Whipping the Bunny - Here are Your Right-Wing Christians

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DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: Shad0hawK
while we are at it will we also go through the past 100 years(much more recent) and provide historical examples of atrocities comitted under the banner of atheism? perhaps you have an even shorter memory eh?

stalin, mao, and pol pot(just to name 3...) all had problems with organized religion too. they even did something about it. after all what better way to kill religion than to kill the religious? very pragmatic of them.
Is someone around here advocating the killing of religious people? I thought it was just a harmless chuckle over the whole Easter bunny whipping incident? Or are you trying to blow things out of proportion again?
 

Shad0hawK

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: Shad0hawK
while we are at it will we also go through the past 100 years(much more recent) and provide historical examples of atrocities comitted under the banner of atheism? perhaps you have an even shorter memory eh?

stalin, mao, and pol pot(just to name 3...) all had problems with organized religion too. they even did something about it. after all what better way to kill religion than to kill the religious? very pragmatic of them.
Is someone around here advocating the killing of religious people? I thought it was just a harmless chuckle over the whole Easter bunny whipping incident? Or are you trying to blow things out of proportion again?

i will take that as a "no, i do not want to compare numbers"

yes i am the "bad man" for being offended by your "harmless" humor and sophomoric attacks made in stereotypcial fashion by others. i should be more reasonable and see things the way you/they do, after all...if people get offended by being all lumped together and scorned in an innaccurate manner becuase of the actions of a few idiots then it does great harm to the cause of humor everywhere! and we all know that is the important thing! ;)

so is that all this is? "harmless chuckles"? let's see....

first we have the title...and do not forget this is all from "tolerant" and "reasonable" people :D

"Whipping the Bunny - Here are Your Right-Wing Christians"

then we have

"Nothing says Easter like whipping a rabbit, smashing eggs, men getting drunk and women self-mutilating themselves.

You go, Christians!"


so making fun of an entire religious group is "okay" and "harmless chuckles" of course as long as that group are christians...

would the same type of "harmless chuckles" be somehow different if it were about..black people,? or would it perhaps be viewed a bit differently?

if it is no different, maybe you have some "harmless" ethnic based humor to share as well? if you do, will you share it with us?




 

kage69

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Just let'em rant, it's Easter, they need to get their "we're all victims of the godless left" quota filled.
 

DealMonkey

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I don't know Shadow, you're coming off like a humorless old grump. I thought the "whipping the bunny" and "passion of the bunny" comments were funny. Hell, even the youth minister claims it was meant to be humorous:

Patty Bickerton, the youth minister at Glassport Assembly of God, said the performance wasn?t meant to be offensive. Bickerton portrayed the Easter rabbit and said she tried to act with a tone of irreverence.

I'm not sure what the following was all about, but I would be disturbed by the following depictions at an Easter celebration:

Performers broke eggs meant for an Easter egg hunt and also portrayed a drunken man and a self-mutilating woman, said Jennifer Norelli-Burke, another parent who saw the show in Glassport, southeast of Pittsburgh.

I guess whatever qualifies as "mainstream" Christianity in your mind Shadow.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: Shad0hawK
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: Shad0hawK
while we are at it will we also go through the past 100 years(much more recent) and provide historical examples of atrocities comitted under the banner of atheism? perhaps you have an even shorter memory eh?

stalin, mao, and pol pot(just to name 3...) all had problems with organized religion too. they even did something about it. after all what better way to kill religion than to kill the religious? very pragmatic of them.
Is someone around here advocating the killing of religious people? I thought it was just a harmless chuckle over the whole Easter bunny whipping incident? Or are you trying to blow things out of proportion again?

i will take that as a "no, i do not want to compare numbers"

yes i am the "bad man" for being offended by your "harmless" humor and sophomoric attacks made in stereotypcial fashion by others. i should be more reasonable and see things the way you/they do, after all...if people get offended by being all lumped together and scorned in an innaccurate manner becuase of the actions of a few idiots then it does great harm to the cause of humor everywhere! and we all know that is the important thing! ;)

so is that all this is? "harmless chuckles"? let's see....

first we have the title...and do not forget this is all from "tolerant" and "reasonable" people :D

"Whipping the Bunny - Here are Your Right-Wing Christians"

then we have

"Nothing says Easter like whipping a rabbit, smashing eggs, men getting drunk and women self-mutilating themselves.

You go, Christians!"


so making fun of an entire religious group is "okay" and "harmless chuckles" of course as long as that group are christians...

would the same type of "harmless chuckles" be somehow different if it were about..black people,? or would it perhaps be viewed a bit differently?

if it is no different, maybe you have some "harmless" ethnic based humor to share as well? if you do, will you share it with us?

I don't care that it was Christians but I find their behavior rather hypocritical. Much like many other self-professed, devout, born-again Christians I've known. No narrower mind exists that in that of the "born-again" Christian, but that's just my opinion from my own personal experience.

Idiotic behavior begets criticism.
 

Shad0hawK

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
I don't know Shadow, you're coming off like a humorless old grump. I thought the "whipping the bunny" and "passion of the bunny" comments were funny. Hell, even the youth minister claims it was meant to be humorous:

Patty Bickerton, the youth minister at Glassport Assembly of God, said the performance wasn?t meant to be offensive. Bickerton portrayed the Easter rabbit and said she tried to act with a tone of irreverence.

I'm not sure what the following was all about, but I would be disturbed by the following depictions at an Easter celebration:

Performers broke eggs meant for an Easter egg hunt and also portrayed a drunken man and a self-mutilating woman, said Jennifer Norelli-Burke, another parent who saw the show in Glassport, southeast of Pittsburgh.

I guess whatever qualifies as "mainstream" Christianity in your mind Shadow.

you can try to portray me as such, i see that is the only defense you have. typical.

so are you going to share some humor about blacks and other ethnic groups too or not? remember, the important thing is it is meant for "harmless chuckles" and no one should be offended! after all they would be coming off as "humorless old grumps" a most heinous fate to be avoided at all costs! why are you dodging this?

*S*you know, come to think of it... you thinking of me as a humorless old grump really bothers me! you do realize that being thought of in such a way by someone such as yourself is really important to me! after all where would i get my self image valuation from if not the opinion of others, especially those whose primary source of self esteem enrichment is making fun of people that are different(but being tolerant while doing so of course!)?*S* ;)

and remember, the important thing is that you are entertained no matter how others feel about it! after all this is what "tolerant" people do! :D






 

Shad0hawK

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Originally posted by: conjur
I don't care that it was Christians but I find their behavior rather hypocritical. Much like many other self-professed, devout, born-again Christians I've known. No narrower mind exists that in that of the "born-again" Christian, but that's just my opinion from my own personal experience.

Idiotic behavior begets criticism.


in the case of "whiping the bunny" i do not see it as hypocritical, but rather toughtless and tactless, it reminded me of many posters on this board actually...but of course everyone feels justified.

it has been my experience that anyone with any sort of worldview/religious viewpoint tends to be what others would refer to as "narrow minded", everybody thinks they are right and the other views are wrong, atheists included.

 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: Shad0hawK
you can try to portray me as such, i see that is the only defense you have. typical.
Defense of what? What are you blathering on about now? I thought it was funny. So what? I have to defend that to you? I hardly think so.

so are you going to share some humor about blacks and other ethnic groups too or not? remember, the important thing is it is meant for "harmless chuckles" and no one should be offended! after all they would be coming off as "humorless old grumps" a most heinous fate to be avoided at all costs! why are you dodging this?
Why do you keep making this thread about racism? Are you a closet racist or something?

*S*you know, come to think of it... you thinking of me as a humorless old grump really bothers me! you do realize that being thought of in such a way by someone such as yourself is really important to me! after all where would i get my self image valuation from if not the opinion of others, especially those whose primary source of self esteem enrichment is making fun of people that are different(but being tolerant while doing so of course!)?*S* ;)
Are you really that thin-skinned and sensitive that you cannot laugh at yourself? Do you really take yourself and your religion so seriously that no comment, funny or otherwise, can be made about it without you knee-jerking the rhetoric up to 11? Give it up Shadow, you're blowing things way out of proportion.
 

BDawg

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Originally posted by: kage69
Just let'em them rant, it's Easter, they need to get their "we're all victims of the godless left" quota filled.

Nah, I'm a Christain too. I'm just not a whako Christian like the ones in this story.
 

Moonbeam

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They say that power corrupts and that absolute power corrupts absolutly. Well I guess it will for those who are corruptable, but with reference to the relative danger posed to mankind by fundamentalist Islam and Christianity, it may simply relate to the amount of power each has in its own society. When Christians had the kind of power that Islam has today, they acted just as poorly, no? So to say that Christians are better today may only mean they are better contained by a secular state.
 

JackStorm

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
When Christians had the kind of power that Islam has today, they acted just as poorly, no? So to say that Christians are better today may only mean they are better contained by a secular state.

Indeed.
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
They say that power corrupts and that absolute power corrupts absolutly. Well I guess it will for those who are corruptable, but with reference to the relative danger posed to mankind by fundamentalist Islam and Christianity, it may simply relate to the amount of power each has in its own society. When Christians had the kind of power that Islam has today, they acted just as poorly, no? So to say that Christians are better today may only mean they are better contained by a secular state.

Perhaps. Although, while we may hold ourselves up to be a secular state, in reality we're viewed around the world as a Christian nation. Just look at the demographics of this country and you'd see why that's so. And if we're perceived as a Christian nation, then the actions of our country may also be perceived as the actions of Christianity. If this connection holds, the U.S. unleashing war around the planet and killing untold thousands of civilians makes Christianity just a violent as the fundamental extremist Islamists that use similar tools to get what they want.

It seems duplicitous to decry violence used as a means to an ends when we're quite adept at using it ourselves.
 

gistech1978

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: Zephyr106
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: Zephyr106
Originally posted by: Shad0hawK
it is no surprise to such intolerance and hatred of a religious group exemplified by stereotypical thinking by a few individuals who seem to have no other way to raise thier self-esteem than by engaging in the same type of behavior they in their own type of self-righteousnss deride others for.

i think i will have to alter my sig...

Yes, very true GruppenFuhrer Shadowhawk. Criticizing Jews and Christians is verboten, but we can demean those untermenschen Muslims and other "brown people" (if they can even be considered people) all we want.

Zephyr

Ah the hilarity. The lefties all swarm to every perceived jewish/christian extreme example, then fall all over themselves to defend a faith that is stuck in the year 400 AD.

I'm neither a lefty nor am I "defending" Islam. But there you go again, criticizing Islam.

But regarding one of the posts above - those silly right-wing Christians, burning crosses at summer camps. I thought they had determined burning crosses was bad?

Zephyr

Well you didn't post to the compass thread, so based on the history of your posts, you sure act like a lefty.

And yes, I'm criticizing Islam. Islam has a rampant virus running through it, fundamentalism. When christians start crashing airplanes into the mecca, call me. When christian preachers around the world en masse start calling for the extermination of other races, call me.

I criticize any religion that demeans women (can only think of a few of those - such as apistolic christians, or Nazarene), supports terrorism (can only think of one of those), or does otherwise nasty things.

how about when they start bombing abortion clinics?
call me.
oh wait....
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
They say that power corrupts and that absolute power corrupts absolutly. Well I guess it will for those who are corruptable, but with reference to the relative danger posed to mankind by fundamentalist Islam and Christianity, it may simply relate to the amount of power each has in its own society. When Christians had the kind of power that Islam has today, they acted just as poorly, no? So to say that Christians are better today may only mean they are better contained by a secular state.

Perhaps. Although, while we may hold ourselves up to be a secular state, in reality we're viewed around the world as a Christian nation. Just look at the demographics of this country and you'd see why that's so. And if we're perceived as a Christian nation, then the actions of our country may also be perceived as the actions of Christianity. If this connection holds, the U.S. unleashing war around the planet and killing untold thousands of civilians makes Christianity just a violent as the fundamental extremist Islamists that use similar tools to get what they want.

It seems duplicitous to decry violence used as a means to an ends when we're quite adept at using it ourselves.

I would change that to read: If this connection holds, the U.S. unleashing war around the planet and killing untold thousands of civilians makes Christianity appear just a violent as the fundamental extremist Islamists that use similar tools to get what they want.

Given that Christians and Moslems and athiests have all killed in huge numbers, what we should maybe conclude is that the source of evil lies elsewhere than in these things. If so than any one or all of the three may actually be good but that what is good about them is lost to some other evil. Naturally that other thing can go by many names such as the Debble, but I think it is really only self hate. When you feel the worst in the world, you have an unconscious urge to see the world die and you unconsciously bring it to pass. I always kill in the name of good, because, of course, I'm a good guy. I have to satisfy both my hate and my false sense of pride. So I create and kill what is evil. Sorry if it happens to be you. But I have this need, you see.
 

Shad0hawK

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Are you really that thin-skinned and sensitive that you cannot laugh at yourself? Do you really take yourself and your religion so seriously that no comment, funny or otherwise, can be made about it without you knee-jerking the rhetoric up to 11? Give it up Shadow, you're blowing things way out of proportion.



whatever, your simply a "tolerant" hypocrite and are trying hard to disguise the fact and justify yourself at the same time. oh! i know nothing your doing is "wrong" after all it is the people your making fun of that are "wrong" they should lighten up and see things your way after all! and if they do not then oh well it does not matter your childish ego still gets fed.

in a way i feel sorry for you.

 

Shad0hawK

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
They say that power corrupts and that absolute power corrupts absolutly. Well I guess it will for those who are corruptable, but with reference to the relative danger posed to mankind by fundamentalist Islam and Christianity, it may simply relate to the amount of power each has in its own society. When Christians had the kind of power that Islam has today, they acted just as poorly, no? So to say that Christians are better today may only mean they are better contained by a secular state.


you left out militant atheism. which when not contained by a large proportion the population of those who hold to objective morality tend to behave badly in the sense far beyond that of the various religions.

nations with atheism as it's official view have inflicted much more suffering than all religous "atrocities" combined..and much much more recently...in fact it is still going on in nations like china, north korea, vietnam..etc...etc.

that is why we had stalin with his 12 million dead.
that is why we had mao with his 20+ million dead.



 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: Shad0hawK
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
They say that power corrupts and that absolute power corrupts absolutly. Well I guess it will for those who are corruptable, but with reference to the relative danger posed to mankind by fundamentalist Islam and Christianity, it may simply relate to the amount of power each has in its own society. When Christians had the kind of power that Islam has today, they acted just as poorly, no? So to say that Christians are better today may only mean they are better contained by a secular state.


you left out militant atheism. which when not contained by a large proportion the population of those who hold to objective morality tend to behave badly in the sense far beyond that of the various religions.

nations with atheism as it's official view have inflicted much more suffering than all religous "atrocities" combined..and much much more recently...in fact it is still going on in nations like china, north korea, vietnam..etc...etc.

that is why we had stalin with his 12 million dead.
that is why we had mao with his 20+ million dead.
It is silly to call these people militant atheists. There is nothing inherently militant about atheism. These people practiced a religion called communism and acted with the notion that they possessed objective truth. It is the certainty that one posses objective truth that they had in common with religion. They were religious men.

 

Shad0hawK

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
It is silly to call these people militant atheists. There is nothing inherently militant about atheism. These people practiced a religion called communism and acted with the notion that they possessed objective truth. It is the certainty that one posses objective truth that they had in common with religion. They were religious men.

ROFL!! moonbeam you just plain full of it.

atheism is a part of communism. the abolishment of religion is one of the main goals of communism.

from the communist manifesto

"there are eternal truths, such as freedom, rights, etc., that are common to all social circumstances. However, communism eradicates the eternal truths, eliminates religion, morality, instead of reforming them, it therefore contradicts all previous historical developments."

the vietnamese have come up with a bit different solution to teh "religion problem" the montagnyards a largely christian tribe in vietnam are being forcibly sterilized and have forced abortions.




 

JackStorm

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Shad0hawK, you don't sound any better than the people who hate/dislike religion. The way you constantly point out athiest "atrocities" while ignoring things that were done in the name of religion makes you sound just as bad as them. You come across as an extremist just as much as those who constantly bash religion for one reason or another.

How about this: You try and name something bad that was done in the name of religion and those here that have issues with religion post something bad done by non-religious people. That might actually balance things out, and make you sound less extreme. Oh, or how about this: We all just acknowledge that humans are inherently evil regardless of religion or lack thereof.
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: Shad0hawK
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Are you really that thin-skinned and sensitive that you cannot laugh at yourself? Do you really take yourself and your religion so seriously that no comment, funny or otherwise, can be made about it without you knee-jerking the rhetoric up to 11? Give it up Shadow, you're blowing things way out of proportion.



whatever, your simply a "tolerant" hypocrite and are trying hard to disguise the fact and justify yourself at the same time. oh! i know nothing your doing is "wrong" after all it is the people your making fun of that are "wrong" they should lighten up and see things your way after all! and if they do not then oh well it does not matter your childish ego still gets fed.

in a way i feel sorry for you.
Do you even know what you're talking about anymore? Rant on sister, I think thou dost protest too much. What? Did you have your own backyard easter bunny whipping ceremony? Is that why you're so offended? Did you also smash easter eggs, pretend to be drunk and pretend to perform self-mutilation in front of the kiddies?

Look, it's a bizarre news story in any context, and I simply thought some of the comments made here were funny. I have nothing to apologize for, so just STFU about it already.
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