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Why are you doing anything when your lawyer should be?



Alky this isn't a domestic abuse case, bankruptcy/foreclosure, aggressive driving, or DUI, so your experience on what his lawyer should/should not be doing is pretty much baseless. In your situations the lawyer fully takes over.


It's not uncommon for a lawyer to give advise as to what you should do in MOST situations that are not as serious.
 

momeNt

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No response because I think they were trying to scam him and his bank's fraud department out of money.

They basically dropped all communications this whole week after hammering him for a while, hoping he'd cave and send another check. Also, for apparently the first time they went to cash his post-dated check earlier, this shows an urgency/need for money very quickly.

I'm glad TJ didn't cave, this really began to look like the LL was trying to defraud both TJ and his bank. Possibly having a teller deposit the check into another one of the LL's account - but not the one on the back of the check - he seems to have friends in his bank that maybe didn't realize what he was trying to do.
 

EagleKeeper

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LL has indicated that Chase found the account.

LL has not indicated if any ties to the account - only wants an affidavit.
 

momeNt

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LL has indicated that Chase found the account.

LL has not indicated if any ties to the account - only wants an affidavit.

I missed that post then.

I'd like to know if there were any ties to the account, it all seems too fishy.
 

OutHouse

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So I got this email today from the LL

TJ,

You have not responded to my last two requests, sent March 15th and March 16th, regarding March's rent payment of $2,500.00 which I have not yet received.
It has been determined by Citibank that a affidavit of forgery be signed and returned to them. At that point they will collect the funds from J.P Morgan Chase bank. Once you have received said funds, the March rent payment can be made. Until then March's payment will be considered not paid, and action will be taken.
Let me know a day and time that is convenient for you to bring the form and have it signed.

I have CC'd my attorney on this email for his records.

Thank you,
Landlord

wtf, that sounds like a email scam from Nigeria.
 

EagleKeeper

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LL has indicated that Chase found the account.

LL has not indicated if any ties to the account - only wants an affidavit.

I missed that post then.

I'd like to know if there were any ties to the account, it all seems too fishy.

Update 3/17

Got this follow up text from the LL last night

LL: Joe I am free tomorrow and sunday to drop off the money for the standard protection plan and half the difference of the oil bill and have the document signed so that your money can be returned into your account and march payment can be properly made. Please let me know if tomorrow or Sunday works for you. The sooner we can put this to rest the better. This situation can be resolved so easily and luckily your money was located.
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TangoJuliet

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LL has indicated that Chase found the account.

LL has not indicated if any ties to the account - only wants an affidavit.

I don't think so. I think that is what the LL is trying to tell me. The only information I have gotten from my bank was that the receiving bank is JP Morgan Chase. That does not mean the check was deposited there it just means the check was "cashed" by that bank.

My lawyer has given me advice on what to do. He said to forward all communications such as emails and texts to him. There is nothing for him to do at the moment. My bank manager said my obligations have been met and I should not fill out an affidavit.

There is zero forgery on my end. I knowingly filled out the check and the LL signed the check himself. Filling out an affidavit based on what the LL wants would be lying and would put me in hot water.
 

EagleKeeper

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Chase accepted the check. They have a record on how/where/when the check entered their system. One should not be able to present a check and have it accepted without proper ID or an authorized documented tie to the addressee.

If they did so, then heads will roll from the teller up to at least the teller supervisor.

LL needs to chase the funds out of Chase by filing fraud/theft if Chase will not work with him. I would expect that Chase would want to get this resolved to identify fraud and/or mishandling.
 
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alkemyst

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It's more than likely an internal issue with the wrong account being credited. Happens occasionally.
 

alkemyst

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There is only one way to settle this. What is your IQ?

mine is around 160, but this was a very busy thread. AFAIK, the outcome was the landlord admitted it got deposited. Maybe I missed it was by someone else. There was the story of his chick and a whole bunch of other noise in this.

Especially how the OP wants to break his lease being so mentioned yet at the same time is doing everything to simply not address that point.

Seriously this is the crossroad in that. Easy to talk to the landlord and just admit the lease was a bad match.

Maybe my complicated life is just an alternate universe from the one you guys live in, but I doubt that. I usually pick the path of least resistance that gets me to my goal.

It usually does.
 

waggy

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Alky this isn't a domestic abuse case, bankruptcy/foreclosure, aggressive driving, or DUI, so your experience on what his lawyer should/should not be doing is pretty much baseless. In your situations the lawyer fully takes over.


It's not uncommon for a lawyer to give advise as to what you should do in MOST situations that are not as serious.

bwahahahahahah
 

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Alky this isn't a domestic abuse case, bankruptcy/foreclosure, aggressive driving, or DUI, so your experience on what his lawyer should/should not be doing is pretty much baseless. In your situations the lawyer fully takes over.


It's not uncommon for a lawyer to give advise as to what you should do in MOST situations that are not as serious.


Looks like I have some thread searching to do... :awe:
 

Dr. Zaus

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mine is around 160, but this was a very busy thread.
If you are smart why don't you make any money? Are you bettering yourself, or does your paranoid personality disorder preclude you from improving your lot in life?


Maybe the OP should run-down the LL, get into a fight, take a few punches and then shoot the LL.

You, too. I tried.
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alkemyst

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If you are smart why don't you make any money? Are you bettering yourself, or does your paranoid personality disorder preclude you from improving your lot in life?


Maybe the OP should run-down the LL, get into a fight, take a few punches and then shoot the LL.

I am not sure what you are talking about with money, bettering myself, I am not paranoid...I also donate a lot. I am a 5%+er

I take down certifications and read books for personal growth and financial growth a lot.

but this was from a guy older than 20 and also on welfare.

And you as well. I tried.
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Fern

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Oh I also forgot to mention that my wife has become friendly with some of the neighbors. She asked them the other day what kind of people the LL and his wife were and they didn't have anything nice to say. They also mentioned that the LL had told them that we were their cousins

Makes me question whether he's renting to you legally or not.

E.g., if it's a home he owns, sometimes banks forbid renting. Loans for home mortgages are lower than loans for rental properties. I.e., he may have an obligation to notify the bank it's no longer his primary residence.

If he's trying a tax dodge, the fact he's using an LLC may not mean much. If he is the only shareholder (technically often referred to as a "member) the LLC may be considered a disregarded entity by the IRS meaning it never files a tax return and they are, for all practical purposes, unaware of it.

Fern
 

TangoJuliet

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Makes me question whether he's renting to you legally or not.

E.g., if it's a home he owns, sometimes banks forbid renting. Loans for home mortgages are lower than loans for rental properties. I.e., he may have an obligation to notify the bank it's no longer his primary residence.

If he's trying a tax dodge, the fact he's using an LLC may not mean much. If he is the only shareholder (technically often referred to as a "member) the LLC may be considered a disregarded entity by the IRS meaning it never files a tax return and they are, for all practical purposes, unaware of it.

Fern

I thought the same thing. I actually contacted the local town and asked if the proper paperwork had been filed to make the home legal to rent. The response I got was that there is nothing an owner has to fill out to make the home legal to rent.

Now, if the bank has an issue that is something I may explore as well.

I contacted the board of health in regards to the standing water on the pool as well as the water that has been in there for the past 3+ years. I haven't heard back from them yet.

I also did not get anything in the mail today from the LL. He sent me the threatening email on Monday. I think it was probably bait which I did not take. Had it been a serious threat I was expecting something in the mail this week.
 

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I thought the same thing. I actually contacted the local town and asked if the proper paperwork had been filed to make the home legal to rent. The response I got was that there is nothing an owner has to fill out to make the home legal to rent.

Now, if the bank has an issue that is something I may explore as well.

I contacted the board of health in regards to the standing water on the pool as well as the water that has been in there for the past 3+ years. I haven't heard back from them yet.

I also did not get anything in the mail today from the LL. He sent me the threatening email on Monday. I think it was probably bait which I did not take. Had it been a serious threat I was expecting something in the mail this week.

I gotta ask...

It's seems at this point that your landlord wants you out. It also seems you want out as well. Given the mutual common ground, don't you think it would be best to contact the landlord and see if this is indeed the case, and negotiate some common ground (maybe a month or two) to find a new place to live and brush this whole drama under the rug?

Or is the both parties being reasonable at this point ship sitting aground next to the ship in Italy?
 

TangoJuliet

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I gotta ask...

It's seems at this point that your landlord wants you out. It also seems you want out as well. Given the mutual common ground, don't you think it would be best to contact the landlord and see if this is indeed the case, and negotiate some common ground (maybe a month or two) to find a new place to live and brush this whole drama under the rug?

Or is the both parties being reasonable at this point ship sitting aground next to the ship in Italy?

I really don't want to post our intentions just incase the LL has been viewing this thread. If you know what to google search for this thread comes up in the top 3 results.

Let me just say this, we are not in a position to move out right now. If we decide to leave we want it to be on our own terms.

I spoke with the attorney again and April's rent will be the last rent he gets until some of the things are fixed around the house. The monies will be put in escrow. The LL will get a letter in the mail stating this along with this month's rent.