Which animal has the strongest bite pressure?

[pontifex]

No I asked which animal or any living thing has the strongest bite, and if any one could shine a light on...SCIENCE...that proves so, I think alot of things can be debunkable like the aligator snapping turtle, its not much of his force but his sharpness that severs things pounds of force is not ment to sever, its made to crush, smash and hold things, even hippos are debunkable, its the force that crushes things its the fact its much larger than most canines that peirce deeper and wider wounds.

Again there is no science in your links, none of these people have any credentials via scientific back grounds that has been accepted and published. I know tons of living things that would just smoke the lion, I was just saying out of mammals the lion has a stronger bite than tigers, bears jaguars or whatever other. You didnt bring any science and already you're throwing a fit.

so where is your science? what credentials do you have?

 

[stormkroe]

Of course it is. DON'T YOU KNOW PSI IS JUST A GUAGE[sic]?

Isn't PSI an adopted trade name from an old brand of newtons? You know, like how every tissue gets called a kleenex?()
http://www.pinterest.com/pin/create/extension/

 

[BurnItDwn]

Mustard tigers or cavemen probably. However, sadly, we will never know due to the extinction of the mustard tiger

 

[Ruptga]

I'll take C, none of the above. Keep fighting the good fight and implying implications though. The lions shall rise again!

 

[Silver Prime]

I don't give enough fucks to give it more than a casual skim, but it looks like this debate shows pretty well that tiger > lion in every bite strength test:
http://animalsversesanimals.yuku.com/topic/3803/Prove-that-tigers-have-the-stronger-bite-force

lol You use one of the biggest phoney sites out there, yuku? The site owner has basically 100 aliases on that site, he was so owned by the over whelming evidence in all catagories of Lion > tiger, he shut his site down. Those are just estimates upon limited skull sizes (out dated ones at that), yet in more modern research, tigers have been found to have bigger cranial volumes:

http://www.ox.ac.uk/media/news_stories/2009/090903.html

A bigger brain, but at the cost the inside of his head is more hollow, thats the difference of having a more dense rod of a cro-bar (lion) hitting you in the head, and a hollow rod (tiger) hitting you in the head...the lions will be much harder...not only on that, but why would a tiger fanatic tell you the most heavist lion weight? They all lie that the most heaviest lion skull was of 1.840 kg. lol I can easily find lion skulls much heavier than that:


2.155 kg owner Col. A. Paget
2.211 kg owner Hon. W. Guinness
2.268 kg owner H.R.H. the Duke of Connaught
2.268 kg owner C.C. Branch
2.268 kg owner J.J. Venning
2.268 kg owner E. Gedge
2.353 kg owner Capt. M. Kincaid-Smith
2.353 kg owner Capt. R.A.J. Montgomerie, R.N.
2.495 kg owner F.C. Selous
2.722 kg owner J. Lamont (owner's measurements)
2.948 kg owner Hon. C.G. Murray


The lion is the bigger animal on average any way, rare exceptionals dont reflect average weights, the fatest 1,320 lb man doesnt reflect of the human average. Lions are bigger animals compared to tigers as a species by over 15kg.

so where is your science? what credentials do you have?

All you had to do was ask bro...Accepted by science peers of Biology and Geology, awareded for 2010's world break throughs of evolution and actual measurments showed the lion has the hardest bite (atleast for mammals) :

http://books.google.com/books?id=7o...a=X&ei=tWMSVLSVJsy1yATJuYGoAQ&ved=0CBYQ6AEwCA

Why would the jaguar or tiger need to have a harder bite? Turtles and crocs??? Lions eat that too, but they dont eat hippos because where they live there arnt any. They dont need to crush or hold anything larger than 2,000 Kg normally...lions attack and kill hippos rutinely, the famous lion Notch and his sons killed countless of hippos, the suvati ride also rutinely killed elephants. Like the other linked showed of Gorillas neck muscles? lol What leaves do gorillas eat require a 1,000 pound of pressure. Ha ha ha Neck muscles have little to do with biting force, its the skulls and the adaptation for it.

 

[dank69]

I assume all these bite pressures have actually been measured. I'd take that data over your theoreticals every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

 

[schneiderguy]

BoomerD :$

 

[dr150]

T-REX

 

[Silver Prime]

I assume all these bite pressures have actually been measured. I'd take that data over your theoreticals every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

The yuku sites chart says in the fine print, (estimates) the most recent one I showed was (measured). But you can belive in anything you want. Ruptga, spoke too soon eh mate? The lion will rise again? The lion has always been on the top bro, some proven facts:

* The most powerful bite in the mammal world.
* The hardest paw striking force carnivore on the planet.
* The largest frontal circumference of any land predator
* The most powerful roar of the carnivorians.
* The largest land mass ruled in more places.
* The most explosive apex predator on the planet.
* The most endurance of any large carnivore.
* The record for bringing down the largest land animal on the planet.
* The most durable protecting factor in the two vital areas amongs any predator.
* The most fighting experince amongs all carnivoras.
* The most elite fighting back up through out any apex predator via pride.


All proven facts. But this thread is about bite pressure and what people think (or more accurately) can prove has the strongest biting pressure, as for living things, I'm still sticking with Killer whale.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

A PSI is just a "guage"(?) but a newton is fruit and cake!

 

[Blackjack200]

I heard that scientists have discovered that Lions have the largest vaginas in the animal kingdom. Makes sense as they are essentially huge pussies.

 

[JulesMaximus]

I have an even better question: Who gives a fuck?

 

[LevelSea]

I don't give enough fucks to give it more than a casual skim, but it looks like this debate shows pretty well that tiger > lion in every bite strength test:
http://animalsversesanimals.yuku.com/topic/3803/Prove-that-tigers-have-the-stronger-bite-force

Heres another series of direct competition between Lions and Bengal Tigers. Don't look so good with a 3-8 record.
2013/10/20 L
2009/12/06 L
2005/12/18 L
2001/10/28 L
1998/09/13 L
1992/11/22 W
1989/11/19 L
1986/11/02 L
1983/12/11 L
1974/12/08 W
1970/09/27 W

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

A lyøn ønce bit mi sistër.

Mynd yøu, lyøn byts kan be pretti deadli.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

I heard that scientists have discovered that Lions have the largest vaginas in the animal kingdom. Makes sense as they are essentially huge pussies.

Dis da truf.

 

[Silver Prime]

I've always heard that the jaguar has the highest bite force out of all the big cats.

I always heard that too, but based on the old science, they based things off of what typical things they ate, jaguars kill more crocodillians via caimans than any other panthera, and they also aim for the skull too. This was probably why they thought the jaguar bit harder, the same with the hyena, as they are seen eating bones and all...but bones are brittle depending on how dried up they are, hyenas are scavangers so they cant afford to waste anything anyway, male lions dont scavange as much, if they cant hunt they'll just steal your fresh kill.

I think its mostly on what they are pre-programed to eat in which will highlight why he will bite so hard. Alligators and crocs no dought have the strongest bites, dont see how a crocs skull will be harder as its snout is longer and thiner, the gators (atleast large ones) have very stocky like wider skulls and snouts, so a smaller gator will bite harder than a heavier croc, at max the gator should take it. Same goes with kodiak bears, I think the reason why the lion bites harder even though the bears mass is much heavier, the lions muzzle is alot bigger, the bears skull at max is heavier and wider, but the lions jaws is equiped with a bigger muzzle and bigger canines...the tigers canines (atleast its fangs ) being longer would break more easier.

Had to laugh at the brown bear illustration saying a bear can crush a bowling ball in one bite...if any animal would bite a bowling ball, their teeth would shatter and blow up long before the pressure takes full effect.

 

[smackababy]

Isn't PSI an adopted trade name from an old brand of newtons? You know, like how every tissue gets called a kleenex?()
http://www.pinterest.com/pin/create/extension/

No, they had to change it from Fig Psis to Fig Newtons because the first was too hard to say.

 

[Scarpozzi]

Honey Badger!

 

[DrPizza]

No I asked which animal or any living thing has the strongest bite, and if any one could shine a light on...SCIENCE...that proves so,...

No, you didn't. It's right in the thread title. "Which animal has the strongest bite pressure." How do you expect us to answer your question to your satisfaction, if you don't even understand your own question??

But, to answer YOUR question, and without googling, I suspect the winner is the trap jaw ant.

 

[Silver Prime]

No, they had to change it from Fig Psis to Fig Newtons because the first was too hard to say.

Most people don't even know what PSI means, it just means: Per Square Inch...if it was just 600 psi, that would mean 600 square inches, that doesnt even make any sense and would protain to radius, the actual pressure is coded by Newtons.

In this case the link the other guy showed the tiger biting at around 2,000 newtons, you can type that in on a Newton = Pound converter:

http://www.convertunits.com/from/newtons/to/pounds

You'd get the siberian tiger at almost 500 lbs of pressure, as the link I showed which is published in 2010 only a few years ago, (now that we have this new technology) the lion as stated (not estimated) but measured, was a little above 4,000 newtons, which if you type that in you get almost a 1,000 lbs of pressure, thats double that of the tigers bite...again all those sites just google imaged the photos to make it appear they know what they're talking about and then put in phoney random numbers or from sources where it wasnt accepted, agknowledged or publish by science, my source was awarded so, theres no mentioning of any chart thats measured, only estimates, and as we see, the estimates of the lion having 600 psi (WTF is PSI) if they're saying PSI is pounds, then thats a way off point made...which of course it came from the animal planet/ discover channel 3-D rendering...3-D makes it...not real, which makes it estimates, you need real animals tested.

In this day and age you cant just say something and publish it without it being fact checked by your peers in biology at universitys, he was awarded the worlds top natrualist of america and has a Ph.D in Geology and Biology which is backed by tested science.


Bite force: Lion>tiger

 

[smackababy]

Most people don't even know what PSI means, it just means: Per Square Inch...if it was just 600 psi, that would mean 600 square inches, that doesnt even make any sense and would protain to radius, the actual pressure is coded by Newtons.

In this case the link the other guy showed the tiger biting at around 2,000 newtons, you can type that in on a Newton = Pound converter:

http://www.convertunits.com/from/newtons/to/pounds

You'd get the siberian tiger at almost 500 lbs of pressure, as the link I showed which is published in 2010 only a few years ago, (now that we have this new technology) the lion as stated (not estimated) but measured, was a little above 4,000 newtons, which if you type that in you get almost a 1,000 lbs of pressure, thats double that of the tigers bite...again all those sites just google imaged the photos to make it appear they know what they're talking about and then put in phoney random numbers or from sources where it wasnt accepted, agknowledged or publish by science, my source was awarded so, theres no mentioning of any chart thats measured, only estimates, and as we see, the estimates of the lion having 600 psi (WTF is PSI) if they're saying PSI is pounds, then thats a way off point made...which of course it came from the animal planet/ discover channel 3-D rendering...3-D makes it...not real, which makes it estimates, you need real animals tested.

In this day and age you cant just say something and publish it without it being fact checked by your peers in biology at universitys, he was awarded the worlds top natrualist of america and has a Ph.D in Geology and Biology which is backed by tested science.


Bite force: Lion>tiger

For starters, if you are going to say people don't know what PSI means, you had better know what it actually means. It is pound-force per square inch, not per square inch.

Second, lions are fucking shit. They are trash on the apex predator list. Stop deluding yourself into some "I like lions and they have to be the best!" garbage.

 

[DrPizza]

Most people don't even know what PSI means, it just means: Per Square Inch...if it was just 600 psi, that would mean 600 square inches, that doesnt even make any sense and would protain to radius, the actual pressure is coded by Newtons.

Most intelligent people posting online, when being told they are wrong, would take the opportunity of being able to use Google prior to responding to such an accusation. Had you googled it, you would have found that your intuition in this case is unfortunately wrong. PSI stands for Pounds (force) per Square Inch.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pounds_per_square_inch

600PSI, or 600 pounds per square inch would represent a pressure that could be 600 pounds applied to 1 square inch, or 1200 pounds applied to 2 square inches, etc. A car tire may be pressurized at 32 pounds per square inch. Let's say you have a 3200 pound car. If those tires are at 32 pounds per square inch, it would take 100 square inches to support the weight of the car. If you measure the size of the tire patch (that is, the flat portion of the tires against the ground), you'll find that each is roughly 25 square inches, for a total of 100 square inches. In fact, you can come up with a rough estimate of the weight of a car by knowing the pressure of the tires, and the area of rubber in contact with the ground. Semi-trailers with cargo are hauling a lot of weight. Consequently, the tires have to be at a much higher pressure (psi) to limit the amount of deformation that occurs in the tire. Typical is about 100psi for the semi tires under the trailer and I think about 110psi for the steering tires.


edit: now, what's important to realize: my road bike tires are at about 100PSI. That is, the pressure in those tires is roughly 3 times the pressure in a car tire. When I'm riding down the road, the pressure my bike tires exert against the road is 3 times more than the pressure a car tire exerts. BUT, the force of the car tire, is, of course, much higher, because the car weighs so much more.

 

[Silver Prime]

For starters, if you are going to say people don't know what PSI means, you had better know what it actually means. It is pound-force per square inch, not per square inch.

Second, lions are fucking shit. They are trash on the apex predator list. Stop deluding yourself into some "I like lions and they have to be the best!" garbage.

Its called PPSI now??? lol Trash? Thats whats coming out of that whole in your mouth, grabage, via shit. Whats next you'll go quoteing wikipedia?

Hah ah ah ha. You show no facts, estimates are trumped by actual measurements performed...whats the credentials of all of the sources, blogs, forums? Ha! Mines comes from the direct book.
GTFO of here.

 

[LevelSea]

Most people don't even know what PSI means, it just means: Per Square Inch.

I'm embarrassed for you.

 

[Silver Prime]

lol and you wiki'd it.

XD XD XD

lol No it says the lion has the most powerful bite of the mammals not the tiger even though right below it, it sayed the tiger was bigger in mass.

A phoney mod for a forum just read wiki and disputed a Ph.d and award winning scientist testing and scientific proof?

Go right a book about it then genius, I'll be sure to pick it up in the fictional section. Ha ha ha ha ha