Which animal has the strongest bite pressure?

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stormkroe

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Most people don't even know what PSI means, it just means:per*Square*Inch

Those same people always misquote their car's efficiency. Listen idiots it's, "Means: Per Gallon".
 

DrPizza

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Its called PPSI
Hah ah ah ha. You show no facts, estimates are trumped by actual measurements performed...whats the credentials of all of the sources, blogs, forums? Ha! Mines comes from the direct book.
GTFO of here.

Feel free to search yourself. My numbers also come from actual measurements being performed. Trap jaw ants have a much higher bite pressure than your pathetic little lions.

Why do I sometimes suspect that you're one of those furries? You used to wear a gorilla costume, hence "silver prime" - now you run around wearing a lion costume, complete with an "attachable" tail?
 

smackababy

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Its called PPSI now??? lol Trash? Thats whats coming out of that whole in your mouth, grabage, via shit. Whats next you'll go quoteing wikipedia?

Hah ah ah ha. You show no facts, estimates are trumped by actual measurements performed...whats the credentials of all of the sources, blogs, forums? Ha! Mines comes from the direct book.
GTFO of here.

I don't have to quote wikipedia, because I took physics in high school. It is clear, you're either a massive idiot or still in pre-Algebra.
 

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Silver Prime

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Feel free to search yourself. My numbers also come from actual measurements being performed. Trap jaw ants have a much higher bite pressure than your pathetic little lions.

Why do I sometimes suspect that you're one of those furries? You used to wear a gorilla costume, hence "silver prime" - now you run around wearing a lion costume, complete with an "attachable" tail?

Research what...A phoney site? The only thing pathetic is your argument. Lets see here...

Phoney Mod: makes up his own statistics, uses wiki a full of shit site, and than claims to have disputed real science.

Phd: tested animals, had accepted at universitys, awarded for his findings.


Hmmmm...I think I'll go with option number two via Real science, not Pusedo science. lol


Wikipedia, the site where any one can write anything without being a accepted through scientific academies, lol thats why you have every white lie you can find through out it, wiki it states in 1909 a male tiger killed a male lion...hmmmm exactly where in the actual article here does it say the lion was killed:

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http://images.yuku.com.s3.amazonaws.com/image/jpeg/1c616f431a4d935e426ac81f22155554f260f080.jpg
Maybe the lion couldent deliver a death grip because the tiger had a fucking chain around his throat:
http://books.google.com/books?id=CU...a=X&ei=DPsZVKLJJMvpoATq14CIBw&ved=0CAgQ6AEwAQ

Ahhhha hah a ha, you can go get facts where? Wiki...the site that says the siberian tiger is the largest, and has a huge weight factor over a lion...yeah I think I'll do my own research on that from credible people:

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Only two siberian tigers exceeded 200kg, the absolute last male tiger they weighed if the WCS team was 140 kg, the very last male lion weighed young at 3 years old was 234 kg:

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http://www.africadreamsafaris.com/blog/?p=18361


So how is it that the siberian tiger would ever bite harder with your phoney fucking 1,200 psi rants when his average mass is below 190 kg? When a young lion can easily get past that weight and yet bite with less pressure even though his skull is bigger and has less cranial volume?…and hmmmm why is it that wiki has never mentioned the hundreds of times lions have killed male tigers or multiple tigers at once, or that a trainer (clyde beatty) lost 50 tigers killed by his lions in his 40 year career?

Ohh because if its on wiki, then you can say what ever you want and its the god given truth, Ph.d's in the real world of science dont count, actual observations dont count, reliable newspaper archives arnt real, masters degree historians dont know anything.


Pathetic? Lets have a trade off, I'll let the trap jaw ant bite me, in return post a video of you getting bitten by a lion, ya wanka.




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Silver Prime

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lol Check out ruptga, in cogneto with his viewing subscribed threads via my thread. Ha ha ha, he must be like, come on everyone, say more things about Prime so I can ride the bandwagon of my previous beat down in leopard vs tiger, his waiting reaction for trolls:

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Most people still dont know what PSI stands for or protains to, the main argument is where are the credentials that they've tested the psi, or pounds, or newtons or any other science method? As shown in the first tiger psi link on yuku they were estimates based on limited skull dimensions and mass, not actual measurements like Dr. Brady barr with scientific instruments.

And for you trolls, troll on bro...troll on. Sink in there with the butt hurt (literally) ruptga and the trap jaw ant from Ph.d Phoney Mod.

XD


Again, STOP with the moderator call outs. Please learn our rules and abide by them. You are on thin ice as it is.

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dank69

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Most people don't even know what PSI means, it just means: Per Square Inch...if it was just 600 psi, that would mean 600 square inches, that doesnt even make any sense and would protain to radius, the actual pressure is coded by Newtons.

In this case the link the other guy showed the tiger biting at around 2,000 newtons, you can type that in on a Newton = Pound converter:

http://www.convertunits.com/from/newtons/to/pounds

You'd get the siberian tiger at almost 500 lbs of pressure, as the link I showed which is published in 2010 only a few years ago, (now that we have this new technology) the lion as stated (not estimated) but measured, was a little above 4,000 newtons, which if you type that in you get almost a 1,000 lbs of pressure, thats double that of the tigers bite...again all those sites just google imaged the photos to make it appear they know what they're talking about and then put in phoney random numbers or from sources where it wasnt accepted, agknowledged or publish by science, my source was awarded so, theres no mentioning of any chart thats measured, only estimates, and as we see, the estimates of the lion having 600 psi (WTF is PSI) if they're saying PSI is pounds, then thats a way off point made...which of course it came from the animal planet/ discover channel 3-D rendering...3-D makes it...not real, which makes it estimates, you need real animals tested.

In this day and age you cant just say something and publish it without it being fact checked by your peers in biology at universitys, he was awarded the worlds top natrualist of america and has a Ph.D in Geology and Biology which is backed by tested science.


Bite force: Lion>tiger
Newtons are used to measure force, not pressure.
 

MrColin

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What's a more accurate measure than PSI?

Apparently the subjective estimation of Silver Prime is more accurate than PSI. His argument is bulletproof.

I thought is was the Hyena (at least for mammals) before someone googled it for me. Now I don't know any more.
 
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Silver Prime

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Hang on, I have a theory.

Anarchist420 + Mayne = Silver Prime?


Right on time, so you were viewing else where of the forum, and just magically posted instantly after I humilialted you more? Ahha ha ha ha, from that little kid of joy seeing other trolls help redeem your beat down you took, yet in the pauses when no one post, 10 seconds through out 1 minute feels like hours and days to you, your reaction of 1 minute when no one post your bandwagon rant:
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As soon as I log off, you must flip out like the screaming gay boy you are Ruptga: No No No No! He doesnt know that I know I'm stalking him, more trolling ahhhhhhh and derailing and but hurt remarks are gona be made, why why why, everyone keep insulting him so I feel better after I humilated my self on the leopard vs tiger thread.

Ha hah aah ha ha XD XD XD
 

Ruptga

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There must be more to it. There's anarchist's insanity, and mayne's complete disconnect from the normal human condition, but I'm missing an ingredient. Ah fuck it, I've already wasted thirty seconds thinking about it, best to cut my losses.

Anyway, probably the worst of your many mental deficiencies, SP, is that you're incapable of constructing rational thoughts. The way your brain jumps to conclusions is like the way a flea jumps onto a dog.

The only people in danger of receiving a thrashing from you are those that take you seriously, but I honestly can't see how anyone would do that for more than five replies, max. Granted, you've already showed me that I set the lower limit on human rationality too high, several times in fact, so maybe I'm wrong about that.

Anyway I'm going to check on this thread in a week, if you've not gotten a ban by then I will be genuinely amazed.

OH WAIT, it came to me just as I hit submit. Dari. There's definitely at least a little Dari in you. There's probably more too, but that's at least a part of it.
 
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Silver Prime

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There must be more to it. There's anarchist's insanity, and mayne's complete disconnect from the normal human condition, but I'm missing an ingredient. Ah fuck it, I've already wasted thirty seconds thinking about it, best to cut my losses.

Anyway, probably the worst of your many mental deficiencies, SP, is that you're incapable of constructing rational thoughts. The way your brain jumps to conclusions is like the way a flea jumps onto a dog.

The only people in danger of receiving a thrashing from you are those that take you seriously, but I honestly can't see how anyone would do that for more than five replies, max. Granted, you've already showed me that I set the lower limit on human rationality too high, several times in fact, so maybe I'm wrong about that.

Anyway I'm going to check on this thread in a week, if you've not gotten a ban by then I will be genuinely amazed.

OH WAIT, it came to me just as I hit submit. Dari. There's definitely at least a little Dari in you. There's probably more too, but that's at least a part of it.


Says the out of this world nut job stalker. Where are your ratings of sanity even comeing from whacko, if you were to stalk me in real life the way you do my post, I would cave in your head and kick your fucking teeth in...stop playing the fucking retarded charade as if you're not a troll, you're not a stalking fucking looney, as if you dont go around derailing threads, making faggotry parody threads to past the time of your useless waste of life and pathetic existance.


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Wheres anyones credentials posted so far? Ohhh but we know what psi means pounds not pressure yet cant disifer it because it has no where ever been mentioned being tested with a scientific instrument, you cant say the lion has 600 PSI when the scholar fact is lions have over 900 lbs of pressure:
http://books.google.com/books?id=7o...a=X&ei=tWMSVLSVJsy1yATJuYGoAQ&ved=0CBYQ6AEwCA

Wheres the scientist names to drop that all those animals have higher psi's or newtons than lions, drop the names...ohhhh you cant because they come from blogs and forums and are non-existant in science academics, are you fucking paying attention to whats the argument you dumb fuck. Credentials you have none. The only stats that say other wise are estimates, hence the professors specific chosen words, measured vs estimates, the tiger, jaguar, bear, ect have all been estimated, did you not read the chart on yuku? Of course you didnt you're too glued to my threads trying to recover your massive butt hurt, shut the fuck up.
 
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Red Squirrel

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I wonder if they measure that in the middle of the mouth or at the tip (front teeth) or back, or if it's some kind of average. If you look at something like a crocodile they have a rather long mouth, is it actually 5000 psi at the tip? That's an insane amount of force if yes.
 

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Silver Prime, which is bigger? 72 inches, or 4 minutes? You're probably thinking, "that question is retarded." Yet, it's the exact same type of comparison you're making with PSI and pounds.
 

Silver Prime

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Silver Prime, which is bigger? 72 inches, or 4 minutes? You're probably thinking, "that question is retarded." Yet, it's the exact same type of comparison you're making with PSI and pounds.

There is no instrument that gauges it, other wise show me where jaguar had a greater bite then the lion other than estimations and other sites than blogs and forums, Professor Frank C mendel and Professor Geerat mention newtons in thier text, they have shown to use a phome like device where the animals bite on similar to Dr. Brady bars dog demonstration, and it catches the amount of newtons which is then converted into pounds as I've already showed the converter...show me the device they use where it says PSI...you are going by hear say and than applying it to the actual meaning of a different method.


Why would I take anything you say serious when you dont even under stand biomass and actual force, a ant doesnt bite harder than big cats, in proportion to body size, yes, but we arnt talking about that since ants use biomechanics, not muscle.

I didnt say the lion has the world record bite force of all living things, just for the mammals since its backed up with credentials, so stop acting like I'm parodying out with it...be specific and try not to be a troll about things, I simply dont use PSI because theres no mentioning of it guaging animal bites in scientific literature with actual instruments. Its mentioned as Newtons not PSI.
 

Silver Prime

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I think Dr. Pizza teaches physics, just so you know. :p

I dont care, I dont have to know all that much, I can just quote the people who do I'm not claiming to be an expert, I'm a researcher...theres a difference, and the person I quoted is by far more credible then someone (Dr.P) who has never tested the actual theory, nor does he have any evidence of an instrument that guaged their PSI.

Oh but thanks Dr pizza, I forgot mendel did the test on the discovery chanel, and I was looking for the demosntration of the lioness biting the phome he later did, but I found his first consenses done where he estimated it on the lion vs tiger face off, in such looking for the phome one, you lead me to finding just now there were two professors that agreed a lion would whip a tiger, Mendel and Woodward:
http://www.ubspectrum.com/news/view.php/265513/UB-Professors-Lend-Their-Expertise-to-An


I never knew that. I'll go add that guy to the massive archive of experts who favor the lion over the tiger. Or should I say the unreliable people that wont ever be accepted on wiki the god given truth site, since bias people are allowed to edit it. Thanks Doc. ^_^
 
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