Whipping the Bunny - Here are Your Right-Wing Christians

[cquark]

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
It is silly to call these people militant atheists. There is nothing inherently militant about atheism. These people practiced a religion called communism and acted with the notion that they possessed objective truth. It is the certainty that one posses objective truth that they had in common with religion. They were religious men.

ROFL!! moonbeam you just plain full of it.

atheism is a part of communism. the abolishment of religion is one of the main goals of communism.

This is a classic logical fallacy, essentially the affirmation of the consequent fallacy. While Marxist communism implies atheism, atheism does not imply communism, and thus its absurd to blame atheism for the failures of communism. There are plenty of non-Communist atheists. After all, several Eastern religions are fundamentally atheist, such as Buddhism, and there are plenty of competitive capitalist atheists in Europe and the U.S.

The fact is that there will be atrocities any time or place where people value a dogma, whether religious or non-religious, more than people.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
It is silly to call these people militant atheists. There is nothing inherently militant about atheism. These people practiced a religion called communism and acted with the notion that they possessed objective truth. It is the certainty that one posses objective truth that they had in common with religion. They were religious men.

ROFL!! moonbeam you just plain full of it.

atheism is a part of communism. the abolishment of religion is one of the main goals of communism.

from the communist manifesto

"there are eternal truths, such as freedom, rights, etc., that are common to all social circumstances. However, communism eradicates the eternal truths, eliminates religion, morality, instead of reforming them, it therefore contradicts all previous historical developments."

the vietnamese have come up with a bit different solution to teh "religion problem" the montagnyards a largely christian tribe in vietnam are being forcibly sterilized and have forced abortions.

A hahahahah A hohohoho A hehehehehe. You poor imbicilic mentally cripple clown, hilarious boob, and laughing stock of thinking people. Just practicing up, you understand:

"atheism is a part of communism." Well if I'm full of it than what it must be is logical comprenehsion which apparently is missing in you. Atheism is a part of communism but ommunism is not a part of atheism, I'm afraid, and so what I said remains true. The people you mentiones practice the religion of communism, and the belief that religion is bad. An atheist need have no opinion on whether religion is good or bad. An atheist simply does not believe there is a God. He has no need to kill those who do. That sickness is a function of belief that religion is evil, a part of communist, religious doctrine. The certain belief that you are right is where the danger lies. A Communist is as sure as a Christian
and both are people of faith.

By the way you cannot eradicat eternal truths. That's the funny thing about truth. It remains true regardless of what anybody says.

 

[Moonbeam]

Thank you cquark and sorry to repeat what you said, but your post wasn't there when I began.

 

[Shad0hawK]

Originally posted by: cquark

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
It is silly to call these people militant atheists. There is nothing inherently militant about atheism. These people practiced a religion called communism and acted with the notion that they possessed objective truth. It is the certainty that one posses objective truth that they had in common with religion. They were religious men.

ROFL!! moonbeam you just plain full of it.

atheism is a part of communism. the abolishment of religion is one of the main goals of communism.

This is a classic logical fallacy, essentially the affirmation of the consequent fallacy. While Marxist communism implies atheism, atheism does not imply communism, and thus its absurd to blame atheism for the failures of communism. There are plenty of non-Communist atheists. After all, several Eastern religions are fundamentally atheist, such as Buddhism, and there are plenty of competitive capitalist atheists in Europe and the U.S.

The fact is that there will be atrocities any time or place where people value a dogma, whether religious or non-religious, more than people.

again you label something a fallacy, apparantly hoping the label is enough because your counter-argument sure is not.

it is true buddhism is an "atheistic" religion. i myself have pinted that out on this board before what does that have to do with communistic atheism? absolutely nothing.

it is also true there are plenty of non communist (capitalist atheists such as Ayn Rand), i have never asserted there were not, nor have i said all atheists were communists.

does this change the fact that communism has incorporated atheism as one of it's basic tenants and seeks to destroy other views on religion? no it does not. it does try to sidestep that fact though.

at best using the reasoning you put forth is you can say "well not all atheists are communists" which i have already ackknowledged and do not dispute. and so i stand by my assertion that militant atheism (the exact term i used in my OP on this subject BTW) is responsable for more suffering than any other religious viewpoint. and history backs me up.

 

[Moonbeam]

"again you label something a fallacy, apparantly hoping the label is enough because your counter-argument sure is not."

He identified the nature of your fallacy by name. That is all he had to do to demonstrate the fallacious nature of your argument which remains fallacious as identified.

"it is true buddhism is an "atheistic" religion. i myself have pinted that out on this board before what does that have to do with communistic atheism? absolutely nothing."

There is no such animal as communistic atheism. It is a term of your own fabrication. You could as easily and meaningfully call it Red communism or sugar cube communism. It is an adjective without contextual meaning.

"it is also true there are plenty of non communist (capitalist atheists such as Ayn Rand), i have never asserted there were not, nor have i said all atheists were communists."

Yet you maintain that all communists are atheists which is equally fallacious and that being atheist is bad while you seem to have no problem with Rand.

"does this change the fact that communism has incorporated atheism as one of it's basic tenants and seeks to destroy other views on religion? no it does not. it does try to sidestep that fact though."

But the fact that Communism has incorporated atheism as one of its basic tennants does not prove that it is that tennant that is responsible for Communist militancy. Communists could as easily have claimed there's a Communist God.

"at best using the reasoning you put forth is you can say "well not all atheists are communists" which i have already ackknowledged and do not dispute. and so i stand by my assertion that militant atheism (the exact term i used in my OP on this subject BTW) is responsable for more suffering than any other religious viewpoint. and history backs me up."

But what you call militant atheism is just miltant communism, another form of religion. You might as well argue that the reason we attacked Iraq is because we are a secular and therefore God separated, atheist state.

The reason all those millions died is because Communism is a religion not because atheism is one of its tennants.

 

[BugsBunny1078]

Sorry, was this post about me?

 

[Shuxclams]

I appluad the well thought and concieved indoctrination of these punk assed kidz!

It isnt about a fvcking bunny! It about sinners and the assholes that killed our god and how he magically came back to life like some kind of zombie.....


So what if a couple 4 year olds cried... they should cry... after all they are sinners! And finally people with enough courage to dispell this silly notion of an easter bunny. I am glad they filled a stadium with those rotten kids and let them know the "is no easter bunny".

I think we should get these same folks to do a christmas show.... that should set the heathans strait about santa claus!













SHUX

 

[Shad0hawK]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
He identified the nature of your fallacy by name. That is all he had to do to demonstrate the fallacious nature of your argument which remains fallacious as identified.

riggghhttt.

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
There is no such animal as communistic atheism. It is a term of your own fabrication. You could as easily and meaningfully call it Red communism or sugar cube communism. It is an adjective without contextual meaning.

actually it is not my "fabrication" i posted the releveant part of the communist manifesto, perhaps you missed it?

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Yet you maintain that all communists are atheists which is equally fallacious and that being atheist is bad while you seem to have no problem with Rand.

i did not say that. i was referring to "communism" and again i posted the relevant potion of the communist manifesto. plus there are many who through threat of destruction or persecution are secretly theists.

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
But the fact that Communism has incorporated atheism as one of its basic tennants does not prove that it is that tennant that is responsible for Communist militancy. Communists could as easily have claimed there's a Communist God.

but they did not. they claimed there is not one. they also assert that religion is counter-productive and needs to be abolished. being pragmatists they go about abolishing religion the most effective way possible, exterminating/persecuting the religious. we see this even today in vietnam, the christian montagnyards are at this moment being exterminated as an ethnic group because of thier religion.

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
But what you call militant atheism is just miltant communism, another form of religion. You might as well argue that the reason we attacked Iraq is because we are a secular and therefore God separated, atheist state.

The reason all those millions died is because Communism is a religion not because atheism is one of its tennants.

what you are missing moonbeam is the fact any religious position..including(especially) atheism that become politcized(government policy) will eventually seek to exterminate or subjugate other views. in the case of communism no other view than the state sanctioned atheistic view is allowed, when atheism becomes the state religious viewpoint it is no different in this regard than any theocratic state that becomes abusive to other viewpoints. again this is not a mere logical conclusion on my part, it is HISTORY...verifiable in objective reality.

while christianity for example can say "well those atrocities committed by the catholic church were against 'real' christianity" jews and muslims can say the same thing about atrocities atributed to them, the atheist on the other hand does not have this luxury, because atheism tells us there is no moral lawgiver, thus no moral law other than what we make for ourselves. so the atheist cannot say what stalin and mao did was "wrong" but only agree or disagree on a personal level.

also communism is not a "religion" it is a political and economic ideaology with atheism in corporated as it's religious viewpoint...BTW this is communism's definition as outlined per section 2 of the communist manifesto, not mine.

 

[przero]

What a sad and misguided way to portray the real meaning of Easter.
Some people get caught up in the hype and either forget the message or worse, never knew it to begin with. Unfortunately, all Christians are branded by these type of acts that are committed by people proclaiming to be Christians. I do not think you see very many Christians beating an Easter rabbit to teach of the Crucifixion.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK
you left out militant atheism. which when not contained by a large proportion the population of those who hold to objective morality tend to behave badly in the sense far beyond that of the various religions.

nations with atheism as it's official view have inflicted much more suffering than all religous "atrocities" combined..and much much more recently...in fact it is still going on in nations like china, north korea, vietnam..etc...etc.

Even if your argument wasn't full of logical fallacies, as pointed out by others here, you'd STILL be arguing two wrongs make a right: So it's OK if Christianity among other religions committed atrocities because these atheistic regimes have ". . . inflicted much more suffering than all religious atrocities . . ."?

Don't answer that, it's rhetorical. Nope, religious atrocities and atheistic atrocities are still atrocities. I almost want to pity you for your pathetic attempt at rationalization. It's sad, really.

 

[przero]

I'm not going to argue this point, but there was NOTHING Christian about the Crusades. It WAS about religion however. Christianity is NOT a religion of violence. Never was. If in doubt see the Crucifixion, or the execution of the Apostle Paul or Peter. Now religion, that is an entirely different story.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
He identified the nature of your fallacy by name. That is all he had to do to demonstrate the fallacious nature of your argument which remains fallacious as identified.

riggghhttt.
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But of course right. When your argument contains a logical fallacy it is falacious. That is the way it is. He named the form of your error and explained why it is wrong. Saying riggghhttt doesn't change anything. It just means you have no answer. His statement:

"This is a classic logical fallacy, essentially the affirmation of the consequent fallacy. While Marxist communism implies atheism, atheism does not imply communism, and thus its absurd to blame atheism for the failures of communism.
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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
There is no such animal as communistic atheism. It is a term of your own fabrication. You could as easily and meaningfully call it Red communism or sugar cube communism. It is an adjective without contextual meaning.

actually it is not my "fabrication" i posted the releveant part of the communist manifesto, perhaps you missed it?
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Here is your quote:

"There are,? said Marx, "besides, eternal truths, such as Freedom, Justice, etc., that are common to all states of society. But Communism abolishes eternal truths, it abolishes all religion, and all morality, instead of constituting them on a new basis; it therefore acts in contradiction to all past historical experience.?

It is absolute gibberish to me. What this says at best is that if you believe in the BS of communism it will destroy all your other beliefs. Big deal. Like that's a real threat.
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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Yet you maintain that all communists are atheists which is equally fallacious and that being atheist is bad while you seem to have no problem with Rand.

i did not say that. i was referring to "communism" and again i posted the relevant potion of the communist manifesto. plus there are many who through threat of destruction or persecution are secretly theists.
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Well I am not worried about communist doctrine. It is just words on a page. It believers who know they are right that worry me. Communism is just a word. Don't worry about it. Words don't bite.
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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
But the fact that Communism has incorporated atheism as one of its basic tennants does not prove that it is that tennant that is responsible for Communist militancy. Communists could as easily have claimed there's a Communist God.

but they did not. they claimed there is not one. they also assert that religion is counter-productive and needs to be abolished. being pragmatists they go about abolishing religion the most effective way possible, exterminating/persecuting the religious. we see this even today in vietnam, the christian montagnyards are at this moment being exterminated as an ethnic group because of thier religion.
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Yes but that has nothing to do with atheism. If they had declared a Communist God they would just be killing Christains and other religious people in the name of that. It's not what you believe that matters, it's feeling that what you believe is more important than other peoples' lives. This is a phenomenon particular to all religious believers encluding communists.
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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
But what you call militant atheism is just miltant communism, another form of religion. You might as well argue that the reason we attacked Iraq is because we are a secular and therefore God separated, atheist state.

The reason all those millions died is because Communism is a religion not because atheism is one of its tennants.

what you are missing moonbeam is the fact any religious position..including(especially) atheism that become politcized(government policy) will eventually seek to exterminate or subjugate other views. in the case of communism no other view than the state sanctioned atheistic view is allowed, when atheism becomes the state religious viewpoint it is no different in this regard than any theocratic state that becomes abusive to other viewpoints. again this is not a mere logical conclusion on my part, it is HISTORY...verifiable in objective reality.
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But that is what I am saying except that atheism itself is not a religion, communism is. And this is why we have a separation of church and state. We don't want people of religious faith in control because they have this certainty that what they believe is right. What you are missing is that it is believers who do this not people who don't believe. Atheists are not believers.

while christianity for example can say "well those atrocities committed by the catholic church were against 'real' christianity" jews and muslims can say the same thing about atrocities atributed to them, the atheist on the other hand does not have this luxury, because atheism tells us there is no moral lawgiver, thus no moral law other than what we make for ourselves. so the atheist cannot say what stalin and mao did was "wrong" but only agree or disagree on a personal level.
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But the atheist would say that is what you are really doing. You just are giving it a high faluting name. Also to claim to act in the name of religion and later say it wasn't the real deal is profoundly hypocritical. A logical person would conclude it is never the real deal. But the Marxist also does that. "You have never really seen real communism." The common feature is that of belief and rationalization.
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also communism is not a "religion" it is a political and economic ideaology with atheism in corporated as it's religious viewpoint...BTW this is communism's definition as outlined per section 2 of the communist manifesto, not mine.

Hehe, it is a religion just like any other system of belief. And atheism is not a religion because it is non belief. And it is not a belief in non belief it is just non belief. And even if by some absurd feature of reality an atheist couldn't say that Mao is wrong, he could never act like Mao because how could he believe in the religion of communism.

 

[Shad0hawK]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Even if your argument wasn't full of logical fallacies, as pointed out by others here, you'd STILL be arguing two wrongs make a right: So it's OK if Christianity among other religions committed atrocities because these atheistic regimes have ". . . inflicted much more suffering than all religious atrocities . . ."?

Don't answer that, it's rhetorical. Nope, religious atrocities and atheistic atrocities are still atrocities. I almost want to pity you for your pathetic attempt at rationalization. It's sad, really.

you are funny dealmonkey, like others you think merely labeling something a "logical fallacy" makes it one. but i have yet to see an actual demonstration of the failing on my part. and the point of my argument was not "2 wrongs make a right" which demonstrates that like many here you lack basic reading comprehension skills.

for example i listed religious persecution on the part of nations who have made atheism part of thier political dogma. this is not some bit of abstract reasoning on my part it exists in reality, aka "the real world" something you may actually have been a part of at one time in your life...

when i made the claim that communism makes enforced atheism government policy i quoted the communist manifesto. again this is from the "real world" you are obviously so out of touch with. and not some "reasoning" on my part.

from the communist manifesto
"There are, besides, eternal truths, such as Freedom, Justice, etc., that are common to all states of society. But communism abolishes eternal truths, it abolishes all religion, and all morality, instead of constituting them on a new basis; it therefore acts in contradiction to all past historical experience."

so where exactly is this logical fallacy a couple of you are dreaming about? history and current events show me to be correct.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK
you are funny dealmonkey, like others you think merely labeling something a "logical fallacy" makes it one. but i have yet to see an actual demonstration of the failing on my part. and the point of my argument was not "2 wrongs make a right" which demonstrates that like many here you lack basic reading comprehension skills.

for example i listed religious persecution on the part of nations who have made atheism part of thier political dogma. this is not some bit of abstract reasoning on my part it exists in reality, aka "the real world" something you may actually have been a part of at one time in your life...

when i made the claim that communism makes enforced atheism government policy i quoted the communist manifesto. again this is from the "real world" you are obviously so out of touch with. and not some "reasoning" on my part.

from the communist manifesto
"There are, besides, eternal truths, such as Freedom, Justice, etc., that are common to all states of society. But communism abolishes eternal truths, it abolishes all religion, and all morality, instead of constituting them on a new basis; it therefore acts in contradiction to all past historical experience."

so where exactly is this logical fallacy a couple of you are dreaming about? history and current events show me to be correct.

You're trying to argue that atheistic atrocities are "worster" than religious atrocities. You're trying to deflect attention from religious violence throughout history. 'Nuff said. Who's whipping the bunny now, eh Shadow?

 

[CrazyHelloDeli]

Ok, let me get this strait...

Some fringe Christian organization sanctions an obviously stupid performance about the "true meaning of Easter". Conclusion of the Left = All Christians are Neo-Con Freedom Hating Facist Bunny Whippers.

A group of Islamic Terrorists fly commercial airliners into the WTC, and Pentagon killing 3000 Ammerican Civilians. Conclusion of the Left = These were just Fringe Islamic Terrorists that had some valid reasons behind their desperate attempt to protest the Iron Fist of America. These were a select few, and Islam is a peaceful religion.

Ok, looks like I got it.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: HelloDeli
Ok, let me get this strait...

Some fringe Christian organization sanctions an obviously stupid performance about the "true meaning of Easter". Conclusion of the Left = All Christians are Neo-Con Freedom Hating Facist Bunny Whippers.

A group of Islamic Terrorists fly commercial airliners into the WTC, and Pentagon killing 3000 Ammerican Civilians. Conclusion of the Left = These were just Fringe Islamic Terrorists that had some valid reasons behind their desperate attempt to protest the Iron Fist of America. These were a select few, and Islam is a peaceful religion.

Ok, looks like I got it.

Workin' the straw today?

 

[Shad0hawK]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

But of course right. When your argument contains a logical fallacy it is falacious. That is the way it is. He named the form of your error and explained why it is wrong. Saying riggghhttt doesn't change anything. It just means you have no answer. His statement:

"This is a classic logical fallacy, essentially the affirmation of the consequent fallacy. While Marxist communism implies atheism, atheism does not imply communism, and thus its absurd to blame atheism for the failures of communism.

i will respond to this, your other ramblings i have already debunked.(actualy this i have too for that matter) if you disagree we can go over it again on a point by point basis. perhaps you may let go of your own "bigoted preconceptions" as you put it

his statement is incorrect in that marxism(communism) does not "imply" atheism, it calls for it to be state policy in a straightforward manner...thus atheism is in fact an integral part of communism itself. i have even shown you the text. the rest is classic circular reasoning and is a logical fallacy on his part since it is merely a self sustaining statement. the fact that atheism does not imply communism i do not dispute, but it is irrelevant to the fact atheism is a part of communism.

anytime one religious view has been made enforced state policy those who hold differing views have always suffered, atheism is no different. again this is a real world observation that is in fact verifiable.

if atheists are going to deride theists for past atrocities then the simple fact is atrocities committed against differing religious views in the name of state sanctioned atheism are in fact no different.

 

[Shad0hawK]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
You're trying to argue that atheistic atrocities are "worster" than religious atrocities. You're trying to deflect attention from religious violence throughout history. 'Nuff said. Who's whipping the bunny now, eh Shadow?

worse in sheer numbers, much more recent, and still going on.

this is not an opinion, but fact. and i am not trying to deflect violence done in the name of "religion" some horrible things have bene done "in the name of God". but merely pointing out atheism has it's share of militants too and watching the sophomoric responses in reply for my daring mention this

many christians in the middle ages were total punks to people with different religious views, i would say many were just as bad as we have seen communistic atheism be in the 20th and 21st centuries.

 

[Shad0hawK]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: HelloDeli
Ok, let me get this strait...

Some fringe Christian organization sanctions an obviously stupid performance about the "true meaning of Easter". Conclusion of the Left = All Christians are Neo-Con Freedom Hating Facist Bunny Whippers.

A group of Islamic Terrorists fly commercial airliners into the WTC, and Pentagon killing 3000 Ammerican Civilians. Conclusion of the Left = These were just Fringe Islamic Terrorists that had some valid reasons behind their desperate attempt to protest the Iron Fist of America. These were a select few, and Islam is a peaceful religion.

Ok, looks like I got it.

Workin' the straw today?

no "straw" about it...that is exactly what is going on.

 

[Orsorum]

Bdawg, your title is intentionally misleading, and is an insult to the many good-hearted, intelligent Christians out there, many of whom I am blessed to call close friends. I most certainly do not condone a service depicting such an act, indeed the very thought brings me to the brink of rage and sadness for the children and for the adults involved, but to pretend that it is indicative of all Christians is inane.

Cheers!
Nate

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: HelloDeli
Ok, let me get this strait...

Some fringe Christian organization sanctions an obviously stupid performance about the "true meaning of Easter". Conclusion of the Left = All Christians are Neo-Con Freedom Hating Facist Bunny Whippers.

A group of Islamic Terrorists fly commercial airliners into the WTC, and Pentagon killing 3000 Ammerican Civilians. Conclusion of the Left = These were just Fringe Islamic Terrorists that had some valid reasons behind their desperate attempt to protest the Iron Fist of America. These were a select few, and Islam is a peaceful religion.

Ok, looks like I got it.

I agree with this sentiment; either the Islamic terrorists who perpretrated 9/11/2001 were extremists, as well as the sick-minded extremists who planned this event, or the actions of both are indicative of their respective religion. I hold to the former.

Cheers!
Nate

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
You're trying to argue that atheistic atrocities are "worster" than religious atrocities. You're trying to deflect attention from religious violence throughout history. 'Nuff said. Who's whipping the bunny now, eh Shadow?

worse in sheer numbers, much more recent, and still going on.

this is not an opinion, but fact. and i am not trying to deflect violence done in the name of "religion" some horrible things have bene done "in the name of God". but merely pointing out atheism has it's share of militants too and watching the sophomoric responses in reply for my daring mention this

many christians in the middle ages were total punks to people with different religious views, i would say many were just as bad as we have seen communistic atheism be in the 20th and 21st centuries.

Who cares? This thread is about Christians whipping the easter bunny. If you want to go start your own thread about how "atheists suck too" -- go for it and take your diversions and off topic responses over there. You're just as bad as the ~butclintons! who can't bear the thought of anything besmirching their precious. Nothing is above criticism around here, I thought you knew that?

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: HelloDeli
Ok, let me get this strait...

Some fringe Christian organization sanctions an obviously stupid performance about the "true meaning of Easter". Conclusion of the Left = All Christians are Neo-Con Freedom Hating Facist Bunny Whippers.

A group of Islamic Terrorists fly commercial airliners into the WTC, and Pentagon killing 3000 Ammerican Civilians. Conclusion of the Left = These were just Fringe Islamic Terrorists that had some valid reasons behind their desperate attempt to protest the Iron Fist of America. These were a select few, and Islam is a peaceful religion.

Ok, looks like I got it.

Workin' the straw today?

no "straw" about it...that is exactly what is going on.

Okay smart guy, prove it. Show me where one person said "All Christians are Neo-Con Freedom Hating Facist Bunny Whippers" . . . yeah, I thought so.

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
You're trying to argue that atheistic atrocities are "worster" than religious atrocities. You're trying to deflect attention from religious violence throughout history. 'Nuff said. Who's whipping the bunny now, eh Shadow?

worse in sheer numbers, much more recent, and still going on.

this is not an opinion, but fact. and i am not trying to deflect violence done in the name of "religion" some horrible things have bene done "in the name of God". but merely pointing out atheism has it's share of militants too and watching the sophomoric responses in reply for my daring mention this

many christians in the middle ages were total punks to people with different religious views, i would say many were just as bad as we have seen communistic atheism be in the 20th and 21st centuries.

Who cares? This thread is about Christians whipping the easter bunny. If you want to go start your own thread about how "atheists suck too" -- go for it and take your diversions and off topic responses over there. You're just as bad as the ~butclintons! who can't bear the thought of anything besmirching their precious. Nothing is above criticism around here, I thought you knew that?

The implication that the OP was trying to convey was that this incident is somehow indicative of Christianity in its entirety, which is moronic at best. I agree with Shadohawk and I support his posting his views in this thread.

Cheers!
Nate

 

[CrazyHelloDeli]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: HelloDeli
Ok, let me get this strait...

Some fringe Christian organization sanctions an obviously stupid performance about the "true meaning of Easter". Conclusion of the Left = All Christians are Neo-Con Freedom Hating Facist Bunny Whippers.

A group of Islamic Terrorists fly commercial airliners into the WTC, and Pentagon killing 3000 Ammerican Civilians. Conclusion of the Left = These were just Fringe Islamic Terrorists that had some valid reasons behind their desperate attempt to protest the Iron Fist of America. These were a select few, and Islam is a peaceful religion.

Ok, looks like I got it.

Workin' the straw today?

With savvy and clever one liners like that, its a wonder I even try to debate. I mean, you completley debunked my entire point with four small words. A veritable Verbal Picasso!