White students called a 10-year-old black girl the N-word as they beat her up on a bus

[Jaskalas]

The victim wrote the bus monitor, identified as Tiffany Spicer, 28, was in the back of the bus during the entire incident.

"Tiffany did not do anything to keep me safe," the victim wrote.

Sgt. Darren Fairbanks with the Gouverneur police wrote in his deposition that surveillance video showed Spicer did go to the back of the bus during the attack, but did nothing when one of the students yelled the N-word in front of her. She did nothing to stop the attack other than say: "You guys are worse than my kids."

Let's say I witness an attack on a child, by other children.

Does the law clearly give me the authority to intervene, to get physical? Even if it did, you can be DAMN CERTAIN the employer does not. Fired for assault and battery, unlawful detention, kidnapping? Yeah... that would go over real well. I do not see how there is a solution for the bus monitor to take action without being destroyed by other people sitting in judgement.

Best I can surmise, all they can do is report the incident to someone who might have authority. Long after the fact, far too long to actually assist.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Let's say I witness an attack on a child, by other children.

Does the law clearly give me the authority to intervene, to get physical? Even if it did, you can be DAMN CERTAIN the employer does not. Fired for assault and battery, unlawful detention, kidnapping? Yeah... that would go over real well. I do not see how there is a solution for the bus monitor to take action without being destroyed by other people sitting in judgement.

Stopping fighting and maintaining order on the bus is literally the bus monitors job

 

[Indus]

Let's say I witness an attack on a child, by other children.

Does the law clearly give me the authority to intervene, to get physical? Even if it did, you can be DAMN CERTAIN the employer does not. Fired for assault and battery, unlawful detention, kidnapping? Yeah... that would go over real well. I do not see how there is a solution for the bus monitor to take action without being destroyed by other people sitting in judgement.

Best I can surmise, all they can do is report the incident to someone who might have authority. Long after the fact, far too long to actually assist.

She shoulda called 911 right away imo. That would be the only thing that saved her job, her reputation and the victim.

 

[ch33zw1z]

She shoulda called 911 right away imo. That would be the only thing that saved her job, her reputation and the victim.

Fairbanks also wrote the surveillance video showed a girl pulling the victims hair saying twice that "(N-word) always start it" and then "I like my people, but I don't like your people."
After having her hair pulled and getting punched in the face, the victim says another student stood between her and her attackers so she could get off the bus. Fairbanks wrote in his deposition a boy student was seen on the surveillance video helping the victim off the bus to prevent further attack.

I guess Ms. Spicer could've have called the cops while another student did her job for her.

 

[cytg111]

Law. Throw the book at them. And their parents. Take the cracker kids away from their cracker parents. They obviously dont know how to raise kids.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Okay so I heard most of the story on CNN and I still have a little bit of a deplorable in me.
Observations and please don’t take this as me saying kids should be beat up.
Radio story had no mention of N word, Family member who was interviewed had no mention of n word.
Knappy headed was used
You shouldn’t have been born was used
And a couple other childish names which I forgot.
Per the kids family.

Also her lunch has been eaten in front of her

While this isn’t appropriate behavior it is what kids do. Really should be up to the school & parents to deal with this.
Doesn’t strike me as something that deserves National attention

Uh...:
Sgt. Darren Fairbanks with the Gouverneur police wrote in his deposition that surveillance video showed Spicer did go to the back of the bus during the attack, but did nothing when one of the students yelled the N-word in front of her. She did nothing to stop the attack other than say: "You guys are worse than my kids."

Seems that video shows them using it so you might wanna work on getting that Turmp supporter's dick out of your ass our mouth or wherever it is that you fit it.

 

[woolfe9998]

Okay so I heard most of the story on CNN and I still have a little bit of a deplorable in me.
Observations and please don’t take this as me saying kids should be beat up.
Radio story had no mention of N word, Family member who was interviewed had no mention of n word.
Knappy headed was used
You shouldn’t have been born was used
And a couple other childish names which I forgot.
Per the kids family.

Also her lunch has been eaten in front of her

While this isn’t appropriate behavior it is what kids do. Really should be up to the school & parents to deal with this.
Doesn’t strike me as something that deserves National attention

You followed the story on CNN, really?

Fairbanks also wrote the surveillance video showed a girl pulling the victims hair saying twice that "(N-word) always start it" and then "I like my people, but I don't like your people."

White students called a 10-year-old black girl the N-word as they beat her up on a bus, court documents say

The 10-year-old girl says this happened "because of the color of my skin, how my hair looks , how I dress and that I look different from them."

www.cnn.com

I guess you look for what you want to see, right? Deplorable indeed.

 

[woolfe9998]

When 10 year olds are spouting the n-word and beating up black kids, there is only one explanation: their parents. That is what makes this kind of story so scary.

 

[Jaskalas]

Stopping fighting and maintaining order on the bus is literally the bus monitors job

By what means, asking nicely, wagging a finger?

I'd love to know what their training and authority actually entails, before I cast judgement.

 

[ch33zw1z]

By what means, asking nicely, wagging a finger?

I'd love to know what their training and authority actually entails, before I cast judgement.

Go for it. While you wait, consider why she's even there at all if not to maintain order on the bus so the driver can focus on the road.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

You followed the story on CNN, really?

White students called a 10-year-old black girl the N-word as they beat her up on a bus, court documents say

The 10-year-old girl says this happened "because of the color of my skin, how my hair looks , how I dress and that I look different from them."

www.cnn.com

I guess you look for what you want to see, right? Deplorable indeed.

No I caught most of the story on cnn radio. Sorry if I wasn’t clear about that.

 

[woolfe9998]

No I caught most of the story on cnn radio. Sorry if I wasn’t clear about that.

OK well, you listened to one radio segment and did not get all the facts. It might have occurred to you that there was a reason that the CNN piece the OP linked says "n word" right in the title.

 

[1prophet]

Our tolerant so called progressives that want to forbid police arresting kids in schools unless one of their sacred cow talking points is gored then it's ok to throw 10 and 11 year old under the bus legally with felony charges instead of disciplining them inside the school system.

New York governor directs state agency to investigate hate crime
After a police investigation the two white girls, ages 10 and 11, were arrested Monday and charged with one count of second-degree aggravated harassment.
The 11-year-old girl also was charged with assault and a third-degree hate crime. The hate crime charge is a felony, Fairbanks said.
Spicer was also charged with three counts of endangering the welfare of a child Monday because police said she witnessed the assault, but "did not make an effort to stop and/or prevent said behavior."
First Student, the bus company used by the school district, has been asked to provide more training to bus aides and monitors, the superintendent told WWNY.
Gov. Andrew Cuomo said in a statement Wednesday he was "appalled" by the reports of the "20-minute racist assault.""That this was allegedly perpetrated by her own classmates, on a school bus with an adult monitor present, makes this incident even more shocking and troubling," he said.Cuomo said he's directing the New York State Division of Human Rights (DHR) to open an investigation into the school bus attack and "to take legal action to the fullest extent of the law against the perpetrators."

But it's all good as long as Amazon Cuomo gets his pound of flesh for political purposes to parade around on his faux progressive cap.

 

[Victorian Gray]

That was a different thread, where liberals don't think a woman has the right to choose. No her body her choice. Touch those balls.

Liar

 

[Victorian Gray]

How are you even on the fence about it? If a female beauty salon owner provides waxing services to women, and a biological man comes in dressed as a woman looking to get the lady to wax his balls, the owner should be able to say no if she isn't comfortable. The biological male's feeling really don't matter here.

Good puppy, you chase that squirrel.

 

[Victorian Gray]

He believes it for HIMSELF, that doesn't mean he believes everyone else has the same rights...

In any case...how did the ball-waxing take over a thread about a 10 year-old girl getting beat up? o.0

It's all about the squirrels.

 

[Victorian Gray]

No, it isn't up to the licensing board. If the salon owner (as was the case here) only offers those services to women, then just because a biological male believes he is a woman on the inside doesn't change the physical landscape of his body. If it was a salon that offered such services to both men and women, then it shouldn't matter, I agree. But in this case, it was offered to women only... there is nothing to be on fence about if you believe a woman shouldn't be forced to touch a man's balls. If you do believe that she should be, then you better open your mind to women being forced to do things they may not want to with their bodies. Not exactly a progressive outlook.

Squirrel! Over there!

 

[Victorian Gray]

I didn't bring it up.

Liar (or very stupid).

 

[UglyCasanova]

Sounds like bullying. I experienced it growing up unfortunately.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Sounds like bullying. I experienced it growing up unfortunately.

wow... yea, totally the same thing

 

[UNCjigga]

OK well, you listened to one radio segment and did not get all the facts. It might have occurred to you that there was a reason that the CNN piece the OP linked says "n word" right in the title.

Two separate incidents. One involving 10 year old girl...

White students called a 10-year-old black girl the N-word as they beat her up on a bus, court documents say

The 10-year-old girl says this happened "because of the color of my skin, how my hair looks , how I dress and that I look different from them."

www-m.cnn.com

...and another involving 12 year old girl:

Update: Virginia Girl Recants Story of Assault, and Family Apologizes (Published 2019)

Following a police investigation, the girl admitted she had lied, and her family apologized in a statement.

www.nytimes.com

Different schools, different states. This shit is festering with the Racist in Chief.

 

[Greenman]

Stopping fighting and maintaining order on the bus is literally the bus monitors job

And does that job include legal protection should the monitor lay hands on a minor? Do you think there is extensive training involved in being a bus monitor?
Give it a few days, more information will come out, it always does.

 

[Victorian Gray]

And does that job include legal protection should the monitor lay hands on a minor? Do you think there is extensive training involved in being a bus monitor?
Give it a few days, more information will come out, it always does.

Yeah, she probably hired the other kids to attack her and paid off the bus monitor not to intervene.

 

[Paladin3]

By what means, asking nicely, wagging a finger?

I'd love to know what their training and authority actually entails, before I cast judgement.

I've worked as a librarian and classroom technology aide at both an elementary and middle school. Your first tool to break up a student confrontation or fight is your verbal commands. If you remain calm and have the students respect in general, it will work 99% of the time. But you absolutely can and must physically separate the children if necessary to prevent injury. And in case of a fight you cannot physically stop, the driver should have stopped the bus and called for help, including calling 911 if nothing else. Not doing so could cost you your job, especially when we are talking about fifth graders as opposed to almost grown high school students. School employees have a shared duty to ensure the safety of their students.

 

[Moonbeam]

When 10 year olds are spouting the n-word and beating up black kids, there is only one explanation: their parents. That is what makes this kind of story so scary.

I would agree but put it this way:

What makes me feel rage and a desire to beat those kids parents to death, repressing that is where the fear comes from, is that what those kids did to that girl is what their parents did to them and what was done to me. And the bitter part, the crucifixion it demands from me is that regardless of all that we have suffered and all our wishing for revenge, the one fact beyond all others is that there is only love. The other fear is that if you start to cry you will disappear as salt and tears.