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Corn

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Originally posted by: PJABBER
Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Oh, laws!

BLABBER gonna lecture Moonie on knee-grows. Please, oh, please Mistah BLABBER tell us how dat sarcasms from da Moonie be highly inappropriate and inexpertly done.

Then yahs can tell us about all da blacks blacks folks yah gots as friends.

We be a'waitin' ....

Is this racist talk, boo boo?

One thing I've noticed around here lately is the number of angry lefties that can't wait to call Obama a n****r under the guise that is allegedly what conservatives are thinking/doing.

heyheybooboo is most assuredly a racist given that post. People don't use that kind of language who aren't practiced at it.

Lefties have moved from silly to shameful.
 

Corn

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Originally posted by: fleshconsumed
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil


Obama could have done at least the first 2 already. Any more excuses?

So let me get this straight, you want... more... taxes?

Silly liberals. His point obviously sailed right over your feeble-minded noggin and was most assuredly *not* that he wants more taxes.
 

Fear No Evil

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Originally posted by: Corn
Originally posted by: fleshconsumed
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil


Obama could have done at least the first 2 already. Any more excuses?

So let me get this straight, you want... more... taxes?

Silly liberals. His point obviously sailed right over your feeble-minded noggin and was most assuredly *not* that he wants more taxes.

Exactly. My point was that Obama could have taken care of the first 2 almost immediately. He has chosen not to. And on the third he is increasing troop levels.
 

fleshconsumed

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: Corn
Originally posted by: fleshconsumed
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil


Obama could have done at least the first 2 already. Any more excuses?

So let me get this straight, you want... more... taxes?

Silly liberals. His point obviously sailed right over your feeble-minded noggin and was most assuredly *not* that he wants more taxes.

Exactly. My point was that Obama could have taken care of the first 2 almost immediately. He has chosen not to. And on the third he is increasing troop levels.

Enlighten me then...
 

Corn

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Originally posted by: fleshconsumed
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: Corn
Originally posted by: fleshconsumed
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil


Obama could have done at least the first 2 already. Any more excuses?

So let me get this straight, you want... more... taxes?

Silly liberals. His point obviously sailed right over your feeble-minded noggin and was most assuredly *not* that he wants more taxes.

Exactly. My point was that Obama could have taken care of the first 2 almost immediately. He has chosen not to. And on the third he is increasing troop levels.

Enlighten me then...

wow, strike 2.
 

FoBoT

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Apr 30, 2001
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yes, our republic has many many elements of an Oligarchy, this is a good example and why i voted for Obama in the primary against H.R.C.
Bush 1988-1992, Clinton 1992-2000, Bush 2000-2008, if HRC had been elected 2008-2016 would be 28 years of two families controlling the US Presidency, how is that not an Oligarchy?
 

cubby1223

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Originally posted by: Grunt03
Greeting everyone,

It been along time since I have posted, I just wanted to know if anyone has read this and knows if it is true or not?

This type of thing pretty much happens on a regular basis around Chicago. People in power create new positions for all their family and friends.
 

woodie1

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Mar 7, 2000
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Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy
At least Michelle is doing her part to fight our national unemployment problem.

Yep, and if only part of the story is true she's doing a fine job.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
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Originally posted by: Grunt03
How things have changed! If you're one of the tens of millions of Americans facing certain destitution, earning less than subsistence wages stocking the shelves at Wal-Mart or serving up McDonald cheeseburgers, prepare to scream
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wha? These people made horrible choices in life, are stupid or both.
 

Schmide

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Mar 7, 2002
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Money well spent. I would say Michelle has already done more than I don't get involved Laura. Off to score the Olympics for Chicago.
 

LunarRay

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I don't know about the site the OP linked but I find this one rather accurate. It indicates that the current First Lady has a few more staff than Ms Bush and Ms Clinton. I think it is about right given the varied chores and expectations placed on the First Lady.

Fact Checker
 

yllus

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Never take anything from canadafreepress.com as factual. I cringe every time I see that site referenced by someone.
 

PJABBER

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Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Oh, laws!

BLABBER gonna lecture Moonie on knee-grows. Please, oh, please Mistah BLABBER tell us how dat sarcasms from da Moonie be highly inappropriate and inexpertly done.

Then yahs can tell us about all da blacks blacks folks yah gots as friends.

We be a'waitin' ....

boo boo, someone wants to talk to you. Ya know, man to whatevah it is you are -

White + Opposes Obama = Racist???
 

jdjbuffalo

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: PJABBER
Oh, and so you don't think this problem exists only in the First Lady's office, take a look at the TOTAL number of support staff currently working in the White House. The place is a sardine can of non-functionaries and forelock pullers and kowtowers and jokers. Cut half of them off the public dole and give everyone else there some room to breathe!

I can understand why the PRESIDENT needs as much staff as he does (i do question the czars though). thats a givin considering the job.


I would like to know why the first lady needs so many. Laura bush was always trying to help the schools. ok so i can see one or two for that. but 18+? i didnt think she did so much.

only one who might justify it was Hillary.

Since no one seemed to read the Snopes article on this I will quote from it.

So far as the original White House report is accurate, it's fair to say that First Lady Michelle Obama has about 22 staffers working for her (directly or indirectly). However, it's grossly inaccurate to claim that there has "never been anyone in the White House at any time that has created such an army of staffers whose sole duties are the facilitation of the First Lady's social life" and to assert (incredibly) that First Lady Laura Bush had but a single staffer working for her.

The 2008 White House Office Staff List, issued during the final year of President George W. Bush's tenure in office, includes sixteen different staffers with the words "First Lady" in their position titles ? exactly the same number as that listed for Michelle Obama in 2009. If all staffers listed with "Social Secretary" in their titles are included as part of the First Lady's retinue (as was done with the Michelle Obama example cited above), then Ms. Bush had at least 18 people working for her in 2008 (not including any of the various personnel listed only as "Staff Assistants," some of whom may also have worked for her directly or indirectly). Given that the size of the First Lady's staff varies over time (and Laura Bush reportedly had 24 staffers working for her at one point during her husband's eight years in office), it's fair to say that the size of Michelle Obama's staff is not "unprecedented," but rather on a par with her predecessor's.

As far as the rest of the issues in this thread. I'm not touching them with a 10 foot pole.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: yllus
Never take anything from canadafreepress.com as factual. I cringe every time I see that site referenced by someone.

What it reveals in terms of gullibility is that self hate predisposes one to outrage. Self hate is outrage waiting to happen. It can be the guy in the car ahead of you who is going too slow, it can be anything. Outrage is the result of programming to respond with indignation because we were told we're disgusting, all the way from original sin to being put down as children.
 

PJABBER

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: yllus
Never take anything from canadafreepress.com as factual. I cringe every time I see that site referenced by someone.

What it reveals in terms of gullibility is that self hate predisposes one to outrage. Self hate is outrage waiting to happen. It can be the guy in the car ahead of you who is going too slow, it can be anything. Outrage is the result of programming to respond with indignation because we were told we're disgusting, all the way from original sin to being put down as children.

A characteristic of everyone who posts on this P&N forum is outrage in one form or another, to one extent or another.

We must all look within ourselves as to the true cause of such outrage, internal or external.

If internal, we much seek to resolve ourselves to peace and tranquility whichever way we can. If external, we must seek redress.

There is no time like the present to get started.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: jdjbuffalo
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: PJABBER
Oh, and so you don't think this problem exists only in the First Lady's office, take a look at the TOTAL number of support staff currently working in the White House. The place is a sardine can of non-functionaries and forelock pullers and kowtowers and jokers. Cut half of them off the public dole and give everyone else there some room to breathe!

I can understand why the PRESIDENT needs as much staff as he does (i do question the czars though). thats a givin considering the job.


I would like to know why the first lady needs so many. Laura bush was always trying to help the schools. ok so i can see one or two for that. but 18+? i didnt think she did so much.

only one who might justify it was Hillary.

Since no one seemed to read the Snopes article on this I will quote from it.

So far as the original White House report is accurate, it's fair to say that First Lady Michelle Obama has about 22 staffers working for her (directly or indirectly). However, it's grossly inaccurate to claim that there has "never been anyone in the White House at any time that has created such an army of staffers whose sole duties are the facilitation of the First Lady's social life" and to assert (incredibly) that First Lady Laura Bush had but a single staffer working for her.

The 2008 White House Office Staff List, issued during the final year of President George W. Bush's tenure in office, includes sixteen different staffers with the words "First Lady" in their position titles ? exactly the same number as that listed for Michelle Obama in 2009. If all staffers listed with "Social Secretary" in their titles are included as part of the First Lady's retinue (as was done with the Michelle Obama example cited above), then Ms. Bush had at least 18 people working for her in 2008 (not including any of the various personnel listed only as "Staff Assistants," some of whom may also have worked for her directly or indirectly). Given that the size of the First Lady's staff varies over time (and Laura Bush reportedly had 24 staffers working for her at one point during her husband's eight years in office), it's fair to say that the size of Michelle Obama's staff is not "unprecedented," but rather on a par with her predecessor's.

As far as the rest of the issues in this thread. I'm not touching them with a 10 foot pole.

You make the mistake of thinking that folks are rational and will change their opinion with real facts. That is only true for a small number of people. Those who are looking to be outraged are looking for outrage, not truth. They will ignore anything that gets in their way. If they live a thousand years they will still believe that Mrs. Obama is outrageous. They enjoy the company of their fellow outraged. They are at the stage of monkeys in a tree throwing sticks at a leopard. The hooting releases addictive chemicals into their brains. You're words will get the same reception as a Prohibitionist speech in a room full of drunks.
 

LunarRay

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Originally posted by: Corn
Originally posted by: PJABBER
Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Oh, laws!

BLABBER gonna lecture Moonie on knee-grows. Please, oh, please Mistah BLABBER tell us how dat sarcasms from da Moonie be highly inappropriate and inexpertly done.

Then yahs can tell us about all da blacks blacks folks yah gots as friends.

We be a'waitin' ....

Is this racist talk, boo boo?

One thing I've noticed around here lately is the number of angry lefties that can't wait to call Obama a n****r under the guise that is allegedly what conservatives are thinking/doing.

heyheybooboo is most assuredly a racist given that post. People don't use that kind of language who aren't practiced at it.

Lefties have moved from silly to shameful.

That seems to be the truth for many. I figured that Clinton would get the nod because of continued racist attitudes. Not long ago with Lieberman it was that he was Jewish. Not quite as bad as what I've heard directed at Obama but still...

 

LunarRay

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: jdjbuffalo
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: PJABBER
Oh, and so you don't think this problem exists only in the First Lady's office, take a look at the TOTAL number of support staff currently working in the White House. The place is a sardine can of non-functionaries and forelock pullers and kowtowers and jokers. Cut half of them off the public dole and give everyone else there some room to breathe!

I can understand why the PRESIDENT needs as much staff as he does (i do question the czars though). thats a givin considering the job.


I would like to know why the first lady needs so many. Laura bush was always trying to help the schools. ok so i can see one or two for that. but 18+? i didnt think she did so much.

only one who might justify it was Hillary.

Since no one seemed to read the Snopes article on this I will quote from it.

So far as the original White House report is accurate, it's fair to say that First Lady Michelle Obama has about 22 staffers working for her (directly or indirectly). However, it's grossly inaccurate to claim that there has "never been anyone in the White House at any time that has created such an army of staffers whose sole duties are the facilitation of the First Lady's social life" and to assert (incredibly) that First Lady Laura Bush had but a single staffer working for her.

The 2008 White House Office Staff List, issued during the final year of President George W. Bush's tenure in office, includes sixteen different staffers with the words "First Lady" in their position titles ? exactly the same number as that listed for Michelle Obama in 2009. If all staffers listed with "Social Secretary" in their titles are included as part of the First Lady's retinue (as was done with the Michelle Obama example cited above), then Ms. Bush had at least 18 people working for her in 2008 (not including any of the various personnel listed only as "Staff Assistants," some of whom may also have worked for her directly or indirectly). Given that the size of the First Lady's staff varies over time (and Laura Bush reportedly had 24 staffers working for her at one point during her husband's eight years in office), it's fair to say that the size of Michelle Obama's staff is not "unprecedented," but rather on a par with her predecessor's.

As far as the rest of the issues in this thread. I'm not touching them with a 10 foot pole.

You make the mistake of thinking that folks are rational and will change their opinion with real facts. That is only true for a small number of people. Those who are looking to be outraged are looking for outrage, not truth. They will ignore anything that gets in their way. If they live a thousand years they will still believe that Mrs. Obama is outrageous. They enjoy the company of their fellow outraged. They are at the stage of monkeys in a tree throwing sticks at a leopard. The hooting releases addictive chemicals into their brains. You're words will get the same reception as a Prohibitionist speech in a room full of drunks.

Folks surround themselves with others who are like minded and when they spout off with their diatribe toward the target of the day they follow it with 'amirite' and get a chorus of 'Amen, you can say that again'. I don't know that there are more on the Right than Left but do suspect the 'Way Right Christian Fundamentalist' crew might tip the scales.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: LunarRay
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: jdjbuffalo
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: PJABBER
Oh, and so you don't think this problem exists only in the First Lady's office, take a look at the TOTAL number of support staff currently working in the White House. The place is a sardine can of non-functionaries and forelock pullers and kowtowers and jokers. Cut half of them off the public dole and give everyone else there some room to breathe!

I can understand why the PRESIDENT needs as much staff as he does (i do question the czars though). thats a givin considering the job.


I would like to know why the first lady needs so many. Laura bush was always trying to help the schools. ok so i can see one or two for that. but 18+? i didnt think she did so much.

only one who might justify it was Hillary.

Since no one seemed to read the Snopes article on this I will quote from it.

So far as the original White House report is accurate, it's fair to say that First Lady Michelle Obama has about 22 staffers working for her (directly or indirectly). However, it's grossly inaccurate to claim that there has "never been anyone in the White House at any time that has created such an army of staffers whose sole duties are the facilitation of the First Lady's social life" and to assert (incredibly) that First Lady Laura Bush had but a single staffer working for her.

The 2008 White House Office Staff List, issued during the final year of President George W. Bush's tenure in office, includes sixteen different staffers with the words "First Lady" in their position titles ? exactly the same number as that listed for Michelle Obama in 2009. If all staffers listed with "Social Secretary" in their titles are included as part of the First Lady's retinue (as was done with the Michelle Obama example cited above), then Ms. Bush had at least 18 people working for her in 2008 (not including any of the various personnel listed only as "Staff Assistants," some of whom may also have worked for her directly or indirectly). Given that the size of the First Lady's staff varies over time (and Laura Bush reportedly had 24 staffers working for her at one point during her husband's eight years in office), it's fair to say that the size of Michelle Obama's staff is not "unprecedented," but rather on a par with her predecessor's.

As far as the rest of the issues in this thread. I'm not touching them with a 10 foot pole.

You make the mistake of thinking that folks are rational and will change their opinion with real facts. That is only true for a small number of people. Those who are looking to be outraged are looking for outrage, not truth. They will ignore anything that gets in their way. If they live a thousand years they will still believe that Mrs. Obama is outrageous. They enjoy the company of their fellow outraged. They are at the stage of monkeys in a tree throwing sticks at a leopard. The hooting releases addictive chemicals into their brains. You're words will get the same reception as a Prohibitionist speech in a room full of drunks.

Folks surround themselves with others who are like minded and when they spout off with their diatribe toward the target of the day they follow it with 'amirite' and get a chorus of 'Amen, you can say that again'. I don't know that there are more on the Right than Left but do suspect the 'Way Right Christian Fundamentalist' crew might tip the scales.

Yup, it's hard to know who is worse, the ring tails or the howlers.
 

Vette73

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Originally posted by: cubby1223
Originally posted by: Grunt03
Greeting everyone,

It been along time since I have posted, I just wanted to know if anyone has read this and knows if it is true or not?

This type of thing pretty much happens on a regular basis around Chicago. People in power create new positions for all their family and friends.

OK I guess you are the next idiot that did nto even read anything other then the OP. If you did you would knwo this is a crappy chain e-mail for one. And second these are the SAME number of people L.Bush had.
 

Craig234

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The question this e-mail shouild raise is, why are there hundreds or more such e-mails with conservative propaganda around? Who puts these lies into these notes?

For someone to sit down and put together this sort of list, and say Laura Bush had far less staff, required lying - either they knew Laura Bush's staff was the same and lied, or they had no idea how big Laura Bush's staff was and wrote that it was far smaller knowing that they had no idea, which is lying too by pretending they had the info.

Such e-mails are not 'innocent mistakes', they are propaganda. Sometimes they're very specifically political as with this one, other times their more generally'conservative'.

As propaganda they often use things like an attempt to make the lie into a joke or something funny to get it forwarded more.

So, how ii there a whole industry of these right-wing propaganda items created and sent on mass lists?

And no, there isn't any such industry on the left of propaganda. For any one misguided left-wing e-mail I see dozens of propaganda right-wing e-mails - and my e-mail reading sees a lot more of the left than the right. The left-wing e-mails are far better quality, from organizations with information that's legitimate, things like Amnesty International or ACLU bulletins, not anonymous propaganda that's false.

Now, another lesson from an e-mail like this is how it is biased even if true, in that, how many e-mail documents got sent around the country about Laura Bush's staff size?

None. If she had doubled the staff, it wasn't made an issue - and would the righties threaten to switch parties in outrage, or would they make excuses for her and minimize it, maybe saying how they disagreed with it b-b-b-but Democrats are worse, so just ignore the issue?

Increases in staff happen - but they can only happen under Republicans, because if it was a Democrat, THEN the righties would make an issue of it? That's called bias.

If they can look and say they have an opinion on staff size and would treat the parties equally for the same behavior, that's a defendable position.

So, who's behind the right-wing e-mail propaganda industry?