Yeah, I love me too, HJ. What Dikenson is that, I like Gordon R Dickson.
Probably the greatest evil is attachment. All these evil people would have been helpless without those who believed in them.
We have met the enemy and he is us. There is a persistent illusion of good and evil, the inner terror that we are that evil, because we are, and the desperate search for safety, the identification with the good.
The terrorized child, seeking security in a horrifying mind killing world turns against himself, the thing that was despised and identifies with the good, the parental role, the authoritarian. This is the Stockholm syndrome writ large. We become the perpetrators of our own horror, the unconscious moths that return over and over on the wheel of karma to the horror of the past.
We have no choice; it's our way of trying to return to the light. But the fate of the moth is the flame.
That is why God sent the Phoenix, to show us the way. Only the mind that can let go, only he who will leave his thousand pounds of cabbage on the bank will cross. We need to unlearn and what we need to unlearn is attachment.
It's through our attachment that we create the Monster of the Id.
The poor fools who are attached, they think the war is about this or that attachment. For them the fool is he who is attached to the wrong thing. Hehe, here is the power that drives the wheel. He sees the other fool but not himself. So sad, for that other fool sees exactly the same in him.
Thus do we form the parties that contend. We are the good guys they the bad.
If it bothers you that Gore won, you have lost.
Probably the greatest evil is attachment. All these evil people would have been helpless without those who believed in them.
We have met the enemy and he is us. There is a persistent illusion of good and evil, the inner terror that we are that evil, because we are, and the desperate search for safety, the identification with the good.
The terrorized child, seeking security in a horrifying mind killing world turns against himself, the thing that was despised and identifies with the good, the parental role, the authoritarian. This is the Stockholm syndrome writ large. We become the perpetrators of our own horror, the unconscious moths that return over and over on the wheel of karma to the horror of the past.
We have no choice; it's our way of trying to return to the light. But the fate of the moth is the flame.
That is why God sent the Phoenix, to show us the way. Only the mind that can let go, only he who will leave his thousand pounds of cabbage on the bank will cross. We need to unlearn and what we need to unlearn is attachment.
It's through our attachment that we create the Monster of the Id.
The poor fools who are attached, they think the war is about this or that attachment. For them the fool is he who is attached to the wrong thing. Hehe, here is the power that drives the wheel. He sees the other fool but not himself. So sad, for that other fool sees exactly the same in him.
Thus do we form the parties that contend. We are the good guys they the bad.
If it bothers you that Gore won, you have lost.
Moonie, if it bothers you so much that Pres. Bush won the election that you have to hold on so desperately to the falsehood that "Gore won" than both you and Gore have lost.
I know I'm feeding the trolls but I have the day off. They need feeding now and then.
I know I'm feeding the trolls but I have the day off. They need feeding now and then.
Moonie, if it bothers you so much that Pres. Bush won the election that you have to hold on so desperately to the falsehood that "Gore won" than both you and Gore have lost.
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How very true.
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How very true.
It's a type of blind animal that eats it's own cabbage to gain density, hoping, thereby, to better be able to swim.
That's not to be confused with the Net Catcher that wants you to be fishers of men. He got so mistakened for a troll they strung him up. You know how dangerous it can be to fish with a mirror shiney lure.
That's not to be confused with the Net Catcher that wants you to be fishers of men. He got so mistakened for a troll they strung him up. You know how dangerous it can be to fish with a mirror shiney lure.
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
If there was any doubt to whether Moonbeam has lost his marbles, this should provide that last bit of evidence
CkG
LunarRay
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Oh.. thanks I understand now..
sorta like fishing... the troll sets out a lure, with a bait not designed to "float" in hopes of luring an unsuspecting fish into the snare of discussion... one that reflects the fishes own image in the hopes of setting him free before he bits a hook of steel.
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
If there was any doubt to whether Moonbeam has lost his marbles, this should provide that last bit of evidence
CkG
I'm not positive but I think moonie just said he was Jesus Christ in that post. Perhaps his Napolean suit is at the dry cleaners this week.
moonie, you still have said plainly why you will not debate Gore's loss in the 2000 election in the thread that was started for it of in a new one if that one scares you.
Au clair de la lune, all's clear to the loon, the wise they say are insane.
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sandorski: Or evidence that you just don't know what the hell he is saying.
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Experience has taught me it's sometimes better that way.
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HJ, while your extrapolation was of the finest caliber, you may want to check with google for 'Internet Troll' or sume such to get a somewhat more general meaning. What a pity you're not Mr. Webster.
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sandorski: Or evidence that you just don't know what the hell he is saying.
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Experience has taught me it's sometimes better that way.
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HJ, while your extrapolation was of the finest caliber, you may want to check with google for 'Internet Troll' or sume such to get a somewhat more general meaning. What a pity you're not Mr. Webster.
"That is the truest sign of insanity - insane people are always sure that they are fine. It is only the sane people who are willing to admit that they are crazy."
-Nora Ephron-
-Nora Ephron-
Well, etech, aside form that being my point, unless you're adding your voice to mine, there is a third class of people, very rare that Nora didn't know about. That would be the cured. Not only are they not insane, they also know it. These are the ones all think are nuts.
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Well, etech, aside form that being my point, unless you're adding your voice to mine, there is a third class of people, very rare that Nora didn't know about. That would be the cured. Not only are they not insane, they also know it. These are the ones all think are nuts.
Of course moonie, I wouldn't expect you to say anything else. The ones that are the most insane do not recognize it at all and must constantly state that they are sane and every one else is insane. The delusions of grandeur and references to themselves as historical figures (fisher of men) are a giveaway as to how far gone they truly are.
Now would you like to defend your delusion that Gore won the election?
In a thread dedicated to that subject of course.
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Never occured to me to look in the Google for a definition... I assumed it was something made up here...
I did and here it is... for those who may be "noobles" or whatever we are called.
An Internet "troll" is a person who delights in sowing discord on the Internet. He (and it is usually he) tries to start arguments and upset people.
Trolls see Internet communications services as convenient venues for their bizarre game. For some reason, they don't "get" that they are hurting real people. To them, other Internet users are not quite human but are a kind of digital abstraction. As a result, they feel no sorrow whatsoever for the pain they inflict. Indeed, the greater the suffering they cause, the greater their 'achievement' (as they see it). At the moment, the relative anonymity of the net allows trolls to flourish.
Trolls are utterly impervious to criticism (constructive or otherwise). You cannot negotiate with them; you cannot cause them to feel shame or compassion; you cannot reason with them. They cannot be made to feel remorse. For some reason, trolls do not feel they are bound by the rules of courtesy or social responsibility.
Perhaps this sounds inconceivable. You may think, "Surely there is something I can write that will change them." But a true troll can not be changed by mere words.
Now I understand.
I did and here it is... for those who may be "noobles" or whatever we are called.
An Internet "troll" is a person who delights in sowing discord on the Internet. He (and it is usually he) tries to start arguments and upset people.
Trolls see Internet communications services as convenient venues for their bizarre game. For some reason, they don't "get" that they are hurting real people. To them, other Internet users are not quite human but are a kind of digital abstraction. As a result, they feel no sorrow whatsoever for the pain they inflict. Indeed, the greater the suffering they cause, the greater their 'achievement' (as they see it). At the moment, the relative anonymity of the net allows trolls to flourish.
Trolls are utterly impervious to criticism (constructive or otherwise). You cannot negotiate with them; you cannot cause them to feel shame or compassion; you cannot reason with them. They cannot be made to feel remorse. For some reason, trolls do not feel they are bound by the rules of courtesy or social responsibility.
Perhaps this sounds inconceivable. You may think, "Surely there is something I can write that will change them." But a true troll can not be changed by mere words.
Now I understand.
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Moonster,
I do remember the post you made awhile back about a $600 hammer and union dues for the carpenter's union..... hmmm Could it be true.... nah not Moonie... but... on the other hand .... well... it could be.... no?
Well have to see if you have a horse or two...
I do remember the post you made awhile back about a $600 hammer and union dues for the carpenter's union..... hmmm Could it be true.... nah not Moonie... but... on the other hand .... well... it could be.... no?
Well have to see if you have a horse or two...
Good job HJ, that was a much better definition than I was going to link you to when you first asked and I was called away.
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"It is only the sane people who are willing to admit that they are crazy."
I will be most happy, etech, if you will start a thread in which you describe to us your insanity in great and lurid detail after which we will surely all be convincedb that you are sane.
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"It is only the sane people who are willing to admit that they are crazy."
I will be most happy, etech, if you will start a thread in which you describe to us your insanity in great and lurid detail after which we will surely all be convincedb that you are sane.
I saw a couple of horses around here some place, an least I think I saw their rear most portions. It could have just been delusions of grandeur, I don't know.
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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I saw a couple of horses around here some place, an least I think I saw their rear most portions. It could have just been delusions of grandeur, I don't know.
Yeah... I felt the kick of one of them trolling steeds... hurt real bad... I think cyber hurt don't really hurt though but, it is real as all heck.
I, in the horsey post above (9:24) was refering to etech asserting or suggesting you claimed to be Jesus who was a carpenter. But, I know you are really Alexander the Great.
And if not, then just common ordinary Great.
Theodore Roosevelt - is my favorite - he is so short, warm , furry , and cudely. Just like a Teddy Ruxbin.
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