White Nationalists Running For Office In Record Numbers

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zinfamous

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Being white and a nationalist does not equal being a white supremacist, skin head, kkk, or neo-nazi. I condemn, to the end of the earth, those who are white supremacists. OTOH, if a nationalist just happens to be white, I find no problem with that.

Great, so you actually don't know what "white nationalist" means, or "nationalism" for that matter. Words have meaning. You don't get to change them on a whim because you want to associate yourself with it, while not being accused of endorsing the "icky" parts of it.
 

deathBOB

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Being white and a nationalist does not equal being a white supremacist, skin head, kkk, or neo-nazi. I condemn, to the end of the earth, those who are white supremacists. OTOH, if a nationalist just happens to be white, I find no problem with that.

It’s really about what “nation” a nationalist is trying to support. Maybe they don’t have explicit beliefs about the white race, but when they call for a return to 1950s America, they are implicitly arguing for a return to the racial inequality of that era.
 
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FIVR

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What none of you realized is that Republicans were always white nationalists. Now they are simply being honest about it.
 

HomerJS

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So I assume the President, White House are speaking out against this since its more important then the NFL. Right??
 

ch33zw1z

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^^ welcome...your assertion is false, and has been shown repeatedly to be so.

The rally to protest moving the statues was organized wholly by the unite the right movement. Fine people don't show up to with known, proud while nationalists. That's the the rally was and marketed as such.

Enjoy your time here.
 
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sandorski

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^^ welcome...your assertion is false, and has been shown repeatedly to be so.

The rally to protest moving the statues was organized wholly by the unite the right movement. Fine people don't show up to with known, proud while nationalists. That's the the rally was and marketed as such.

Enjoy your time here.

Nah, the Jews replaced you.....
 

ch33zw1z

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Well you're flat out wrong, you know. Trump denounced those nationalist groups that showed up, and explicitly praised only those who arrived before them to protest the statue's existence or removal.

Whether or not regular citizens were actually present before the nationalists showed up is irrelevant. If they were there, then Trump was referring to real people. If they weren't there, then Trump praised a non-existent group. However, his praise for the non-existent group doesn't magically get transferred to the torch carrying nationalists. Also, fine people absolutely do show up to protest regardless of who's there. Why should citizens of that town be kicked out of their own square?

Our forums have a search function, there was even another recent topic the digressed into this topic also.

The protest in question was organized by the unite the right rally, if you answered the call, you attended a white nationalist rally and marched with Nazis. This is fact, I'm sorry that doesn't fit what Fox news told ya.
 
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So, there's a new game. Read through threads, and try to see if you can guess who people are responding to (making absurd idiotic claims, in this instance the "they're nationalists that just happen to be white, so really its you being racist for focusing on them being white!"), since I can't see that person's posts. The real joke is that I don't know who hardly any of them are enough to even be able to guess.
 
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Wow, I just signed up because a Google search led me to these forums, and it seems like everyone is a liberal on here.

Trump never said that white supremacists or neo-Nazis were 'fine people', if that's what you're going for. This is another example of persistent fake news. The President was only describing those who were present in Charlottesville to protest the existence of the statue or its removal from the public square. You can see this for yourself in the transcript.

As for the main topic though, they should really take Nehlen off the list (though no one should really be following the SPLC in the first place since they're horribly dishonest). Nehlen is anti-semetic for sure, and that should disqualify him. However, he was also subject to a vicious disinformation campaign that falsely accused him of being a white nationalist or supremacist. He's neither of those things.

Wow, so you're googling white nationalism and start out by treating "liberal" as an insult (or even more funny you attribute anyone taking issue with white nationalism as being liberal). I'm sure you're one of those "very fine people".

The fuck he didn't. The people he was saying had "fine people" were fucking white nationalists. If he's too fucking dumb to know basic facts before saying shit like that then you're a bigger idiot to defend him. That you seemingly prefer him being such a dumbass that he'll defend a group (that fucking killed someone and multiple others arrested for assaulting people) without knowing seemingly almost anything about them, let alone his history of being blatantly fucking racist himself, just makes you trying to be the biggest dumbass of all.

Well you're flat out wrong, you know. Trump denounced those nationalist groups that showed up, and explicitly praised only those who arrived before them to protest the statue's existence or removal.

Whether or not regular citizens were actually present before the nationalists showed up is irrelevant. If they were there, then Trump was referring to real people. If they weren't there, then Trump praised a non-existent group. However, his praise for the non-existent group doesn't magically get transferred to the torch carrying nationalists. Also, fine people absolutely do show up to protest regardless of who's there. Why should citizens of that town be kicked out of their own square?

No, you really need to actually check your facts. No he didn't, he said they had "fine people" in them. No he did not do that. And you ignore that he did that several days after they assaulted and actually killed someone. He was keenly aware those people were part of the group he was saying had fine people in it. Considering that even Turmp doesn't known what the fuck he's saying (which you're actually using to try and defend him) half the time, and "corrects" himself a shitload, its hilarious that you're trying to say what he meant.

No its not. You're making almost a literal strawman argument (well if they existed or not doesn't matter, he thought they mattered, and therefore you're going to argue these nonexistent people regardless of facts). No, see, he clearly was praising the group that was there. That you think he doesn't know what those people were is your problem. That you're ok with him being a fucking idiot to the point of not knowing very basic facts of the shit he's talking about is bad regardless of the topic. That you're using that to excuse him being a racist is just idiotic on your part.

Oh, so now you're saying there were fine white nationalists? Then why fucking bother trying to argue that Turmp didn't know that if you're just going to excuse it anyway?

Why don't you ask the white nationalists that came from elsehwere to do that? You do know it wasn't most of their town, right?

I mean, you coming in and arguing that people are factually wrong, then showing you apparently know about as much actual facts as the dumbass Turmp, saying he wasn't racist just possibly dumbass, then saying he was fine to say fine people in there anyway (regardless of it being stupid and/or racist), is just hilarious on a new level.

Its like Schroedinger's Dumbass Equation. The very fine racist people may or may not have existed in Charlottesville. They must've only become racist dicks once observed though! But because Turmp didn't observe they get to still exist as non-racists.
 
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1sikbITCH

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Sorry you have hangups about white people being nationalistic. I don't have any problem. My life goes about just fine and I get along with most everyone. You, OTOH, seem to have evolved into an easily offended kind of person. But, I'd bet you have all kinds of 50 shades material in your house, right? I'm sure you'd be the type to step right in and call someone out on any immorality you see, but deep inside, you know leftists are hypocrites. I never cease being amused. lol

The term white nationalist was adopted by the white supremacists before the election. It's the difference between "overdosed" and "passed away". The leaders are trying to put lipstick on the pig. Also the term is used to describe hate groups both here and abroad, and there have been attempts at coordination between them and us. The term "nationalist" simply means they want a white nation; has nothing to do specifically with America. Like the NRA, white nationalists are not even necessarily American. They have groups in Germany, Ukraine, Poland, Russia, Sweden, Norway, etc. Steve Bannon is in the middle of his ambassadorial tour over there right now I believe. The end goal, similar to Islamic terror groups, is to have a large white territory same as ISIS was trying to form a large Muslim territory across international borders.

Charlottesville is in America; not France, or Germany, or even our biggest threat, Canada. And yet they bought every tiki torch in Walmart and descended upon Charlottesville chanting "WE WILL NOT BE REPLACED". And all of this was evidently engineered by the Russians on Facebook. Scared white people, not scared Americans.

You mentioned nationalist groups that are not racist, and that you support the whites in these groups. Which groups are these? If these multi-cultural groups exist they should get more press because the whites are beating the shit out of them in that department.
 
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zinfamous

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Now you ruined it for everyone that wants to read the article.

EDIT: and that was late ex-wife by the way.:)

They guy runs an incel forum....can you really be an incel if you have a history of rape, sex, and pedophilia? I thought all incels were just angry virgins?
 

zinfamous

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Wow, I just signed up because a Google search led me to these forums, and it seems like everyone is a liberal on here.

Trump never said that white supremacists or neo-Nazis were 'fine people', if that's what you're going for. This is another example of persistent fake news. The President was only describing those who were present in Charlottesville to protest the existence of the statue or its removal from the public square. You can see this for yourself in the transcript.

As for the main topic though, they should really take Nehlen off the list (though no one should really be following the SPLC in the first place since they're horribly dishonest). Nehlen is anti-semetic for sure, and that should disqualify him. However, he was also subject to a vicious disinformation campaign that falsely accused him of being a white nationalist or supremacist. He's neither of those things.

No one believes you. You aren't going to teach anyone here anything, you moron. We're all smarter than you.
 
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zinfamous

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Well you're flat out wrong, you know. Trump denounced those nationalist groups that showed up, and explicitly praised only those who arrived before them to protest the statue's existence or removal.

Whether or not regular citizens were actually present before the nationalists showed up is irrelevant. If they were there, then Trump was referring to real people. If they weren't there, then Trump praised a non-existent group. However, his praise for the non-existent group doesn't magically get transferred to the torch carrying nationalists. Also, fine people absolutely do show up to protest regardless of who's there. Why should citizens of that town be kicked out of their own square?

It is a shame to see you go through the trouble of creating yet another internet forum account merely to waste your time posting abject lies.

Why do you bother lying like this, when it is so obvious? You realize that smart people know that you are lying, right? Are you paid to do this? Are you just an alt that is about to be nuked?

What's your deal?
 

sdifox

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It is a shame to see you go through the trouble of creating yet another internet forum account merely to waste your time posting abject lies.

Why do you bother lying like this, when it is so obvious? You realize that smart people know that you are lying, right? Are you paid to do this? Are you just an alt that is about to be nuked?

What's your deal?


5 rubles per post
 

HomerJS

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Wow, I just signed up because a Google search led me to these forums, and it seems like everyone is a liberal on here.

Trump never said that white supremacists or neo-Nazis were 'fine people', if that's what you're going for. This is another example of persistent fake news. The President was only describing those who were present in Charlottesville to protest the existence of the statue or its removal from the public square. You can see this for yourself in the transcript.

As for the main topic though, they should really take Nehlen off the list (though no one should really be following the SPLC in the first place since they're horribly dishonest). Nehlen is anti-semetic for sure, and that should disqualify him. However, he was also subject to a vicious disinformation campaign that falsely accused him of being a white nationalist or supremacist. He's neither of those things.
You do know he said "very fine people on both sides". There were two sides at the rallys, white supremacists and people protesting against them.

Where am I wrong? I'm not debating left/right but fact/non-fact.
 
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HomerJS

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Well you're flat out wrong, you know. Trump denounced those nationalist groups that showed up, and explicitly praised only those who arrived before them to protest the statue's existence or removal.

Whether or not regular citizens were actually present before the nationalists showed up is irrelevant. If they were there, then Trump was referring to real people. If they weren't there, then Trump praised a non-existent group. However, his praise for the non-existent group doesn't magically get transferred to the torch carrying nationalists. Also, fine people absolutely do show up to protest regardless of who's there. Why should citizens of that town be kicked out of their own square?
The national outrage concerning Charlottesville peaked after the night of tiki carrying protestors denigrating "Jews". There is a reason Gary Cohen who was on stage when Trump said "very fine people" was going to quit that day.

Your so called denouncement was a written statement prepared for him. A day or two later he took it back.
 

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The candidate is right. He believes that political standards or your baggage have zero meaning so long as you present yourself as a 'subversive' candidate. Threaten the establishment.
 

Amused

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Wow, I just signed up because a Google search led me to these forums, and it seems like everyone is a liberal on here.

Trump never said that white supremacists or neo-Nazis were 'fine people', if that's what you're going for. This is another example of persistent fake news. The President was only describing those who were present in Charlottesville to protest the existence of the statue or its removal from the public square. You can see this for yourself in the transcript.

As for the main topic though, they should really take Nehlen off the list (though no one should really be following the SPLC in the first place since they're horribly dishonest). Nehlen is anti-semetic for sure, and that should disqualify him. However, he was also subject to a vicious disinformation campaign that falsely accused him of being a white nationalist or supremacist. He's neither of those things.

Pure bullshit that's easily debunked. Give me the names of the non-white supremacist marchers in the Charlottesville March.

You cannot. Why? Why are these "fine people" never named? Because the entire march was organized and attended by white supremacist organizations.

You're incredibly gullible.