Which Country Should I Move To?

[schneiderguy]

It really is, I don't have to pay $200 to use an ambulance, or pay for some absurd health insurance. It's just free, as it should be.

You're paying for it with your taxes.

 

[HAL9000]

You're paying for it with your taxes.

Yep I pay like 2p on a chocolate bar every so often and a small part of my pay (I get taxed 20&#37 and as a result I don't have to deal with insurance companies that don't want to pay for things, or pay for ambulance rides etc etc etc. It's pretty good, also I don't have to pay much for uni, whereas I believe in the US you can pay like $100,000 sometimes, fucking mental. Cambridge is £3,000 per year, as it should be.

Scratch that chocolate doesn't count on VAT, other things, like petrol does.

 

[Brigandier]

Yep I pay like 2p on a chocolate bar every so often and a small part of my pay (I get taxed 20%) and as a result I don't have to deal with insurance companies that don't want to pay for things, or pay for ambulance rides etc etc etc. It's pretty good, also I don't have to pay much for uni, whereas I believe in the US you can pay like $100,000 sometimes, fucking mental. Cambridge is £3,000 per year, as it should be.

Yeah, but!


Wait, what? Average tax payers get something out of paying taxes? That sounds communist to me.

 

[HAL9000]

Yeah, but!


Wait, what? Average tax payers get something out of paying taxes? That sounds communist to me.

Bizarre isn't it, when I pay my taxes there is some immediate value to me for that. Could you imagine a world like that?! Where if you break your leg you go to hospital, then come home with a cast after giving the Doctor a thank you and that's all.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Go to New Zealand. My son in-law is a kiwi and says they're screaming for qualified computer folks. Apparently, they're an entire generation behind the U.S. He does server apps and is doing quite well.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

Yep I pay like 2p on a chocolate bar every so often and a small part of my pay (I get taxed 20&#37 and as a result I don't have to deal with insurance companies that don't want to pay for things, or pay for ambulance rides etc etc etc. It's pretty good, also I don't have to pay much for uni, whereas I believe in the US you can pay like $100,000 sometimes, fucking mental. Cambridge is £3,000 per year, as it should be.

Scratch that chocolate doesn't count on VAT, other things, like petrol does.

And get the government to tell you what services you can access; no matter how much you are willing to pay out of pocket for a better or longer life.

And the best endup where they can receive fair market compensation for their abilities (the US)

I would rather go bankrupt and live because people where properly incentivized to do the medical job I need than have medicine for free for most but die because the margined doctor I needed wasn't paid enough to justify him being a stressed neuro surgeon instead of an easy going dermatologist.

 

[HAL9000]

And get the government to tell you what defaces you can access; no matter how much you are willing to pay out of pocket for a better oe longer life.

And the best endup where they can receive fair market compensation for their abilities (the US)

I would rather go bankrupt and live because people where properly incentivized to do the medical job I need than have medicine for free for most but die.

This isn't the case. If you want to pay more, go private. You still have that option, we have private health care for those who want it, private education, for those who want it, there's no downside.

 

[Brigandier]

Bizarre isn't it, when I pay my taxes there is some immediate value to me for that. Could you imagine a world like that?! Where if you break your leg you go to hospital, then come home with a cast after giving the Doctor a thank you and that's all.

You're talking to one of the uninsured, so no, I don't know that. I break my leg, I hobble in the woods looking for sticks to make a splint and try to tough it out so I don't go further in debt.

 

[HAL9000]

You're talking to one of the uninsured, so no, I don't know that. I break my leg, I hobble in the woods looking for sticks to make a splint and try to tough it out so I don't go further in debt.

That sucks, if it happens, hop on a plane, come over here. We will sort it out, free.

 

[Bignate603]

Somehow this thread has devolved into Neckarb vs. the world about how awesome England is. Personally, knowing that he's there is about all the reason I need to avoid the whole country.

To the OP, you're underestimating how hard it will be to find a job and legally emigrate from the US to another country. You can't just waltz into another country and work, at least not in most countries that you'll actually want to live in. Often the easiest way to get in is to find a job that wants you and will sponsor to get you through all the immigration stuff. Because there's a huge hassle for the company to go through the immigration red tape they're really only going to want to do it for people that have skills they can't locate inside their own country.

 

[HAL9000]

Somehow this thread has devolved into Neckarb vs. the world about how awesome England is. Personally, knowing that he's there is about all the reason I need to avoid the whole country.

Bizarre isn't it, I suggest the UK then people start hurling insults at me and the thread derails... Happens all the time.

 

[Brigandier]

That sucks, if it happens, hop on a plane, come over here. We will sort it out, free.

Are you supporting illegal immigration? I would totally take yer jobs if allowed in the country.

 

[HAL9000]

Are you supporting illegal immigration? I would totally take yer jobs if allowed in the country.

It's not illegal, you could easily get a visa and come over here. Just don't stay We want our jobs and our health care, but if we can help you out in your hour of need, I'm ok with that.

 

[DaWhim]

let's be realistic here, what make u think you can just move to another country? because you are an american? you have a master degree? that's a dime a dozen.

maybe you can try canada, it is the easiest for you as an american.

for UK, i doubt it. the UK gov't doesn't want anymore immigrants. they do have a high skilled program, but I don't think you qualify for it even with a master degree unless you can show them you made more than GBP25k a year before . they want phd.

australia should be easy, they need high skilled and do have a point system.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

This isn't the case. If you want to pay more, go private. You still have that option, we have private health care for those who want it, private education, for those who want it, there's no downside.

But the maginal availability of the specialist is reduced by government control of the general price paid for the service.

 

[HAL9000]

But the maginal availability of the specialist is reduced by government control of the general price paid for the service.

It works.

There are enough specialists in a given field to go round the NHS and private hospitals/ clinics.

 

[MotionMan]

The U.S. economy is awful. I will graduate from my masters degree in computer and information systems in May 2012. Plenty of other countries are doing much better even though they never passed a trillion dollar stimulus. Which country should I move to?

Anywhere but California.

Stay out of California!

MotionMan

 

[Born2bwire]

Be a true Patriout. Go to China. Earn back your money and send it to the US. Do your part to correct the balance of trade.

 

[JMapleton]

Hong Kong

 

[Mike Gayner]

Forbs has new z land as the best country in the world to live.

Link?

 

[WildHorse]

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[ThatsABigOne]

I would move back to my home country, Belarus. Minsk is a great city, lively, and always 'on'. nothing like US with fatasses with burgers.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

I would move back to my home country, Belarus. Minsk is a great city, lively, and always 'on'. nothing like US with fatasses with burgers.

That reminds me, go fuck yourself... because I am fat, and American, and love burgers... and now sad because of what you said.

:Mike Gayner
I can not find the link; This is because I am a lying sack of crap that makes things up.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Don't you need to like, have a job lined up in a country before you can even have a chance of them allowing you to immigrate there?

If so, I'd say first step might be to see where you can actually get job offers, then go from there.

edit: But between those, I'd say Canada.

Correct. He'll need to get a company to sponsor him in order to get a working visa. Unfortunately, his education didn't teach him that important point.

 

[preslove]

And get the government to tell you what services you can access; no matter how much you are willing to pay out of pocket for a better or longer life.

And the best endup where they can receive fair market compensation for their abilities (the US)

I would rather go bankrupt and live because people where properly incentivized to do the medical job I need than have medicine for free for most but die because the margined doctor I needed wasn't paid enough to justify him being a stressed neuro surgeon instead of an easy going dermatologist.

Europe has better medical outcomes than the USA. Unless you're rich enough to go to the mayo clinic, you're much better off getting care in Western Europe than the US.

Oh, and we spend about twice as much, per capita as the next country on the medical field.