White House seeks help of "allies" barred from Iraq contracts in Regards to Iraq Debt/Reconstruction/Security

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smashp

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Since it's the American Taxpayers money going to rebuild Iraq wouldn't be prudent to give these contracts to the Company who gives us the best deal despite their nationality? Why should we give sweetheart deals to American, Japanese and British companies, they aren't representatives of those governments (well maybe with the exception of Halliburton) If it's my money that is going to rebuild Iraq I want the best deal we can get, no matter where to company is from. Isn't that the American Capitalistic way?

capitalism is a farce.

The American Capitalistic Way Should be labeled

"American corruption, cronyism, extravagance, waste and confusion"
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: smashp
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Since it's the American Taxpayers money going to rebuild Iraq wouldn't be prudent to give these contracts to the Company who gives us the best deal despite their nationality? Why should we give sweetheart deals to American, Japanese and British companies, they aren't representatives of those governments (well maybe with the exception of Halliburton) If it's my money that is going to rebuild Iraq I want the best deal we can get, no matter where to company is from. Isn't that the American Capitalistic way?

capitalism is a farce.

The American Capitalistic Way Should be labeled

"American corruption, cronyism, extravagance, waste and confusion"
No really, tell us how you feel Comrade!
 

boran

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well, technically speaking, red dawn, communism is the way to go, but because the human race is inherintly lazy, and evil, communism is a failed contraption.
 

smashp

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: smashp
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Since it's the American Taxpayers money going to rebuild Iraq wouldn't be prudent to give these contracts to the Company who gives us the best deal despite their nationality? Why should we give sweetheart deals to American, Japanese and British companies, they aren't representatives of those governments (well maybe with the exception of Halliburton) If it's my money that is going to rebuild Iraq I want the best deal we can get, no matter where to company is from. Isn't that the American Capitalistic way?

capitalism is a farce.

The American Capitalistic Way Should be labeled

"American corruption, cronyism, extravagance, waste and confusion"
No really, tell us how you feel Comrade!



Actually im a true Capitalist and Belive that the Croynism and coruption in our system today causes more damage than benifit to soceity.

Capitalism as its works in soceity today is a means of the Affluent and wealthy to maintain Their wealth.

Its this Coruption in the system that will cause and has caused people to lose faith in the system and Move towards a more Marxist View.

The Way I see it is this. Coruption and croynism in soceity actually push's soceity towards the opposite end of the spectrum


If Right wingers really wish to prevent a shift of the populace to the left, they would be better off to look in the mirror and prevent as much Coruption and croynism as they could.

But they wont.

Their slice of pie still isnt large enough.



 

rjain

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Isn't that the American Capitalistic way?
No, the books have been rewritten such that the American Capitalistic Way is to pay to the highest bidder, because doing otherwise would oppress those people by not giving them jobs.
 

rjain

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Cronyism and corruption are due to the desire for socialistic (government-managed) economy. Since the government has so much control over the economy, it can decide who gets money and who doesn't. So the "right-wingers" are profiting from the beliefs of the "left-wingers". :)
 

feralkid

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Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: Insane3D
i just dont see a problem.

That's surprising...

what's so surprising? Can't seem to separate Iraq from Afghanistan? Well, one is in the Middle East. The other, in Central Asia.

As for the debts, they are independent of Reconstruction efforts.



Geography 101: Open your atlas; There is a total of ONE country seperating the two.





 

rjain

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Originally posted by: feralkid

Geography 101: Open your atlas; There is a total of ONE country seperating the two.
There's also one country separating Finland and China.
 

smashp

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Originally posted by: rjain
Cronyism and corruption are due to the desire for socialistic (government-managed) economy. Since the government has so much control over the economy, it can decide who gets money and who doesn't. So the "right-wingers" are profiting from the beliefs of the "left-wingers". :)





so if we pull back on rules and regulations on business and the markets, cronyism and coruption will Decrease?


Human nature says otherwise.
 

feralkid

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Originally posted by: rjain
Originally posted by: feralkid

Geography 101: Open your atlas; There is a total of ONE country seperating the two.
There's also one country separating Finland and China.





That makes the distance the same as between Iraq and Afghanistan?
O.K. one SMALL country.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: smashp
Originally posted by: rjain
Cronyism and corruption are due to the desire for socialistic (government-managed) economy. Since the government has so much control over the economy, it can decide who gets money and who doesn't. So the "right-wingers" are profiting from the beliefs of the "left-wingers". :)





so if we pull back on rules and regulations on business and the markets, cronyism and coruption will Decrease?


Human nature says otherwise.

Yup, only Socialists/Socialism causes corruption. Capitalists are not subject to Human Weakness, Frailty, or Nature! You weren't paying attention in class, yes? ;) :)