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DrPizza

DrPizza

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When I was a little kid with a paper route, I was instructed that as soon as I endorsed a check, it was as good as cash to someone: don't endorse it until you're ready to make the deposit, unless you endorse it as a deposit "pay to the account of... " with the signature.

I'm not sure if that advice was true or not, but I've have followed that advice all my life. I'd think that "Did you endorse the check?" "No, your honor." "Here's the cancelled check. The signature seems to match." "Well, uhhh, I'm not the one who took it to the bank." "Case dismissed."
 
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Fausto

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Question: is the LL in any kind of financial trouble to where he'd consider attempting to defraud you (and probably others). I'm having trouble seeing wtf his angle is here.
 
Beev

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DrPizza said:
When I was a little kid with a paper route, I was instructed that as soon as I endorsed a check, it was as good as cash to someone: don't endorse it until you're ready to make the deposit, unless you endorse it as a deposit "pay to the account of... " with the signature.

I'm not sure if that advice was true or not, but I've have followed that advice all my life. I'd think that "Did you endorse the check?" "No, your honor." "Here's the cancelled check. The signature seems to match." "Well, uhhh, I'm not the one who took it to the bank." "Case dismissed."
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Same. I don't sign checks until I'm talking to the teller.
 
Ketchup

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The mold removal company told us that the carpet really had to be taken out in sections and not ripped out. The spores could get airborne if the carpet was just ripped out and get all over the house. The LL assured me that would not be an issue and his guy just ripped out the carpets.

Shortly thereafter my son got rashes all over his legs. He would take baths downstairs because that was the only bathroom that had a tub in the house. My 6 week old daughter got a mystery illness and had to have a spinal tap done. To this day the doctors have no idea what cause it but we all guess that it may be from the mold.
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I am not sure when this occurred, but this would have been plenty to break the lease agreement, if not sue the guy as well. I can't believe you are keeping your family in this house.
 
TangoJuliet

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slayer202 said:
I'm not reading through the whole thread and I don't see it mentioned in the first post, but did you ever find out who has the money?? Even if the LL lost the check, I would assume whoever deposited it would be in a bit of trouble, responsible for returning the money at least.
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Nope, no idea who has the money at this point. The only information I got from my bank was the check was received at a JP Morgan Chase bank. That does not mean it was deposited into a Chase account.

My bank has gone on to say that they have no reason to believe that the check was not deposited into the account on the back of the check. If there was an error those monies would have either been put back in my account or into the correct account.

As of this moment, no monies have been returned to my account.
 
highland145

highland145

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"Hey, LL. I think I found your $$. It's in account #******(the one on your oil check) at Chase."
 
rudeguy

rudeguy

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What kind of pos is this guy?

I'd try to find the money just to file fraud charges against him.

Then I might want to visit the irs website to offer them a tip on him....
 
Juddog

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TangoJuliet said:
Along with that letter the LL included a check for his portion of the oil that we split each month. I happened to look at it a little closer......

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hmmm Chase Bank??
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Wow... LL is getting more shady by the minute.

At this point I'm just waiting for a horror story to come out where the LL starts threatening the OP or some such. OP be careful!
 
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GotIssues

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TangoJuliet said:
As per the attorneys I have spoken with, I have drafted this letter. I plan on sending it with April's rent check.


Mr. LL,

After speaking with the police, the branch manager at Citibank in (deleted), real estate agents and to numerous attorneys, they have all stated that I am under no obligation to pay you again for March’s rent. You admitted to having the check in your possession, signing it with your name and account number. I have provided you all the information I have after spending countless hours at the bank and on the phone.

I cannot sign an affidavit of forgery because I have zero evidence that a case of forgery exists. I will not sign a document when on that document it states making any false statements is a crime. If you have evidence that a forgery exists then you need to fill out the form and contact your local authorities. I have spoken with my local police department and they said I cannot fill out any paperwork because no crime has been committed between either of us.

Furthermore, after April’s rent check all future rent checks will be put in an escrow account until you make the necessary repairs to the house. Those repairs include: repairing the backyard area and seeding the lawn where the cesspool was fixed. Fixing the pool cover so that it no longer sags allowing stagnant water to collect on top of it. Repairing the broken window in the master bedroom. A request to fix those items were given to you as far back as November 2011 and have still not been fixed.

We also will not require any further deliveries of oil. Any future deliveries by (deleted) Fuel Oil company will be denied. If the tank is filled by (deleted) when we are not home then it will be your responsibility to make payment. There is nothing in our lease that states we are required to continue your contract with (deleted) Fuel Oil company. As of right now the tank of 550 gallons is full. According to our lease agreement, you will be responsible for every gallon at a rate of $4/per gallon.

This letter’s purpose is to put you on notice. If you would like to discuss any of these issues further please contact my attorney. Please do not harass me any longer with your threatening letters, emails or text messages.

Thoughts/Comments??
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Consider rephrasing the first sentence of the last paragraph to something like "This letter is to inform you of the current status of requested repairs and protocol for future communications." Leave out the last sentence. It looks better on you if you simply be blunt and say "Contact my lawyer with any further issues" and leave it at that. Otherwise you are sinking ever so slightly to his level, which looks petty. Maintaining composure always looks better if it gets to court. Let him be the petty one that sits around doing nothing but throwing out threats.
 
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momeNt

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Either the LL's wife has taken the money into her own account, and the LL doesn't know and is honestly trying to work this out as if it was fraud. Or he is in on it and trying to defraud TJ / TJ's bank out of $2,500.

At this point I think the LL may be out of the loop and his wife pulled a fast one, I don't see him doubling down with this most recent letter. TJ called the fraud bluff, if he was trying to scam he should just be like - found the money, let's keep doing business.
 
chubbyfatazn

chubbyfatazn

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momeNt said:
Either the LL's wife has taken the money into her own account, and the LL doesn't know and is honestly trying to work this out as if it was fraud. Or he is in on it and trying to defraud TJ / TJ's bank out of $2,500.

At this point I think the LL may be out of the loop and his wife pulled a fast one, I don't see him doubling down with this most recent letter. TJ called the fraud bluff, if he was trying to scam he should just be like - found the money, let's keep doing business.
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Or the LL could just be incredibly and utterly stupid... hehe
 
SpatiallyAware

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momeNt said:
Either the LL's wife has taken the money into her own account, and the LL doesn't know and is honestly trying to work this out as if it was fraud. Or he is in on it and trying to defraud TJ / TJ's bank out of $2,500.

At this point I think the LL may be out of the loop and his wife pulled a fast one, I don't see him doubling down with this most recent letter. TJ called the fraud bluff, if he was trying to scam he should just be like - found the money, let's keep doing business.
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I bet the LL and wife are having issues, Wife is somehow able to deposit his checks and 'took' it, and LL is doing this to try and recover the money.
 
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pmv

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SpatiallyAware said:
I'm still holding onto this being the LL's wife screwing with him.
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If this were some sort of episodic drama (or 'soap opera' if you want to be lowbrow about it) it would be this. The wife would be having an affair with a sleazy but charming fraudster. Either that or the LL would have some delinquent adult offspring.

But its not, right? This is real life, right?

(Unless its a social media experiment to see if there's a market for such an episodic drama in the form of forum posts! If so, its working, I'm intrigued to find what happens next).
 
waggy

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TangoJuliet said:
Along with that letter the LL included a check for his portion of the oil that we split each month. I happened to look at it a little closer......

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hmmm Chase Bank??
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OH SHIT! lol no surprise in that but damn he is a idiot for sending you a check on a chase account heh
 
silverpig

silverpig

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Numbnuts probably deposited the rent check in the Chase bank account for oil, not his normal HSBC one, forgot about it, and has no idea the money is in there.

So do this:


highland145 said:
"Hey, LL. I think I found your $$. It's in account #******(the one on your oil check) at Chase."
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