Which web browsers and why?

[OMGoddess]

Originally posted by: Mo0o

Originally posted by: OMGoddess

Originally posted by: ActuaryTm

Originally posted by: OMGoddess
Also for FF's specific viruses, your AV won't protect you (at least not current ones) because they are executed by FF itself instead of a seperate executable. I don't know all the details because the article got real technical.

Most of the unfortunate problem of IE lies with ActiveX. Do not believe an analogous exploit exists for most other browsers.

I guess I'm one of the lucky bastages that SP2 worked for me without a hitch. Ran since the day it came out (I like taking risks ) just ran Spybot 3 days ago, 4 problems none of them involved with activeX :roll:

i run spybot about once a week w/ opera and i haven't gotten anything in 5 months.

Good for you so you 4 less problems then me in the same time period.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: OMGoddess

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: OMGoddess

Sorry, I'm not really up for an argument, (nor do I care win or lose) but I'll just type some more.
You're right FF is better because it is not targeted by writers, but that doesn't mean that it's safer. I'd rather people not sniff what I'm browsing.

Huh? Use SSL then.

Also in my 6 years that I've used IE, I've had pretty minor problems. One more thing is FF does not work with many sites I visit.

Those sites are probably broken. I haven't found one yet that doesn't work in FF/Mozilla/Camino/Konqueror/Safari that doesn't have a competitor that does.

I'll be honest I haven't used FF, but people I know that use it had problems viewing certain webpages that I frequent had problems so that was -points form me.

Ah, one of those "I heard it sux0rz" arguments.

Still doesn't explain why IIS has more problems than Apache, despite Apache DOMINATING the market.

 

[OMGoddess]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: OMGoddess

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: OMGoddess

Sorry, I'm not really up for an argument, (nor do I care win or lose) but I'll just type some more.
You're right FF is better because it is not targeted by writers, but that doesn't mean that it's safer. I'd rather people not sniff what I'm browsing.

Huh? Use SSL then.

Also in my 6 years that I've used IE, I've had pretty minor problems. One more thing is FF does not work with many sites I visit.

Those sites are probably broken. I haven't found one yet that doesn't work in FF/Mozilla/Camino/Konqueror/Safari that doesn't have a competitor that does.

I'll be honest I haven't used FF, but people I know that use it had problems viewing certain webpages that I frequent had problems so that was -points form me.

Ah, one of those "I heard it sux0rz" arguments.

Still doesn't explain why IIS has more problems than Apache, despite Apache DOMINATING the market.

That's awesome that you know something more then me. Must be good to be you.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: OMGoddess

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: OMGoddess

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: OMGoddess

Sorry, I'm not really up for an argument, (nor do I care win or lose) but I'll just type some more.
You're right FF is better because it is not targeted by writers, but that doesn't mean that it's safer. I'd rather people not sniff what I'm browsing.

Huh? Use SSL then.

Also in my 6 years that I've used IE, I've had pretty minor problems. One more thing is FF does not work with many sites I visit.

Those sites are probably broken. I haven't found one yet that doesn't work in FF/Mozilla/Camino/Konqueror/Safari that doesn't have a competitor that does.

I'll be honest I haven't used FF, but people I know that use it had problems viewing certain webpages that I frequent had problems so that was -points form me.

Ah, one of those "I heard it sux0rz" arguments.

Still doesn't explain why IIS has more problems than Apache, despite Apache DOMINATING the market.

That's awesome that you know something more then me. Must be good to be you.

It is.

 

[mobobuff]

Internet Explorer. Opens and executes faster than Mozilla. Lets me choose where to save files every time instead of sometimes automatically saving them to some unknown location, or sometimes actually asking me, or saving it in the Temp folder instead of C:\ which is listed as the default.

If you know what you're doing, spyware and hijacking isn't a problem for you on IE + SP2.

 

[sandorski]

Pros: Mozilla
Cons: IE

 

[Shawn]

where's firefox?

 

[OMGoddess]

Originally posted by: mobobuff
Internet Explorer. Opens and executes faster than Mozilla. Lets me choose were to save files every time instead of sometimes automatically saving them to some unknown location, or sometimes actually asking me, or saving it in the Temp folder instead of C:\ which is listed as the default.

If you know what you're doing, spyware and hijacking isn't a problem for you on IE + SP2.

Glad somebody agrees with me.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: mobobuff
Internet Explorer. Opens and executes faster than Mozilla.

Quick launch.

Lets me choose were to save files every time instead of sometimes automatically saving them to some unknown location, or sometimes actually asking me, or saving it in the Temp folder instead of C:\ which is listed as the default.

User configurable.

 

[ActuaryTm]

Originally posted by: OMGoddess
I guess I'm one of the lucky bastages that SP2 worked for me without a hitch. Ran since the day it came out (I like taking risks ) just ran Spybot 3 days ago, 4 problems none of them involved with activeX

Believe you've missed the thrust of the above point, which essentially was this: the exploit exists, but for the most part (not always, of course) still requires user intervention. In other words, AverageJoeComputerUser still must to allow such an exploit to execute. A majority users fall in that aforementioned mentioned category.

Unfortunately, there are still a number of bugs to work out of SP2. Attended the TechNet seminar here in the city last week, and the presentation (as I am sure the MSDN session did later that day) spoke a great deal of the issues that are being dealt with.

 

[ABitTooSpicy]

Originally posted by: sniperruff
firefox because
1) pop-up blocker
2) useful plug-in's (google, dictionary.com)
3) tab browsing
4) more secure (less tracking cookies scanned by adaware)
5) faster than IE

what he said... plus extensions

 

[OMGoddess]

Originally posted by: ActuaryTm

Originally posted by: OMGoddess
I guess I'm one of the lucky bastages that SP2 worked for me without a hitch. Ran since the day it came out (I like taking risks ) just ran Spybot 3 days ago, 4 problems none of them involved with activeX

Believe you've missed the thrust of the above point, which essentially was this: the exploit exists, but for the most part (not always, of course) still requires user intervention. In other words, AverageJoeComputerUser still must to allow such an exploit to execute. A majority users fall in that aforementioned mentioned category.

Unfortunately, there are still a number of bugs to work out of SP2. Attended the TechNet seminar here in the city last week, and the presentation (as I am sure the MSDN session did later that day) spoke a great deal of the issues that are being dealt with.

Is there any software that does not have a plethora of bugs? Living things don't even run pefectly much less something created by it.

 

[JeffCos]

Originally posted by: sniperruff
firefox because
1) pop-up blocker
2) useful plug-in's (google, dictionary.com)
3) tab browsing
4) more secure (less tracking cookies scanned by adaware)
5) faster than IE

My firefox is not faster than IE and lots of stuff (plugins and such) do not like to work in it. Namely the link from this link from a recent thread http://kpl.megapass.net/07_liv...r/vod_popup.asp?l_bc=2

 

[ActuaryTm]

Originally posted by: OMGoddess
Is there any software that does not have a plethora of bugs?

Of course there is. It can be a bit more problematic unfortunately when such software is one's choice of operating systems.

I say that as a Microsoft partner, and an avid user of a number of Microsoft products (although I utilize various flavors of Linux as well) - just not their browser.

 

[Chronoshock]

Netscape 7.1

 

[mobobuff]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: mobobuff

Lets me choose were to save files every time instead of sometimes automatically saving them to some unknown location, or sometimes actually asking me, or saving it in the Temp folder instead of C:\ which is listed as the default.

User configurable.

On paper, perhaps, but I've checked over all of the preferences, the C:\ directory is set to default file save with no prompt. It still saves to temp. If I just tell it to ask me every time, sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. Also its preferences interface is obnoxious. I've always had a thing against the tree listing method. Only mIRC seemed to know what it was doing with that.

And yes, IE has a quick launch, and Mozilla usually APPEARS to have faster page loading. But the actual average difference of COMPLETE LOAD is unimpressive.

 

[Deeko]

fvck firefox

 

[silverpig]

Firefox.

Tabbed browsing
I have it for both win and linux, entire user profiles transfer over just by copying a folder.

 

[eakers]

firefox: popup blocking, hijack blocking, tabbed browsing, GMAIL NOTIFIER!!!

 

[Thraxen]

Firefox all the way. Far fewer problems with spyware. In fact, my IE is currently infested with some sort of spyware I can't get rid of. I've run Adaware, Spybot, and Spyware Blaster and it's still there. Everytime I open IE a couple of windows will open up on their own after about a minute or so. They don't even go anywhere. I guess at one point they "worked", but now they just open dead links.

 

[OMGoddess]

Originally posted by: Thraxen
Firefox all the way. Far fewer problems with spyware. In fact, my IE is currently infested with some sort of spyware I can't get rid of. I've run Adaware, Spybot, and Spyware Blaster and it's still there. Everytime I open IE a couple of windows will open up on their own after about a minute or so. They don't even go anywhere. I guess at one point they "worked", but now they just open dead links.

You got jacked.

 

[acemcmac]

IE is fast, tabbed browsing is useless to me when I have 3 monitors, and IE is fully integrated into the OS. Anyone using their brain could avoid spyware on SP1, now you don't even need the brain part on SP2. Go IE!

 

[sniperruff]

Originally posted by: JeffCos

Originally posted by: sniperruff
firefox because
1) pop-up blocker
2) useful plug-in's (google, dictionary.com)
3) tab browsing
4) more secure (less tracking cookies scanned by adaware)
5) faster than IE

My firefox is not faster than IE and lots of stuff (plugins and such) do not like to work in it. Namely the link from this link from a recent thread http://kpl.megapass.net/07_liv...r/vod_popup.asp?l_bc=2

yes there are things that do not work in FF (for example, this plug-in from my bank), but just for the excellent popup blocker alone, i'd use firefox over IE, and now that im used to tabbed browsing, it is really much better than IE.

 

[Sureshot324]

Firefox

1. Tabbed Browsing
2. Themes
3. Many useful Extensions
4. Can't think of any reason to use IE. Just because it does the job, doesn't mean there isn't something else that does the job better.

 

[Thraxen]

Anyone using their brain could avoid spyware on SP1, now you don't even need the brain part on SP2. Go IE!

Oh yeah? Maybe you would be a good person to ask how I can fix my IE then. I've run quite a few anti-spyware prgrams and nothing has fixed it.