YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Moderator<br>A/V & Home Theater<br>Elite member
Go to Tom's Hardware and look up their CPU charts.
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Which CPU should i get?
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Go to Tom's Hardware and look up their CPU charts.
BlizzardWolf
Member
Uhh, so AMD sucks at multimedia apps and encoding?1? 🙁
Crescent13
Diamond Member
AMD doesn't suck at multimedia apps, like jello said, go to tomshardware and look up the CPU charts.
BlizzardWolf
Member
I went there but i cant find any cpu charts 🙁
Crescent13
Diamond Member
AMD currently has the more advanced, innovative, energy efficient, and (most of the time) faster processors than Intel.
Currently Intel is sold in the major pre-built systems because of its strength in manipulating the market, not because of its superiority over AMD.
As RKS alluded to above, it is a lot of work to build your own system. You need to be prepared to read a lot of articles on system components. It is well worth the effort to do this and people here would be very willing to help guide you in what to read. For starters, people are expected to have read the current articles and reviews provided by Anandtech. Read through many and find those which interest you. Maybe you like video cards because it helps you with games. Maybe you prefer linux because it deals with open source software, which will help you develop software and perform better in your programming classes. Maybe you prefer linux because it will help you learn how to administer systems. It would be good to become very familiar with the recent articles within the relevent tabs at the top of the page.
Some good ones:
If you are genuinely interested in this material, you will want to continue reading more of these articles. Follow your interests and ask for help if you get stuck or confused. We will gladly help and we all understand how confusing computers can be.
It would be best for you if you were to learn how to build a system and then build your own system. It would be a great learning opportunity that will help you further down the road in anything else you do. It will require time but can be very satisfying and fun.
Read through the following site for more information on building your own system.
www.mechBgon.com
A good recommendation would be:
You can read more about power supplies here: PSU 101.
Total Cost is:
Currently Intel is sold in the major pre-built systems because of its strength in manipulating the market, not because of its superiority over AMD.
As RKS alluded to above, it is a lot of work to build your own system. You need to be prepared to read a lot of articles on system components. It is well worth the effort to do this and people here would be very willing to help guide you in what to read. For starters, people are expected to have read the current articles and reviews provided by Anandtech. Read through many and find those which interest you. Maybe you like video cards because it helps you with games. Maybe you prefer linux because it deals with open source software, which will help you develop software and perform better in your programming classes. Maybe you prefer linux because it will help you learn how to administer systems. It would be good to become very familiar with the recent articles within the relevent tabs at the top of the page.
Some good ones:
- Guides,
- CPU/Chipset,
- Motherboards,
- Memory,
- Video,
- Storage,
- Cases/Cooling, and
- Displays.
If you are genuinely interested in this material, you will want to continue reading more of these articles. Follow your interests and ask for help if you get stuck or confused. We will gladly help and we all understand how confusing computers can be.
It would be best for you if you were to learn how to build a system and then build your own system. It would be a great learning opportunity that will help you further down the road in anything else you do. It will require time but can be very satisfying and fun.
Read through the following site for more information on building your own system.
www.mechBgon.com
A good recommendation would be:
- CPU: AMD64 3200+ for $133. The 3200+ is a better choice than the 3000+ since its 10x multiplier will allow it to reach higher overclocked speeds at a 5:6 memory divider. Anything higher than a 3200+ is too much since the 3200+ can reach the top overclocking speeds without the need to purchase more expensive cpu's.
- Motherboard: Abit, Asus, DFI, Epox, MSI; with nForce4 or VIA chipset. The VIA chipset would be best only if you wish to work with Unix: Sun Solaris, FreeBSD, or any other "alternative" operating system, otherwise it would be best to obtain a motherboard with an nForce4 northbridge chipset. The nForce4 chipset has very good drivers for both MS Windows and Linux. Do not get an SLI MB since they are expensive and two video cards are not necessary for the cost. I recommend the ASUS A8N-E Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard for $114.
- Chipset Cooler: Zalman ZM-NB47J Northbridge Cooler Retail for $11. This silent cooler will replace the noisy chipset fan and is a good thing to install before you install the motherboard. The chipset fans are typically annoyingly loud and the Asus chipset fans are known to be the loudest of them.
- Memory: Patriot Signature Series 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model PSD1G400K for $86 -$5 rebate. This is the memory I am using, Patriot 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model PDC1G3200LLK for $130. If you look at the offerings for any one manufacturer, you will notice there are typically three steps to the DDR400 PC3200 RAM offerings. Low, medium, and high. I prefer the medium since it offers good performance without an excessively high markup in price.
- Storage: Seagate Barracuda 7200.8 ST3250823A 250GB 7200 RPM IDE Ultra ATA100 Hard Drive an IDE for $111 or a SATA Seagate Barracuda 7200.8 ST3250823AS 250GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive also for $111.
- Heatsink/Fan: THERMALRIGHT SI-120 High Performance Heatsink for $52. This is probably the best heatsink in case you live in a warm climate and is definitely expensive, so you may desire something less expensive and can check Zalman and ThermalTake. I use this, Thermaltake CL-P0006 Cooling Fan/Heatsink for $43. It is almost as efficient as the ThermalRight and is probably a little louder but it works very well and is cheaper. Take a look at this site, http://www.svc.com/thermalright-cpu.html, they seem to have very good prices for heatsinks.
- Video 0:]/b] CHAINTECH Geforce 6200 SE6200/128 Video Card for $89.
[*]Video 1: ASUS EN6600/TD/128 Geforce 6600 128MB DDR PCI Express x16 Video Card for $112.
[*]Video 2: ASUS EN6600GT/TD/128 Geforce 6600GT 128MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card for $180.
[*]Video 3: ASUS EAX800/TD/128M Radeon X800 128MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card for $191.
[*]DVD Burner: NEC Black IDE DVD Burner Model ND-3540A for $39 or NEC Beige IDE DVD Burner Model ND-3540A Beige for $40.
[*]Case & PSU: Enlight EN-7250-OXZ Beige Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 350W Power Supply for $77.
This is the case I use. It has a 20 pin power connector to the motherboard and the motherboard has a 24 pin connector but I have safely put the 20 pin connector into the 24 pin connector and the system runs perfectly fine. This is just a suggestion, you can use whatever you prefer. This model is available if you prefer black. Enlight EN-7250-AL9 Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 350W Power Supply for $74.
You can read more about power supplies here: PSU 101.
Total Cost is:
- As little as: $133 + $114 + $11 + $86 + $111 + $43 + $89 + $40 + $77 = $704
- or as great as: $133 + $114 + $11 + $126 + $111 + $52 + $191 + $40 + $77 = $855
1Dark1Sharigan1
Golden Member
No, AMD doesn't suck but simply that a Intel P4 3.0 would be faster than a 3000+ when it comes to encoding and multimedia . . .
BlizzardWolf
Member
what do you mean by encoding and multimedia? Like watching dvds, or video editing?
Do not worry about this minor difference. They both perform extremely well and the difference between them is minor. Additionally, the AMD cpu will consume much less electricity than the Intel and allows faster and more efficient communication with the RAM memory due to its onboard memory controller. This is a great benefit for overclocking the system.
BlizzardWolf
Member
But i'm not going to overclock... I need a processor that's the best for non-gaming purposes
Seeing as my basic recommendation pushes the price up to $730, it seems that is the best you can do for around $700. You can pay more money for a processor that is preset at a faster speed, you can overclock the processor yourself, or you can live with the 2GHz clock speed of the 3200+ processor. That is your choice. I believe the processor is plenty fast enough without overclocking and eventually, when you are comfortable with your system, you will probably desire to see if you can overclock it. The learning experience is well worth it and by the time you get around to overclocking your system, in about a year or two I would guess, cpu prices will have decreased and you could easily purchase a new cpu should you burn up your 3200+. Most people do not damage their cpu though, so do not be afraid of this.
By the way, I just edited my above recommendation to include a cheaper heatsink and a DVD burner. You can probably obtain a better or cheaper case for your purposes. That is my weak area.
EDIT: I have a 3000+ overclocked to 2400GHz and it is plenty fast for me. I think you will like the 3200+ very much. It is also currently the cheapest processor for its class.
EDIT2: I do not use my system for gaming purposes. In fact, I never touch the games. The 3000+ is fast enough and a 3200+ will do very well for you. Additionally, if you wish to save money and since you are not going to play games, you do not need the 6600 video card. I use a 6200 video card and I think a 5200 would suit my non-gaming needs just fine.
This video card may be better for you:
CHAINTECH Geforce 6200 SE6200/128 Video Card for $89.
BlizzardWolf
Member
SHould i get a AMD 3700+ San Diego instead? Is it equivalent to the 3.0ghz intel?
I can see you are worried about this. There is no need. AMD currently has better (ie. faster and more efficient) processors than Intel. AMD's clock cycle speed is slower than Intel's but AMD has more instructions per clock cycle than Intel does. Additionally, AMD's cpu pipeline is much shorter than Intel's and this allows the cpu to perform better for varying tasks since it can switch processes faster.
Currently, it is possible to purchase the 3200+ for an incredibly low price of $133 at ewiz. The 3700+ can be purchased for $268 at NewEgg.
3200+ Venice
- $133
- Operating Frequency: 2.0GHz
- L2 Cache: 512KB
3700+ Venice
- $268
- Operating Frequency: 2.2GHz
- L2 Cache: 1024KB = 1MB
There is an operational difference between the two cpu's but it is minimal for the extra $135. If this cost is easily paid for an extra 200MHz and 512KB L2 cache, then go ahead and purchase it. Both of these processors are equivalent to an Intel 3.0GHz cpu and both AMD processors are very good. I am sure you will be happy with either purchase.
therawuncut
Junior Member
I would stop comparing AMD 64-bit CPUs to 3.0ghz intel. You've got $1000. Make the most of it with a kick-arse AMD CPU, 2 gigs of low latency mem, and a good PSU and vid card. You can't go wrong. Well, most people cant.
BlizzardWolf
Member
I don't have that much money to spend.
BlizzardWolf
Member
can anyone find me a mobo compatible with AMD 3700+?
BlizzardWolf
Member
are you trying to make me broke? That is $202!
BlizzardWolf
Member
How is this one? It's pretty cheap, is it good and is it compatible with AMD 3700+?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813130514
or how bout this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131530
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813130514
or how bout this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131530
I dont understand. Your budget is 1000 and they have put specs up for 750ish.. The cost diffrence by swaping out an X2 (the best chip for what you want to do) will not put you over 1k. The 3700+ will not give you as much of a performance boost with encoding.
Also, no offence. Who is building this? It is apperent with your question about cpu sockets that you do not have much experiance with building a computer. Thus, I would suggest buying a dell or store bought system that will do what you want with minimal building requirements.
PKing
Also, no offence. Who is building this? It is apperent with your question about cpu sockets that you do not have much experiance with building a computer. Thus, I would suggest buying a dell or store bought system that will do what you want with minimal building requirements.
PKing
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