Which CPU should i get?

[1Dark1Sharigan1]

Originally posted by: Ike0069

But it's obviously the best.

Best at what? The best overclocker is the DFI SLI-D/DR while the most stable board would probably be the Asus A8N Premium. Abit Fatal1ty is overpriced and doesn't really offer anything that can justify the $200 price tag . . .

Also if he's not gaming, SLI would be just a huge waste . . .

I would suggest BlizzardWolf that if you are not interested in overclocking that you save some money and get a MSI K8N Neo4-F with an Athlon 64 3200+ Venice . . . the 3700+ SA is good but not really worth the extra 100 dollars if you're not overclocking . . .

When I said the P4 3.0 was better at multimedia and encoding I only meant in the technical sense. But the real world applications would not see much of a difference between the two and a 3200+ Venice would not run nearly as hot as those 90nm Prescotts . . .

 

[BlizzardWolf]

Is an AMD 3200+ fast enough for me? I will not be playing games but I will be using the PC for photoshop, video-editing, word processing, downloading music and videos.

Also, I will be buillidng this myself,this is my first time

 

[birdpup]

Originally posted by: BlizzardWolf
can anyone find me a mobo compatible with AMD 3700+?

ABIT
ASUS A8N-E Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard for $114.
EPoX EP-9NPA
MSI K8N

The differences between the models tends to be in three areas:

• onboard sound
• SATA 150 or SATA II
• Firewire support

Only you know if these are needed for your system. I, for example, do not need 8 channel onboard sound, SATA II, or Firewire support.

 

[BlizzardWolf]

Is there any noticeable difference between the Venice 3000+, 3200+ and the 3500+ non-gaming wise?

can the 3200+ handle a lot of photoshop usage, videoediting, word processing, music downloading?

 

[Crescent13]

Originally posted by: BlizzardWolf
Is there any noticeable difference between the Venice 3000+, 3200+ and the 3500+ non-gaming wise?

can the 3200+ handle a lot of photoshop usage, videoediting, word processing, music downloading?

I have a 3200+ winchester, and it handels all that stuff (I do it too). but seriously, WHY DON'T YOU WANT TO OVERCLOCK?!?!?!?!?!?

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: Crescent13

Originally posted by: BlizzardWolf
Is there any noticeable difference between the Venice 3000+, 3200+ and the 3500+ non-gaming wise?

can the 3200+ handle a lot of photoshop usage, videoediting, word processing, music downloading?

I have a 3200+ winchester, and it handels all that stuff (I do it too). but seriously, WHY DON'T YOU WANT TO OVERCLOCK?!?!?!?!?!?

I don't overclock either, are you going to yell at me?

BlizzardWolf, a 3000+ AMD through a 3700+ AMD are all going to be fine for your purposes.

You could do everything you're planning with a processor half the speed.

The difference in speed between a 3000+ and 3700+ is not going to make any difference for everyday internet stuff.

Video encoding will go a bit quicker and long photoshop effects will be slightly faster.

 

[1Dark1Sharigan1]

Yeah the 3700+ and the 3200+ differ in speed by about 200Mhz and 512KB cache which won't make much of a difference at all, not even gaming . . . to me that's not worth the extra money especially if you're not gonna overclock . . .

As for encoding? Who spends that much time encoding anyway? Definitely not the average consumer or even the average gamer (I encode like once or twice a month). And if you did, you'd probably be in the market for an X2 . . .

 

[Googer]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819116198

 

[Googer]

Overclocking isn't really that hard, and you will get MUCH more for your money. I say get the highest you can with your money, if you can afford a 3700+, then get one. link

I would not recomend overclocking to some one who is not sure what they are doing. It just is not a good idea to toast brand new equipment when you are on a limited budget.

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: Crescent13

Originally posted by: BlizzardWolf
So basically there a six types possible

3200+ = Venice or Winchester

3500+ = Venice or Clawhammer

3700+ = San Diego or Clawhammer

Which one should i get?

Either get a Venice, or a San Deigo. Clawhammer and Winchester processors are old and outdated.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103529

 

[Skyhanger]

Might as well get a dell. If you are two left thumbs around computers, the warranty and tech support from DELL will save you a ton of headache.
At a budget of $1000, a dell and a homemade comp don't actually differ that much in performance. It's at higher prices (<$1500) when selecting components quality compoents at a cheap price that building yourself starts making choices flexible.

The hardest part of building the computer is research and choosing the parts. The construction itself is a piece of cake in comparison.

EDIT: Sorry, didn't see all the extra posts.

You either get a 3000+/3200+ or a 3800+X2

Extra clock speed will not help you w/ multimedia. Having an extra core will. If you get a 3800 X2, you may see a near 100% increase in performance in mutimedia. Getting a 3700+ over a 3200+ is more like a option for gamers to get extra performance.

Example rig:
Sonata II: $100 Steel case with 450W Power supply
BenQ 1640 DVD: $42 16x DVD-RW drive w/ 52x CD-RW
Seagate 160 $88 SATA 7200rpm HDD
3800+ X2 $346 Dual core @ 2.0GHz. It's pretty much 2x3200's
2x1Gb OCZ Value $205 2 Gigs of quality ram
EPox nF4 Ultra mb $98 Good, stable motherboard
eVGA 6800 GT $134 Cheapest one I can find. eVGA has a good reputation too
(shipping included)

Total $1013

Hmm... looks like I went a little over the total, but now you have a rig that will pretty much be a powerful at media. (Add to that, the case is quiet, perfect for movies)

However, do you still need OS software? that can throw your budget out of wack.

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: Skyhanger
Might as well get a dell. If you are two left thumbs around computers, the warranty and tech support from DELL will save you a ton of headache.
At a budget of $1000, a dell and a homemade comp don't actually differ that much in performance. It's at higher prices (<$1500) when selecting components quality compoents at a cheap price that building yourself starts making choices flexible.

The hardest part of building the computer is research and choosing the parts. The construction itself is a piece of cake in comparison.

EDIT: Sorry, didn't see all the extra posts.

You either get a 3000+/3200+ or a 3800+X2

Extra clock speed will not help you w/ multimedia. Having an extra core will. If you get a 3800 X2, you may see a near 100% increase in performance in mutimedia. Getting a 3700+ over a 3200+ is more like a option for gamers to get extra performance.

Example rig:
Sonata II: $100 Steel case with 450W Power supply
BenQ 1640 DVD: $42 16x DVD-RW drive w/ 52x CD-RW
Seagate 160 $88 SATA 7200rpm HDD
3800+ X2 $346 Dual core @ 2.0GHz. It's pretty much 2x3200's
2x1Gb OCZ Value $205 2 Gigs of quality ram
EPox nF4 Ultra mb $98 Good, stable motherboard
eVGA 6800 GT $134 Cheapest one I can find. eVGA has a good reputation too
(shipping included)

Total $1013

Hmm... looks like I went a little over the total, but now you have a rig that will pretty much be a powerful at media. (Add to that, the case is quiet, perfect for movies)

However, do you still need OS software? that can throw your budget out of wack.

I will second that, if you choose to go with a 3ghz Intel, then you might as well buy it from Dell. You will get more for the dollar (have not researched it though) plus the service a support that I am sure that you are going to need; because appearantly and politly speaking you have not got much of a clue on how to do something like select pc components.

Go DELL, for less than $1,000 you cannot beat them with a stick.

 

[Gadzookie]

Antec Solution SLK3000-B 49.00
FSP Group AX450-PN 450W 49.99

AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800 347.00
EPoX EP-9NPA+Ultra 105.00
CORSAIR ValueSelect 2 x 1GB 212.15
Maxtor DiamondMax 10 16MB 250GB 93.50
SAMSUNG 1.44MB 3.5" Floppy 7.99
NEC DVD Burner ND-3540A 39.98
SAPPHIRE Radeon X700 128MB 93.00

Total 997.61

you said you wanted only 1 gig but trust me with dual core you will want 2 gigs

also since you dont game a x700 should be good enough you can go with a 6600 TC


if you want the best multitasking processors the new amd dual cores are the way to go if you decide not to get the x3800 go back to INTEL DO not get the 3200 or the 3700 amd processors there more geared for gamers and are great chips but cannot multitask as well as there intel counterparts

so get a x2 3800 or if you must go intel get the 820 intel dual core

 

[Seeruk]

Seriously - the questions you are asking, the seeming complete and utter lack of knowledge of chipsets and so on means you REALLY SHOULD GO AND BUY A DELL!!!!!

You are gonna spend $1000 on this stuff and I guarantee you are gonna bust it putting it together (thats if you even manage to order the right parts).

I know I sound offensive but I am just trying to get the message across.

DO YOURSELF AND YOUR WALLET A FAVOUR AND GO BUY A DELL

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