Which "real conservative" would have defeated Obama

[Jaskalas]

A line in the sand must be drawn. No more half-Dems.

The choice people need to make is at a higher level, cause you don't beat Santa Clause by holding back the presents. You remind the children that there is no Santa. Only a Libertarian will make that fight.

Republicans will continue to dress up as Santa to play the Dem's own game. You know what happens if you "win"? You get a man like Bush. We might as well have lost the 2000 and 2004 elections for all the good he did us. If you think you "win" by helping the Dems, then I will continue to vote against you.

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

They were the other candidates from the primary deemed more conservative.

IYO who would have been a real conservative

I know, it's just the GOP is so screwed up, I couldn't help making a joke about it.

 

[CallMeJoe]

You would need to clone Ronald Reagan in order to win with a conservative candidate in 2016.

You would have to clone the Reagan Myth to win the Republican nomination. The real Ronald Reagan would be denounced as a RINO by today's party.

I'm liking Chris Christie's chances next time.

Many Republicans blame Governor Christie's embrace of President Obama in the wake of Super Storm Sandy for the Republican loss. This will hurt him with the Tea Party Loons who control the GOP in early primary and caucus states.

 

[buckshot24]

You would have to clone the Reagan Myth to win the Republican nomination. The real Ronald Reagan would be denounced as a RINO by today's party.

Hardly.

 

[nextJin]

These numbers do not assume much, however what they can tell you is that given his base of supporters on average were more inclined to vote for either Gary Johnson, write in Ron Paul, not vote, or in my case vote for Obama to bitch slap on the GOP.

http://www.policymic.com/articles/1...ction-by-disenfranchising-ron-paul-supporters

Ron Paul Republican victories on Nov 6

8 out of 11 Liberty Candidates won their bids for office in the House, only 2 Senators though. I think 33 Democrat seats were up for grabs and they actually gained 2? Not sure but on a whole, Republicans "should" have picked up seats and I don't think anyone believed they would actually lose seats.

Of the Tea Party (non Liberty Movement) candidates vs the Liberty candidates, the Liberty candidates won by more points per race with less funds.

The damn surprising outcomes for me was actually seeing Michelle Bachmann winning, how that happened I have no idea the woman is fucking insane.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/item/13555-the-ron-paul-revolution-moves-to-congress

http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/07/ron-paul-republicans-win-house-races/#ixzz2BXd5Xj5L

I think this sums up what others are thinking, just not saying.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mS85wOXb-EE

And out of spite because I honestly want to see the GOP burned to the ground; Your savior, Reagan endorsing Paul. Paul was one of 3 Republicans to endorse him early on. He was also the first to abandon that Titanic after Reagan raised taxed, debt and government. Eat Shit.

 

[CallMeJoe]

Hardly.

I love the depth and detail of your refutation. Ever so convincing...

 

[JEDIYoda]

IMO any one of those choices could have beaten Obama had they embraced the people and not just give lip service.

All they had to do was lay off the womens rights issue-- abortion.
Bring the Gay movement in to the fold and lastly layoff the immigration caca about sending them back.....

This election should have been about the people...the jobs issue was just more Romney BS!~~!!

 

[Arkaign]

Hardly.

Hahaha, Reagan on Taxes, Reagan on Spending, Reagan on doing absolutely nothing after hundreds of Marines were killed in Beirut. He would be burned at the stake with today's GOP.

 

[sportage]

The spin on Fox News and other right wing media seems to be Mitt was not conservative enough.

Ok so which of the remaining "real conservatives" would have defeated Obama?

Let's be realistic.
You can spin this over and over until it turns into butter.

The spin on Fox News and other right wing media seems to be Santorum was too conservative.

The spin on Fox News and other right wing media seems to be Bachmann was too conservative.

The spin on Fox News and other right wing media seems to be Paul was too out of touch.

The spin on Fox News and other right wing media seems to be Huntsman was not conservative enough.

The spin on Fox News and other right wing media seems to be Jesus Christ wore too much white. And those sandals? OMG

 

[Arkaign]

Also end the "wink and nod" to racists. Start speaking out loud against your extremeists. You know the same demand made of moderate Muslims.

yep.

GOP can reform and win by :

(1)- Kick the social conservatives to the curb. Only 'tards honestly want the government in your bedroom. Gays have been accepted into the maintstream, and guess what, they don't hurt anyone. Give them equal rights to be as miserable as the rest of us and drop that issue. Accept status quo on abortion/birth control/etc, those issues are non-starters.

(2)- Kick the religious right to the curb.

(3)- Drop the bullshit idea that it's a great way to spend money by breaking the bank with the military spending and foreign wars. It really harms the entire concept of 'fiscal conservative' when so many of the GOP were 'rah rah rah Iraq' and maintained that stance for years and years and years and years. Despite the mountain of evidence that it's a massive waste of time, that we kicked their door in despite cherry-picked bad intel, etc. Focus on a leaner force, keep them home unless direly needed, and pack up at least half the bases around the world.

(4)- Drop the assault on immigrants already here. Create a path to citizenship. Contrary to batshit crazy social conservative racist nutjobs, most hispanics are here to WORK, not sit on their butts collecting welfare. Get them integrated, let them pay their payroll/SS taxes, they already pay sales taxes and spend their money at our restaurants, wal marts, etc. Reform the immigration system if you want, even tighten border security if you want, but stop treating these people like animals in your dialogue.

(5)- REFOCUS ON Finance. Don't say wildly crazy things like : voucher program, cut medicaid, etc. Say : more efficiency! Modernize! Perhaps be willing to accept the fact that going back to Reagan-era tax rates and raising Capital gains back to where it was when our nation was doing financially better might be a good idea. It worked then, why shouldn't it work again? If one is willing to work at things from that angle, it will simultaneously be easier to negotiate budgets which cut needless pork spending and start to put a dent in the budget deficit.

 

[HomerJS]

IMO any one of those choices could have beaten Obama had they embraced the people and not just give lip service.

All they had to do was lay off the womens rights issue-- abortion.
Bring the Gay movement in to the fold and lastly layoff the immigration caca about sending them back.....

This election should have been about the people...the jobs issue was just more Romney BS!~~!!

You guys had that in Huntsman and he was burned at the stake

 

[quest55720]

IMO any one of those choices could have beaten Obama had they embraced the people and not just give lip service.

All they had to do was lay off the womens rights issue-- abortion.
Bring the Gay movement in to the fold and lastly layoff the immigration caca about sending them back.....

This election should have been about the people...the jobs issue was just more Romney BS!~~!!

The problem is none of them could lay off the abortion issue. It is not even that when the GOP candidates went with the main stream view with exceptions for incest,rape and mothers life it worked fine. It is these extreme conservatives who believe any abortion is wrong even to save a mothers life. Romney got sucked in to that in the primaries and never recovered. Then it got even worse these extreme conservatives tried to justify getting rid of the exceptions hence the "rape thing". That just tainted Romney to the point he was unelectable.

 

[nextJin]

The problem is none of them could lay off the abortion issue. It is not even that when the GOP candidates went with the main stream view with exceptions for incest,rape and mothers life it worked fine. It is these extreme conservatives who believe any abortion is wrong even to save a mothers life. Romney got sucked in to that in the primaries and never recovered. Then it got even worse these extreme conservatives tried to justify getting rid of the exceptions hence the "rape thing". That just tainted Romney to the point he was unelectable.

The easiest answer to that question was always; It's a states issue, I will not pursue it one way or the other at the federal level.

Republicanism works, as seen by the large pushes for state issues such as gay marriage, cannabis, etc. Our nation is far too diverse for insane Republicans to try and push these issues on a national level. Democrats seem to have known this for awhile, hopefully this was a wake up call to adapt or die.