Uhh... why does everyone say id makes the "best looking engine"
Their last engine was the quake3 engine. Sure it was an AWESOME engine, especially for it's time, but to say it's better than crytek's is insane.
NO graphics engine comes close to Farcry today, I'm surprised crytek got the least votes, especially with less votes than valve, that hasn't even created a grphics engine!