Which is a better card?

[necro007]

Hi, between these 2 video cards which is better?

1...http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/...m-details.asp?EdpNo=1649636&CatId=1560

(I don't care about the free game)


OR

2...http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?...-N515-AX&manufacture=eVGA&promoid=1030

Which is the best bang for buck, also i stay in canada so finding a cheap 7800GT is hard.

If some one can please tell me which make is better and why.

I know EVGA is good but what about the other one.

If you guys know any other video card worth it please let me know.

Thanks.

 

[Eureka]

PNY is mediocre. Get the eVGA one, it even has the custom cooler, and you can probably overclock it higher.

Norm

 

[necro007]

Great a quick reply, do you know of any place that has the 7800GT cheaper?

 

[Eureka]

Not for Canada...

Norm

 

[necro007]

I just want to know somthing about Evga, do they cover lifetime warranty even i oc the card and if somthing went wrong?

 

[necro007]

Here's my spek's on my psu:


DC Out------>+5v....+12v....-5v....-12v....+3,3v....+5vsb

KY_450ATX >40A.....18A.....0,3A...0,8A......28A......2

My psu make is called "Safe Power".

Do you think i will be able to run a 7800GT (or a 6800GS) on this psu.

 

[Yreka]

EVGA is worth it for their after sales support alone. PNY is easily the worst company I have delt with in regards to trying to get warranty service.

 

[necro007]

Okay, Evga is good but if i oc a 7800GT and somthing goes wrong will they replace my card(do they cover over clocking).

 

[Elfear]

Originally posted by: necro007
Here's my spek's on my psu:


DC Out------>+5v....+12v....-5v....-12v....+3,3v....+5vsb

KY_450ATX >40A.....18A.....0,3A...0,8A......28A......2

My psu make is called "Safe Power".

Do you think i will be able to run a 7800GT (or a 6800GS) on this psu.

If it were me, I'd buy a quality PSU just for peace of mind. The 12V line will probably be sufficient but again a quality PSU is an important investment. You can find one for around $50-60 too so you don't have to spend an arm and a leg. Zebo, who knows his stuff, recommends E-power PSU's as supposedly they have the same internals as the OCZ PSU's. Fortron, Seasonic, Enermax, and Antec are also good PSU's for not too much money.

 

[Yreka]

Originally posted by: necro007
Okay, Evga is good but if i oc a 7800GT and somthing goes wrong will they replace my card(do they cover over clocking).

Yes they will. Quote from here.

EVGA's policy is slightly different than XFX's. The way it differs from XFX's, or any other graphics card manufacturers' that we know of, is the fact that EVGA will replace the card for any reason except deliberate physical damage. That means that if you accidentally damage your card by excessive overclocking, EVGA will replace it for the cost of shipping. This is why we feel that their warranty policy stands out.

 

[VIAN]

PNY isn't known for high quality stuff. Nor is it known for good customer support.

If you want the best BFG is the best, but it may be a bit pricier.

 

[CP5670]

PNY makes most of Nvidia's workstation Quadro cards, so I would think their quality should be pretty good, although their support may well suck.

By the way, that EVGA card is not the one with the custom cooler. It's still a very nice card though and definitely the better buy out of those two.

 

[Eureka]

BFG isn't worth it...

Hmm... you sure that it isn't the custom cooler? The pic has the black one on it... or is it the other way around.

Norm

 

[CP5670]

They all have the black EVGA sticker on the top. This is the normal cooler while this is the larger GTX cooler.

 

[Wentelteefje]

I would invest in a decent PSU too... You have a Pentium 4 (those are power hogs...), 2 large hard drives... (and you don't mention your optical drives... ), and if you're going to add a 7800GT, this might be too much... Better safe dan sorry in this case, it's really not worth blowing...

If you want a decent and stable PSU, get yourself a Fortron... Even this 400W will prove strong enough... That's about US $ 45...

 

[necro007]

Check under my ram, i have a LG DVD writer.

Are you sure that a 400w would be able to handle my PC with a 7800GT?

Here's the link:
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?...eviewread&product_id=15860#review34952

Do you guys think that this psu would be okay, and would i have any problems with it.

 

[VIAN]

Originally posted by: CP5670
PNY makes most of Nvidia's workstation Quadro cards, so I would think their quality should be pretty good, although their support may well suck.

Just because they put out good workstation cards doesn't mean they put out good PC cards.

 

[DeathReborn]

Originally posted by: VIAN

Originally posted by: CP5670
PNY makes most of Nvidia's workstation Quadro cards, so I would think their quality should be pretty good, although their support may well suck.

Just because they put out good workstation cards doesn't mean they put out good PC cards.

I bought 2 of the PNY 7800GT's and am very happy with their quality. Haven't tried their support since my old GeForce 3 and haven't needed it either. It should also be noted, the PNY 7800GT comes with CoD2 while the evga gets you a "Mystery" game.

 

[Wentelteefje]

Check under my ram, i have a LG DVD writer.

Damn, you're completely right... :Q I must be sleeping...

Yes it will be enough for it, but if you'd like to be sure, you can still buy it's slightly bigger brother of 450W... The price difference isn't too big...

What makes the 400W version good...

- Cheap!
- Silent!
- Stable!
- Dual 12V rails with a total of a hefty 34Amps...
- Over-voltage and over-load protection
- 20+4pin mobo connector
- Lots of other connectors: 1 PCI-e, 1 four-pin, 2 SATA, 6 Molex and 1 floppy connector...

What makes the 400W version bad...

- Amps on 3.3V and 5V rails are not that much as the 450W...
- No PFC (so you'll manually have to put the switch in the right position... can you do that? )
- No sleeved cables

The 450W is more or less the same, only here you have 36Amps on the 12V rails, overall Amps are a lot higher on 3.3V (30A vs. 22A) and 5V (28A vs. 21A) rails too... Same amount of connectors...

Ok, if you could find the 450W for a low price somewhere, that would be the best choice... If not, the 400W will do just fine...

 

[Matthias99]

Originally posted by: Yreka

Originally posted by: necro007
Okay, Evga is good but if i oc a 7800GT and somthing goes wrong will they replace my card(do they cover over clocking).

Yes they will. Quote from here.

EVGA's policy is slightly different than XFX's. The way it differs from XFX's, or any other graphics card manufacturers' that we know of, is the fact that EVGA will replace the card for any reason except deliberate physical damage. That means that if you accidentally damage your card by excessive overclocking, EVGA will replace it for the cost of shipping. This is why we feel that their warranty policy stands out.

AT's claim to the contrary notwithstanding, I've never heard that. Here is the text of their current warranty coverage from their website:

EVGA is recognized through customer loyalty and the highest levels in customer satisfaction. We continously work to make sure that each sale results in a customer for life! This is part of the EVGA Difference - known for offering value and performance, as well as top notch customer service.

In keeping with our valued ideology, we are pleased to offer the new EVGA Lifetime Warranty.

For our retail Graphics Card and Mainboard products purchased on or after June 22, 2005, EVGA will provide a lifetime warranty to the original purchaser of each retail product that the product will not suffer, in material or workmanship, from any defect that adversely affects the performance of the product. This lifetime warranty is valid for the life of the retail product, so long as the original purchaser owns the product, based upon the following conditions:

* Lifetime Warranty is for all retail Graphics Card and Mainboard products ending in the part numbers AX, DX, or FX
* There is no physical damage to the PCB, GPU/chipset, or components

We will repair or replace the defective parts free of charge (no refunds). All you pay is the shipping charge to return the product to EVGA.

EVGA reserves the right to claim for shipping fees along with a service charge* from the customer for any incomplete or modified product that is returned and requires repair or replacement, or when the customer is not entitled to any coverage under this lifetime warranty. EVGA provides this same lifetime warranty to any graphics card and mainboard repaired or replaced pursuant this lifetime warranty.

Please feel free to call us first for any needed support at (888) 881-EVGA (3842) 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

We stand behind the products we sell, for their value, quality, and reliability.

Don't forget EVGA offers the VGA Industry exclusive Step-Up Program.

* Service charge is variable based upon the actual material cost to replace missing or modified parts back to their original factory condition.

(emphasis added)

That doesn't sound exactly like "we cover OCing to the point of breakage" to me. Most companies consider overclocking to be a form of 'modification' of the hardware.

 

[necro007]

Hey guys i need some help on this:

Originally posted by: Matthias99

Originally posted by: Yreka

Originally posted by: necro007
Okay, Evga is good but if i oc a 7800GT and somthing goes wrong will they replace my card(do they cover over clocking).

Yes they will. Quote from here.

EVGA's policy is slightly different than XFX's. The way it differs from XFX's, or any other graphics card manufacturers' that we know of, is the fact that EVGA will replace the card for any reason except deliberate physical damage. That means that if you accidentally damage your card by excessive overclocking, EVGA will replace it for the cost of shipping. This is why we feel that their warranty policy stands out.

AT's claim to the contrary notwithstanding, I've never heard that. Here is the text of their current warranty coverage from their website:

EVGA is recognized through customer loyalty and the highest levels in customer satisfaction. We continously work to make sure that each sale results in a customer for life! This is part of the EVGA Difference - known for offering value and performance, as well as top notch customer service.

In keeping with our valued ideology, we are pleased to offer the new EVGA Lifetime Warranty.

For our retail Graphics Card and Mainboard products purchased on or after June 22, 2005, EVGA will provide a lifetime warranty to the original purchaser of each retail product that the product will not suffer, in material or workmanship, from any defect that adversely affects the performance of the product. This lifetime warranty is valid for the life of the retail product, so long as the original purchaser owns the product, based upon the following conditions:

* Lifetime Warranty is for all retail Graphics Card and Mainboard products ending in the part numbers AX, DX, or FX
* There is no physical damage to the PCB, GPU/chipset, or components

We will repair or replace the defective parts free of charge (no refunds). All you pay is the shipping charge to return the product to EVGA.

EVGA reserves the right to claim for shipping fees along with a service charge* from the customer for any incomplete or modified product that is returned and requires repair or replacement, or when the customer is not entitled to any coverage under this lifetime warranty. EVGA provides this same lifetime warranty to any graphics card and mainboard repaired or replaced pursuant this lifetime warranty.

Please feel free to call us first for any needed support at (888) 881-EVGA (3842) 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

We stand behind the products we sell, for their value, quality, and reliability.

Don't forget EVGA offers the VGA Industry exclusive Step-Up Program.

* Service charge is variable based upon the actual material cost to replace missing or modified parts back to their original factory condition.

(emphasis added)

That doesn't sound exactly like "we cover OCing to the point of breakage" to me. Most companies consider overclocking to be a form of 'modification' of the hardware.

"* Lifetime Warranty is for all retail Graphics Card and Mainboard products ending in the part numbers AX, DX, or FX"

Can someone tell me if this card is a "AX,DX, or FX".

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?...-N515-AX&manufacture=eVGA&promoid=1030

Also do you guys think it is a good price.

Thanks everyone for the help.

 

[Yreka]

Here is a direct response from EVGA marketing stating the same thing.

 

[Yreka]

Originally posted by: necro007

"* Lifetime Warranty is for all retail Graphics Card and Mainboard products ending in the part numbers AX, DX, or FX"

Can someone tell me if this card is a "AX,DX, or FX".

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?...-N515-AX&manufacture=eVGA&promoid=1030

It's an "AX". It says so in the link N515-AX

 

[necro007]

Okay so EVGA does cover ocing.

Or doesn't it...

 

[necro007]

The guys says:

"Please see the following link for the answers to your questions, but basically as long as there is no physical damage to the card it will be covered under our warranty."

He says that the card will be covered (when or if someone oc's the card and does not phyically damage it) but on EVGAs ...

http://www.evga.com/support/lifetime/default.asp

They say nothing about what will hapen if someone where to oc a card.

Who is right.