Which RAM is better?

[jfindon]

Specs are in my sig, and I want to run dual channel. I'd rather not get another Crucial stick, because they don't over clock that well. I won't overclock for awhile yet, but I want to be able to do so if I ever get to that point. So:

This Patriot

Or this Gskill

 

[KoolDrew]

Why spend so much on RAm? You can get 2GB for the price of that Patriot.

 

[w00t]

Why do you need dual channel? amd processor have a built in ddr memory controller this is why its not a big improvement from dual channel to single channel you will not see a difference. if anything in ur sig i would change it would be either ur hd if its ide or ur graphics card and mobo since its agp.

 

[Corporate Thug]

they are both TCCD so i would get the cheaper GSkill

 

[KoolDrew]

Originally posted by: w00t
Why do you need dual channel? amd processor have a built in ddr memory controller this is why its not a big improvement from dual channel to single channel you will not see a difference. if anything in ur sig i would change it would be either ur hd if its ide or ur graphics card and mobo since its agp.

While running dual channel will not ive you a huge performance difference it doesn't cost any extra. 2x512MB will cost about the same as a 1GB stick while running in dual channel will give you slightly better performance. So it is smart to go dual channel.

Low latencys is a different story since they also only offer a small performance improvement, but at a much higher cost. Making more expsnive RAM not worth it in most cases.

 

[jfindon]

Originally posted by: w00t
Why do you need dual channel? amd processor have a built in ddr memory controller this is why its not a big improvement from dual channel to single channel you will not see a difference. if anything in ur sig i would change it would be either ur hd if its ide or ur graphics card and mobo since its agp.

I'm not touching my motherboard because it's stupid to upgrade that again right now, the best AGP video card will handle upcoming games without a sweat.

And find me 2GB of RAM that isn't "value" RAM for 160 bucks, please.

My RAM writes at about 3000MB/s right now, dual channel will double that. That would be why I want it. Plus like I said in my first post, I want a decent overclock eventually.

 

[KoolDrew]

What is so wrong with value RAM that you don't want it? Also synthetic benchmarks mean nothing. Value RAM also will not limit your CPU overclock.

 

[Hacp]

Ya, but It will hinder Performance to an extent.

 

[mwmorph]

you know, why not get this?
It's Cas2
2-3-3-6 in fact.
http://www.chiefvalue.com/app/productde...asp?submit=manufactory&item=20-231-012.
Then when you oc, throw on a divider, your oc wont be affected really, your performance wont be affected really, and you save a lot of $.

 

[KoolDrew]

Originally posted by: Hacp
Ya, but It will hinder Performance to an extent.

It's all about the price to performance ratio though. Also 2GB of Value RAM would be much better then 1GB of low latency RAM.

 

[jfindon]

Originally posted by: KoolDrew

Originally posted by: Hacp
Ya, but It will hinder Performance to an extent.

It's all about the price to performance ratio though. Also 2GB of Value RAM would be much better then 1GB of low latency RAM.

Why, because you have more? The only game that I can think of that needs even 1GB is BF2 right now.

And value won't limit the overclock? Then why does every single review on RAM say otherwise? If you take a gig of Kingston Value RAM and a gig of OCZ, you can bet the OCZ will overclock better.

Not to mention A64's like low latencies more than Intel does.

 

[mwmorph]

Originally posted by: jfindon

Originally posted by: KoolDrew

Originally posted by: Hacp
Ya, but It will hinder Performance to an extent.

It's all about the price to performance ratio though. Also 2GB of Value RAM would be much better then 1GB of low latency RAM.

Why, because you have more? The only game that I can think of that needs even 1GB is BF2 right now.1

And value won't limit the overclock? Then why does every single review on RAM say otherwise? If you take a gig of Kingston Value RAM and a gig of OCZ, you can bet the OCZ will overclock better.

Not to mention A64's like low latencies more than Intel does.

Please remember to research people. Case in point, jfindon

1. And EQ2, and WOW and Lineage2. Remember, people dont jsut game. Encoding/Decodig/Photoshop/Compression/Decompression is affected by more ram more than lower latencies.

2. Obviosuly you never OCed before, otherwise you'd heard of a divider. Dividers allow yuor ram to run at stockj or close to stock speeds while your FSB rises far above normal. EX. a 250FSB speed with a 166mhz Divider would make your CPU run 250x11(2750mhz) while yor ram ran at 206mhz(412mhz DDR rate)

3. Never heard of the Famous 939 Memory Matrix on these forums eh? Search it up, It shows everything but Sisuck Sandra, and Winrar were affected no more than 1% with a AMD64 2-2-2 and 3-3-3 latencies.

 

[KoolDrew]

3. Never heard of the Famous 939 Memory Matrix on these forums eh? Search it up, It shows everything but Sisuck Sandra, and Winrar were affected no more than 1%.

Link for the lazy, like me

 

[KoolDrew]

I love how I quoted myself by accident...

 

[jfindon]

Originally posted by: mwmorph

Originally posted by: jfindon

Originally posted by: KoolDrew

Originally posted by: Hacp
Ya, but It will hinder Performance to an extent.

It's all about the price to performance ratio though. Also 2GB of Value RAM would be much better then 1GB of low latency RAM.

Why, because you have more? The only game that I can think of that needs even 1GB is BF2 right now.1

And value won't limit the overclock? Then why does every single review on RAM say otherwise? If you take a gig of Kingston Value RAM and a gig of OCZ, you can bet the OCZ will overclock better.

Not to mention A64's like low latencies more than Intel does.

Please remember to research people. Case in point, jfindon

1. And EQ2, and WOW and Lineage2. Remember, people dont jsut game. Encoding/Decodig/Photoshop/Compression/Decompression is affected by more ram more than lower latencies.

2. Obviosuly you never OCed before, otherwise you'd heard of a divider. Dividers allow yuor ram to run at stockj or close to stock speeds while your FSB rises far above normal. EX. a 250FSB speed with a 166mhz Divider would make your CPU run 250x11(2750mhz) while yor ram ran at 206mhz(412mhz DDR rate)

3. Never heard of the Famous 939 Memory Matrix on these forums eh? Search it up, It shows everything but Sisuck Sandra, and Winrar were affected no more than 1% with a AMD64 2-2-2 and 3-3-3 latencies.

I never said people just game, I mostly game, and I don't need 2GB for that at this time.

Thanks, I have overclocked before. Just because I don't use a divider doesn't mean I never OCed anything in my life. The fact is, is that value RAM doesn't do as well as other more expensive brands, hence the name value, you gt decent RAM at a good price, and it's not for those who want to push it to its limits. Unless you can find me some articles about value RAM keeping up with the more expensive RAM in overclocking and other things, then I don't care. My question was which RAM would be better, and I gave you two choices. I didn't want recommendations of other things and value RAM at the same time.


I said A64 likes low latency better than Intel, not that it made an astronomical difference.

In closing, read the thread. Case in point, mwmorph. I asked for the comparison of the two types of RAM I posted, not even bit of background info on memory.

 

[KoolDrew]

I never said people just game, I mostly game, and I don't need 2GB for that at this time.

The point I was trying to make when I said you could get 2GB for that price was the RAM is expensive and instead of spending the extra money on lower latencys it would be better to get more RAM.

The fact is, is that value RAM doesn't do as well as other more expensive brands, hence the name value, you gt decent RAM at a good price, and it's not for those who want to push it to its limits.

Then how do you explain OCZ Value VX?

Unless you can find me some articles about value RAM keeping up with the more expensive RAM in overclocking and other things, then I don't care.

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As you can see the real-world performance difference is really small and value RAM will not limit your CPU's overclock.