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Which 1500 truck to buy and why?

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JulesMaximus said:
No, that's what idiots who don't know what the hell they're talking about say. Fact is the Tundra is just as capable as the rest at doing everything the OP is asking.
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tundras are as rare as unicorns on jobsites/with contractors
farmers..you know..people who use trucks
i suppose they are all fools for choosing domestics?
their livelihood depends on them
but you know better right?
compare them to a lexus,implying that domestic truck are somehow cheaper/inferior?
man.stick to motorcycles
tundras are pavement queen poser trucks, thats the reality of it, thats how people who actually drives trucks percieve it
 
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herm0016 said:
but it will not last nearly as long, has a plastic bed floor and imho, the interior is horrid. The materials are fine, but the design is the worst by far. The only thing i do like is the gray color of the displays.

the video shows how well the chassis flexes too. lol
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Yea flex is a issue with toyota trucks (let alone rust) and the C frame probable has some to do with that. Chevy/GMC and Ford use a fully boxed frame last I checked.
 
Full disclosure: I'm a dodge dealer.


I personally like the Ram for your usage pattern because it's the best truck for everyday driver. Most trucks use a leaf spring suspension. That's great when you're consistently hauling moderate to heavy loads, but when it's used as an everyday driver and occasional hauler you end up with a needlessly harsh ride. By using coil springs, Dodge has sacrificed some hauling ability but made the truck much less of a "pain in the ass" so to speak.

My group has ford/dodge/chevy/gmc in it. We have 3 guys at multi-point franchises who can choose what to drive (and we're in texas so it's invariably a truck of some kind). Before dodge built the 09's the guys with demos ALWAYS took a ford or chevy/gmc; now it's more like 1/2 dodge, 1/3 ford, and 1/6 chevy/gmc. Ford and dodge both changed the body styles in 09, with ford going more for the hardcore work users and dodge changing to coil springs (for the 1/2 ton) to go after the everyday truck user market. I think that you should drive a ford, then a chevy, then a dodge all back to back to get the best feel for which one fits you best, but don't be surprised if you end up wanting the dodge after doing that.
 
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OILFIELDTRASH said:
I do need to tow things occasionally. I have a motorcycle I might need to tow, I enjoy using the bike rack I bought for my pickup bed, I also own a home so when I go to the home depot I fit all I need in my pickup bed, it's nice being able to throw a fridge, a tv, washer and dryer in the back of the truck. I do plan on buying some land soon and fencing it off. Do you know of any Honda civics I could use to carry fencing supplies and pull trees up?
Thanks for your concern though kid.
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Then that's good info to put in the OP don't you think? Rather than leaving it at "might tow something small occasionally". Don't act like I'm a moron for not reading your mind and knowing you have a home, go to home depot for big stuff, have a pickup bike rack you use, plan on pulling up tree stumps and driving offroad to build fence...

Thats what I get for assuming, I guess I made asses of both of us.


And FWIW, if you're going to be pulling that many stumps, or big ones, I wouldn't necessarily count on a 1/2t 2WD pickup being able to do it.
 
Why no Dodge recommendations? Guy I work with his son bought a fully loaded 4wd for 25k. You couldn't touch a chevy or ford same options for that price I don't believe. I also know a couple people with dodge trucks that have been great trucks.
 
Dodge didn't build a competitive truck until 09. I was with ford from 96-03, and with chevy/gmc from 04-08. We would have 2-3 customers a month who had just bought a new dodge but were tired of getting beaten up on their drive to work. That's why dodge worked so hard on the redesign in 09, but it takes a few years to live down that sort of reputation. Go read the writeups at edmunds/consumer reports/etc. What you'll find is that ford is a better work truck but dodge is a better everyday driver. However, as I said before, don't take my word for it, you should also go drive them yourself.
 
OILFIELDTRASH said:
Why no Dodge recommendations? Guy I work with his son bought a fully loaded 4wd for 25k. You couldn't touch a chevy or ford same options for that price I don't believe. I also know a couple people with dodge trucks that have been great trucks.
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Dodges don't seem to hold up long term as well. Trans issues, motor problems, etc...

The new ones might be better but need more long term data before I would look into them. Chevy/GMC (GM) and Ford seem to hold up very well. When I was a tech at a shop that had the bellsouth contract the GM/Ford trucks all performed well. But the dodge trucks and vans always had more issues.
 
I am by no means an expert, but Dodge's rust-out a lot worse up here in MN. Ford/GMC trucks 10+ years have the body intact and no rust. Dodge trucks are good for a while, but the wheels, tailgates, and other boady panels start to go sooner than a comparable Ford of GMC. If you are looking for a long-term truck, I would suggest a GM or Ford vehicle. Maybe in the next 5-10 years Dodge will prove itself capable as well, but why take the chance when there are options that are proven year in and year out.
 
spaceman said:
tundras are as rare as unicorns on jobsites/with contractors
farmers..you know..people who use trucks
i suppose they are all fools for choosing domestics?
their livelihood depends on them
but you know better right?
compare them to a lexus,implying that domestic truck are somehow cheaper/inferior?
man.stick to motorcycles
tundras are pavement queen poser trucks, thats the reality of it, thats how people who actually drives trucks percieve it
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Nice try. I see contractors all over town driving regular or double cab Tundras (only the new body style though). Mostly roofing guys, but also electricians, plumbers, landscapers etc.

Rare as unicorns? Lol, maybe in hillbilly country where they're stuck in the 50's or something.
 
spaceman said:
tundras are as rare as unicorns on jobsites/with contractors
farmers..you know..people who use trucks
i suppose they are all fools for choosing domestics?
their livelihood depends on them
but you know better right?
compare them to a lexus,implying that domestic truck are somehow cheaper/inferior?
man.stick to motorcycles
tundras are pavement queen poser trucks, thats the reality of it, thats how people who actually drives trucks percieve it
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🙄 He's not using it for a work truck genius, he's using it as a pavement queen poser truck...or didn't you read the original post? And I see tons of Toyota trucks used as work trucks around here. I still see many many T100's on the road as work trucks.

The only thing rare as a unicorn is your common sense.
 
bryanW1995 said:
Full disclosure: I'm a dodge dealer.


I personally like the Ram for your usage pattern because it's the best truck for everyday driver. Most trucks use a leaf spring suspension. That's great when you're consistently hauling moderate to heavy loads, but when it's used as an everyday driver and occasional hauler you end up with a needlessly harsh ride. By using coil springs, Dodge has sacrificed some hauling ability but made the truck much less of a "pain in the ass" so to speak.

My group has ford/dodge/chevy/gmc in it. We have 3 guys at multi-point franchises who can choose what to drive (and we're in texas so it's invariably a truck of some kind). Before dodge built the 09's the guys with demos ALWAYS took a ford or chevy/gmc; now it's more like 1/2 dodge, 1/3 ford, and 1/6 chevy/gmc. Ford and dodge both changed the body styles in 09, with ford going more for the hardcore work users and dodge changing to coil springs (for the 1/2 ton) to go after the everyday truck user market. I think that you should drive a ford, then a chevy, then a dodge all back to back to get the best feel for which one fits you best, but don't be surprised if you end up wanting the dodge after doing that.
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Congrats on Dodge for adding those ridiculous looking redneck fake enlarged exhaust tips that anyone with eyes can see are actually only like 1.5" of pipe with a gaudy chrome flare. It gives me something to laugh at. RAM aesthetics are almost worse than the Japanese trucks. As for the removal of leaf springs.. well, if you are not going to be hauling, you probably don't need a truck. Any GASOLINE Dodge truck is as poser as it comes and is appropriate for women and/or idiot city kids.

For the record, I have mad respect for their TD's.

If you want a poser truck for city driving just get a Ridgeline and be done with it. Cheaper, better warranty, same amount of laughter.
 
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I have never seen a new style tundra in the oil field. We run gmc and ford, all of our mangement have half ton gas crew cabs.

the t100s and first gen tundras were much better trucks than the current model. I may consider one of those if i need an older truck.
 
herm0016 said:
I have never seen a new style tundra in the oil field. We run gmc and ford, all of our mangement have half ton gas crew cabs.

the t100s and first gen tundras were much better trucks than the current model. I may consider one of those if i need an older truck.
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Not surprising, there's a lot of domestic dick sucking in the flyover states. I've heard stories of owners of foreign cars/trucks getting keyed in states like Michigan simply because they didn't buy American...🙄
 
herm0016 said:
the t100s and first gen tundras were much better trucks than the current model.
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I have a 1996 T-100 4-wheel drive. Its smaller then a full sized 1/2 ton, but otherwise an outstanding truck.


ElFenix said:
tundra is fuggo on the inside and that should count for pavement queen use.
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I will take fuggo over having to fix something every few months.


spaceman said:
i suppose they are all fools for choosing domestics?
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Toyota has a Tundra plant in Austin Texas, how much more domestic do you want?
 
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2003 F150 Lightning with a pulley and tune at minimum.

Ram 1500 SRT-10.

Don't recall if Chevy and Toyota have anything in that class.
 
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phreaqe said:
then you can have it rust to crap like my father in laws....stick with a real truck like a ford/chevy....
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LOL, I owned chevy/GM trucks from the mid-1980s all the way to the late 1990s. About 15 years in all and 4 different trucks.

One GMC Sierra I owned from 1992 - 1994, it was in the shop 3 or 4 times before 12,000 miles. The fuel filter did not even make it to 9,000 miles, the glove box door broke, an AC hose came loose, there was a rattle in a heat shield on the motor,,,,,,,. I finally had to get rid of the truck because so much stuff was going wrong. Never again.

The last Dodge product I owned was 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee - the computers kept going out at a rate of 1 every 18 months, and at a cost of about $800 each. My wife and I replaced 2 computers, when the 3rd one started going out, we traded the jeep off.

After owning a Toyota, I doubt I will ever buy another ford, dodge or chevy truck ever again.

My T-100 does not have a spot of rust on it either.
 
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Texashiker said:
LOL, I owned chevy/GM trucks from the mid-1980s all the way to the late 1990s. About 15 years in all and 4 different trucks.

One GMC truck I owned was a GMC Sierra, which was around 1992 - 1994. It was in the shop 3 times before 12,000 miles. The fuel filter did not even make it to 9,000 miles, the glove box door broke, an AC hose came loose, there was a rattle in a heat shield on the motor,,,,,,,. Never again.

The last Dodge product I owned was 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee - the computers kept going out at a rate of 1 every 18 months, and at a cost of about $800 each.

After owning a Toyota, I doubt I will ever buy another ford, dodge or chevy truck ever again.

My T-100 does not have a spot of rust on it either.
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I owned a 2000 Tundra SR-5 extended cab for a few years. Never had any trouble with it and it was a great truck. I just have zero need for a truck and gas mileage was pretty poor so when my son was born I traded it in for my Maxima. I did take it off road in the desert a few times to go shooting. It took everything I threw at it.
 
Unless you have $6/gallon to spend on something that barely gets 20 mpg, you should rethink a truck. Or get a used one.

The only reason people should be buying trucks right now is if they actually need it for thier job or as a 3rd vehicle. Or becasue they make $150K/year. And I am not joking.

I have a 2003 Chevy (bought new) and I am not replacing it due to gasoline costs in the future. I'll keep it as a 3rd vehicle when I eventualy get a car that does 25+ mpg or the move to natural gas has occured.

Sorry, but i htink you hsould have fair warning since you did not say that this is a work vehicle.
 
OILFIELDTRASH said:
I do need to tow things occasionally. I have a motorcycle I might need to tow, I enjoy using the bike rack I bought for my pickup bed, I also own a home so when I go to the home depot I fit all I need in my pickup bed, it's nice being able to throw a fridge, a tv, washer and dryer in the back of the truck. I do plan on buying some land soon and fencing it off. Do you know of any Honda civics I could use to carry fencing supplies and pull trees up?
Thanks for your concern though kid.
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To follow up on my precious comment. You definitely do not need a new truck. Get one used for $10K and get a new car that gets good fuel economy for $20K. You'll thank me for it later.
 
IHateMyJob2004 said:
Unless you have $6/gallon to spend on something that barely gets 20 mpg, you should rethink a truck. Or get a used one.
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Its going to take awhile for the "I own a truck for a status symbol" mentality to finally pass on. Not that oilfield does not need a truck, but I see a lot of people who own trucks and the bed does not have a single scratch in it.

My truck, it pulls my boat trailer, my bar-b-q pit, hauls firewood, and sometimes it hauls a 4-wheeler. During deer season, I pull the deer into the back of the truck and haul the deer to the butcher. Its easier to wash the blood out the bed of a truck, then to wash out an SUV or car.
 
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