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guapo337

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the one where england was in the finals and lost to Germany? "three lions" talks about it?
 

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Originally posted by: TheEvil1
then that was teh controversy. when it came off cross bar and came down and ref called it a goal.

no, that was in 1966 when England did win it.

1970, Leon, Mexico - West Germany 3:2 England (aet) was when Germany beat England, but it wasn't the final.

And it wasn't the ref who called it in, it was the Russian linesman (sorry, assistant referee!)

 

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Yeah, '66 was the controversy, but England scored another goal after that anyway to win 4-2.
 

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Maradona is still a wanker!

Yes, from going from "I didn't touch it" to "God told me too" to "Yes I done it", shame you can't revoke it! The most blatant cheat of a goal I have ever seen, and probably will ever.
 

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Originally posted by: Snapster
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Maradona is still a wanker!

Yes, from going from "I didn't touch it" to "God told me too" to "Yes I done it", shame you can't revoke it! The most blatant cheat of a goal I have ever seen, and probably will ever.
Not that it takes much for an Englishman to hate the ArgieBargies, but he's the reason I wish evil things upon anyone in baby blue and white stripes...
 

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Originally posted by: guapo337
the one where england was in the finals and lost to Germany? "three lions" talks about it?

Probably the loss on penalties in the 1990 semi-finals.

 

guapo337

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Originally posted by: guapo337
the one where england was in the finals and lost to Germany? "three lions" talks about it?

Probably the loss on penalties in the 1990 semi-finals.

yes. but they also speak of "30 years of hurt, never stopped us dreaming"

what does that refer to? i need this for school.
 

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yes. but they also speak of "30 years of hurt, never stopped us dreaming"

what does that refer to? i need this for school.

The song was originally written for Euro 96 as it was in England. It was 30 years since the last England triumph 1966+30 = 1996.

 

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yes. but they also speak of "30 years of hurt, never stopped us dreaming"

what does that refer to? i need this for school.

The song was originally written for Euro 96 as it was in England. It was 30 years since the last England triumph 1966+30 = 1996.


ahh thanks. and at the beginning "gareth southgate, the whole of england is with you... ooh! it's saved" refers to 1990 when they lost on PKs.. (and were so close to winning again)?
 

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ahh thanks. and at the beginning "gareth southgate, the whole of england is with you... ooh! it's saved" refers to 1990 when they lost on PKs.. (and were so close to winning again)?

This is where it gets confusing. :)

The song was originally released for Euro 96, the penalties in it were referring to the 1990 World Cup shootout with Germany where Chris Waddle and Stuart Pearce missed. The song was re-released for France 98 (due to popularity), which then refers to Southgate's penalty miss vs. Germany in Euro 96.
 

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Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: Snapster
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Maradona is still a wanker!

Yes, from going from "I didn't touch it" to "God told me too" to "Yes I done it", shame you can't revoke it! The most blatant cheat of a goal I have ever seen, and probably will ever.
Not that it takes much for an Englishman to hate the ArgieBargies, but he's the reason I wish evil things upon anyone in baby blue and white stripes...

I'm not argentinian, but Maradona is the greatest soccer player ever, and everyone just loves Pele because he's more marketable because he doesn't use nose candy. But that has nothing to do with soccer skill and Maradona owns
 

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He's an overated short fat little troll who couldn't keep his nose out of a line of coke if it was laced with rat poison.
 

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I'm not argentinian, but Maradona is the greatest soccer player ever, and everyone just loves Pele because he's more marketable because he doesn't use nose candy. But that has nothing to do with soccer skill and Maradona owns

And you enter the ongoing debate of who was the best ever. Pele, Platini, Beckenbauer, Cruyff, Di Stéfano, Puskas, Maradona, Mueller, Baresi and so on. Each player had their own merits, in their own time. Pele, over 1400? career goals in 1000 games. Di Stéfano, possibly the most complete footballer? Maradona, the most creative individual etc.
 

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The difference is that Maradona carried mediocre teams on his back to great achievements.


Pele may not have been the best player on those Brazilian squads.