WhiteHouse wants you to snitch....

[shiner]

Originally posted by: blackangst1
Wow. I wonder what the wing nuts on the left would be saying if GWB put out a memo to email in if you hear of someone spreading disinformation about the WOT...

Answer: they'd go APESHIT.

You keep forgetting that it's ok for the Obama Admin to do this because they care about us and want us to be happy.

 

[Fear No Evil]

Originally posted by: Thump553
This is big time hardball politics. It is being reported that the insurance companies and other special interests fighting this bill are spending more money per day than Bush and Kerry spent, COMBINED, in the 2004 election. Town hall meetings across the country are being swamped outside fanatics whose purpose is to spread lies, disrupt and shout down all others.

The White House-and other proponents of fixing the system-MUST expose the anti-democratic tactics used by the opponents to this reform.

It is a huge step-but one easily made by most of the paranoids posting here-that by collecting information on opponents and their tactics that the White House is doing anything wrong. Has anyone produced a scintilla of evidence yet to support that conclusion-or a scintilla of evidence that the White House is doing anything illegal?

I'm thrilled that the White House is finally standing up to these special interests and is more concerned about fixing our dysfunctional health care system. Others can worry about the financial future of for-profit insurers, that is a far less important priority to me.

Spending money on a cause you support and going to town hall meetings to express your opinions are now anti-democratic? Yikes. Some of the posters here might be sub-human traitors then..

 

[Darwin333]

Originally posted by: Thump553
This is big time hardball politics. It is being reported that the insurance companies and other special interests fighting this bill are spending more money per day than Bush and Kerry spent, COMBINED, in the 2004 election. Town hall meetings across the country are being swamped outside fanatics whose purpose is to spread lies, disrupt and shout down all others.

The White House-and other proponents of fixing the system-MUST expose the anti-democratic tactics used by the opponents to this reform.

It is a huge step-but one easily made by most of the paranoids posting here-that by collecting information on opponents and their tactics that the White House is doing anything wrong. Has anyone produced a scintilla of evidence yet to support that conclusion-or a scintilla of evidence that the White House is doing anything illegal?

I'm thrilled that the White House is finally standing up to these special interests and is more concerned about fixing our dysfunctional health care system. Others can worry about the financial future of for-profit insurers, that is a far less important priority to me.

While I agree with your sentiment, you are claiming that these tactics are anti-democratic because they hinder debate. My question would then be, which side is more "anti-democratic"? If it was up to the executive branch the bill would have been rammed through before debate could even take place as has been done with previous legislation. How can you debate a bill if even the Congress isn't given the opportunity to read it before voting on it?

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: bob4432
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog...s-Are-Stubborn-Things/

There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can?t keep track of all of them here at the White House, we?re asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to flag@whitehouse.gov.

another mis-leading title....saad

 

[SammyJr]

Originally posted by: blackangst1
Wow. I wonder what the wing nuts on the left would be saying if GWB put out a memo to email in if you hear of someone spreading disinformation about the WOT...

Answer: they'd go APESHIT.

Disinformation about a another disinformation campaign? Interesting...

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
dude I remember watching that video during the election so what? and he is clearly changing his position if single payer ISNT on the table. You don't really matter in this debate because your mind is made up. You are just noise in the system.

Much like you. There are two types of people in the debate. Those that see the lies and thoughs that refuse to accept them. You are the latter type.

 

[SammyJr]

Originally posted by: quest55720

Originally posted by: eskimospy
Jesus people, the White House is not asking for the emails to be forwarded so they can pick you up with their Nazi stormtroopers, it is a political thing where they want to know what is being sent around so they can prepare a message to refute it.

Sure and if Bush and Rove did the same thing you would be on board right? This administration is gathering an enemies list and you are right on board.

Its a marketing thing, genius. You don't think that Gigabyte and Dell and all them don't monitor message boards for information on how their product is being received? Same thing with politicians....

 

[lupi]

Originally posted by: Craig234
The medical insurance industry has a massive budget for lying to the American peple to shift the public opinion its way, and has doen so or decades.

Where's the budget for the public interest on the other side? There isn't much of one.

So, to try to battle the propaganda, asking for the public to alert it to the PR activities of the well-funded propagandists is wrong how?

The medical insurance industry has reportedly hired *350 former Congressional members and staffers* for this battle to protect its gouging of the public.

And we have people here who are fighting hard for them to do just that.

Aren't you supposed to respond in the venezuela thread before posting elsewhere again.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: spidey07
Freedom of speech, unless you agree with us.

It's so refreshing to see America wake up to what this bastard is doing and fighting back. The DNC even sent out a press memo about how those speaking out against congress in town hall meetings are some funded organization that should be stopped.

Fuck you. This is the people fighting against you. This is OUR COUNTRY, we own it, you work for us. Fuck you obama.

-edit-
Email sent.

Mr. President,

Although your misinformation campaign is in full swing we will stop you. Your lies are seen and the people no longer trust you. I wish to flag your propaganda and flat out lies so that the truth can be known. Your motives are understood and we don't want it. Give me Liberty, freedom and choice with my healthcare. Respond to me when you've read the bill because otherwise you are flat out wrong and the people will not put up with your lies any longer.

you're turning into a nutjob

Originally posted by: LumbergTech
maybe the intent is to give them an idea of what they need to argue against publically.......not to "report" people for speaking untruths

hey look, a sane post

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: blackangst1
Wow. I wonder what the wing nuts on the left would be saying if GWB put out a memo to email in if you hear of someone spreading disinformation about the WOT...

Answer: they'd go APESHIT.

they just used the fbi and nsa

 

[SammyJr]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: Thump553
This is big time hardball politics. It is being reported that the insurance companies and other special interests fighting this bill are spending more money per day than Bush and Kerry spent, COMBINED, in the 2004 election. Town hall meetings across the country are being swamped outside fanatics whose purpose is to spread lies, disrupt and shout down all others.

The White House-and other proponents of fixing the system-MUST expose the anti-democratic tactics used by the opponents to this reform.

It is a huge step-but one easily made by most of the paranoids posting here-that by collecting information on opponents and their tactics that the White House is doing anything wrong. Has anyone produced a scintilla of evidence yet to support that conclusion-or a scintilla of evidence that the White House is doing anything illegal?

I'm thrilled that the White House is finally standing up to these special interests and is more concerned about fixing our dysfunctional health care system. Others can worry about the financial future of for-profit insurers, that is a far less important priority to me.

Spending money on a cause you support and going to town hall meetings to express your paid opinions are now anti-democratic? Yikes. Some of the posters here might be sub-human traitors then..

Yes, being a corporate shill in an attempt to change policy is anti-democratic.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: SammyJr

Originally posted by: spidey07
It's so refreshing to see America wake up to what this bastard is doing and fighting back. The DNC even sent out a press memo about how those speaking out against congress in town hall meetings are some funded organization that should be stopped.

Uh, well, yeah they are. Funded by the RNC and the health insurance lobby. Ever heard of astroturf? I'm sure there's a few people in there who are independent, but they get their information from the same sources.

Mr. President,

Although your misinformation campaign is in full swing we will stop you. Your lies are seen and the people no longer trust you. I wish to flag your propaganda and flat out lies so that the truth can be known. Your motives are understood and we don't want it. Give me Liberty, freedom and choice with my healthcare. Respond to me when you've read the bill because otherwise you are flat out wrong and the people will not put up with your lies any longer.

What misinformation campaign? Are you upset that Obama hasn't read those cherry picked and out of context email forwards?

The real misinformation is coming from the astroturf on the Republican side... dead Grandmas and all that.

Am I funded by the RNC? Do I get money? No. Do any of my friends and cowokers who feel exactly the way I do about this legislation get paid or organized by a 3rd party? No.

This is the people speaking out against the supposed representatives and obamas push. We don't want it. It's not some conspiracy or organized effort, people don't want this crap and I'm very happy they are speaking out.

 

[SammyJr]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: SammyJr

Originally posted by: spidey07
It's so refreshing to see America wake up to what this bastard is doing and fighting back. The DNC even sent out a press memo about how those speaking out against congress in town hall meetings are some funded organization that should be stopped.

Uh, well, yeah they are. Funded by the RNC and the health insurance lobby. Ever heard of astroturf? I'm sure there's a few people in there who are independent, but they get their information from the same sources.

Mr. President,

Although your misinformation campaign is in full swing we will stop you. Your lies are seen and the people no longer trust you. I wish to flag your propaganda and flat out lies so that the truth can be known. Your motives are understood and we don't want it. Give me Liberty, freedom and choice with my healthcare. Respond to me when you've read the bill because otherwise you are flat out wrong and the people will not put up with your lies any longer.

What misinformation campaign? Are you upset that Obama hasn't read those cherry picked and out of context email forwards?

The real misinformation is coming from the astroturf on the Republican side... dead Grandmas and all that.

Am I funded by the RNC? Do I get money? No. Do any of my friends and cowokers who feel exactly the way I do about this legislation get paid or organized by a 3rd party? No.

This is the people speaking out against the supposed representatives and obamas push. We don't want it. It's not some conspiracy or organized effort, people don't want this crap and I'm very happy they are speaking out.

And where do you get your information? Glenn Beck? Rush? Hannity? FoxNews.com? Townhall.com? Drudge?

Seriously, ask them to cut you guys a check.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: SammyJr

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: SammyJr

Originally posted by: spidey07
It's so refreshing to see America wake up to what this bastard is doing and fighting back. The DNC even sent out a press memo about how those speaking out against congress in town hall meetings are some funded organization that should be stopped.

Uh, well, yeah they are. Funded by the RNC and the health insurance lobby. Ever heard of astroturf? I'm sure there's a few people in there who are independent, but they get their information from the same sources.

Mr. President,

Although your misinformation campaign is in full swing we will stop you. Your lies are seen and the people no longer trust you. I wish to flag your propaganda and flat out lies so that the truth can be known. Your motives are understood and we don't want it. Give me Liberty, freedom and choice with my healthcare. Respond to me when you've read the bill because otherwise you are flat out wrong and the people will not put up with your lies any longer.

What misinformation campaign? Are you upset that Obama hasn't read those cherry picked and out of context email forwards?

The real misinformation is coming from the astroturf on the Republican side... dead Grandmas and all that.

Am I funded by the RNC? Do I get money? No. Do any of my friends and cowokers who feel exactly the way I do about this legislation get paid or organized by a 3rd party? No.

This is the people speaking out against the supposed representatives and obamas push. We don't want it. It's not some conspiracy or organized effort, people don't want this crap and I'm very happy they are speaking out.

And where do you get your information? Glenn Beck? Rush? Hannity? FoxNews.com? Townhall.com? Drudge?

Seriously, ask them to cut you guys a check.

Who the hell is this glenn beck guy you keep associating me with? I've honestly never heard of him.

Are you so scared of Americans standing up and speaking out against what could be the most impactful legislation on every citizen and really effect everybody on a personal level? Or are we just supposed to shut up and be reported?

this is our country, we own it

 

[ccbadd]

Originally posted by: Craig234
The medical insurance industry has a massive budget for lying to the American peple to shift the public opinion its way, and has doen so or decades.

Where's the budget for the public interest on the other side? There isn't much of one.

So, to try to battle the propaganda, asking for the public to alert it to the PR activities of the well-funded propagandists is wrong how?

The medical insurance industry has reportedly hired *350 former Congressional members and staffers* for this battle to protect its gouging of the public.

And we have people here who are fighting hard for them to do just that.

This has to be one of your dumber posts that I have read. For one, the medical industry needs a budget to buy adds and what not, but the idiots in DC are on the tube everyday for free. Now, if you bothered to listen to most of the people that are upset you would find that they are not against health care reform. Most reasonable people would look at several possible solutions and then pick the best one. In reality, the best solution is most likely adding some additional over site and regulation to the industry and deal with illegals weighing the system down. As far as the waste in administration costs, fund a new system for all the insurance companies to use and standardize that part so we can have control of it, it's just paperwork. Only a jackass tears a house down to fix the foundation.

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: ccbadd

Originally posted by: Craig234
The medical insurance industry has a massive budget for lying to the American peple to shift the public opinion its way, and has doen so or decades.

Where's the budget for the public interest on the other side? There isn't much of one.

So, to try to battle the propaganda, asking for the public to alert it to the PR activities of the well-funded propagandists is wrong how?

The medical insurance industry has reportedly hired *350 former Congressional members and staffers* for this battle to protect its gouging of the public.

And we have people here who are fighting hard for them to do just that.

This has to be one of your dumber posts that I have read. For one, the medical industry needs a budget to buy adds and what not, but the idiots in DC are on the tube everyday for free. Now, if you bothered to listen to most of the people that are upset you would find that they are not against health care reform. Most reasonable people would look at several possible solutions and then pick the best one. In reality, the best solution is most likely adding some additional over site and regulation to the industry and deal with illegals weighing the system down. As far as the waste in administration costs, fund a new system for all the insurance companies to use and standardize that part so we can have control of it, it's just paperwork. Only a jackass tears a house down to fix the foundation.

Youre gonna get a PM soon

 

[JS80]

I just snitched on myself. I sent the white house my info and told them I am spreading misinformation to my friends and family.

 

[tk149]

My first reaction to this was WTF? Sounds Orwellian...

But I guess a legitimate reason for this Whitehouse request is just to find out what Americans are talking about, and try to fight FUD.

Still, it's not like the Whitehouse can't assign somebody to look around the internet discussion boards which would tell them what kind of FUD is out there, without linking to a specific person...Why the hell do they want specific emails? I notice they didn't say anything about deleting "From" information in the headers.

Ok, the more I think about it, the creepier this sounds.

 

[JSt0rm]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
dude I remember watching that video during the election so what? and he is clearly changing his position if single payer ISNT on the table. You don't really matter in this debate because your mind is made up. You are just noise in the system.

That noise you hear is freedom and you can't stop it.

thats true the noise is freedom of speech. You're still retarded.

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: JS80
I just snitched on myself. I sent the white house my info and told them I am spreading misinformation to my friends and family.

Your papers, please.

 

[GoPackGo]

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: GoPackGo
The Nazi's were best at dealing with traitors...the gas ovens didn't just burn jews.

You're comparing the Obama Administration's monitoring of the well-funded disinformation campaign by the insurance industry with the Nazis burning people.

And there you have the modern right-wing cult paranoia and idiocy in our country. I'm not enjoying it like Eskimospy is, but his word foaming is correct.

So have you turned me in yet?

Turning people in is fun until they haul away someone you care about.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Originally posted by: ccbadd

Originally posted by: Craig234

--snip--

This has to be one of your dumber posts that I have read. For one, the medical industry needs a budget to buy adds and what not, but the idiots in DC are on the tube everyday for free. Now, if you bothered to listen to most of the people that are upset you would find that they are not against health care reform. Most reasonable people would look at several possible solutions and then pick the best one. In reality, the best solution is most likely adding some additional over site and regulation to the industry and deal with illegals weighing the system down. As far as the waste in administration costs, fund a new system for all the insurance companies to use and standardize that part so we can have control of it, it's just paperwork. Only a jackass tears a house down to fix the foundation.

Careful now -- with talk like this, you will be receiving a cease and desist order from Craig via PM at any minute.

 

[JSt0rm]

my reaction to the idiocy in this thread:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWaLxFIVX1s

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: blanghorst

Originally posted by: ccbadd

Originally posted by: Craig234

--snip--

This has to be one of your dumber posts that I have read. For one, the medical industry needs a budget to buy adds and what not, but the idiots in DC are on the tube everyday for free. Now, if you bothered to listen to most of the people that are upset you would find that they are not against health care reform. Most reasonable people would look at several possible solutions and then pick the best one. In reality, the best solution is most likely adding some additional over site and regulation to the industry and deal with illegals weighing the system down. As far as the waste in administration costs, fund a new system for all the insurance companies to use and standardize that part so we can have control of it, it's just paperwork. Only a jackass tears a house down to fix the foundation.

Careful now -- with talk like this, you will be receiving a cease and desist order from Craig via PM at any minute.

Better than a hit-and-run PM by nobodyknows :laugh:

 

[Pens1566]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: shadow9d9
The fear machine is in overdrive on the internet. The GOP has full time old white hicks like Spidey(40k+ posts) doing their work. "Freedom"? Yeah, freedom to have your cancer coverage canceled from Acne and to deny care for profit. Profit up 1000% in 5 years? Blood for money, our specialty.

Please name a single insurance company that can deny you healthcare?

you fucking idiots, health insurance does not equal healthcare



And I'm not old I'm 38

Ah, the "let them eat cake, er ... emergency room care" defense.