Wheres my rent check!?! Updated Daily!

[Ketchup]

Its not a bank error because the LL said he did not deposit the check. If he admitted to depositing it then it's possible that there was an error and it went into the wrong account

So did the LL lose the check, did he (or his wife) cash (or deposit) it somewhere, or does he still have the check? If his wife had the check at one point (from page 1), one of these three must be true.

You really need to press him for this information. Your taking his BS is not helping you, especially if you think you are getting out of this lease.

 

[airdata]

I find it funny that Alkemyst is putting forth such effort to try to say OP is in the wrong.

From skimming the thread it seems that the LL lying about losing the check was simply the straw that broke the camels back.

What honest person would pretend they didn't receive the check and ask for another?

The main point of the thread is that LL tried to screw OP... I'm sure some more gullible people may have sent another check and only later found their checking account -$5000 instead of $2500. Once it was clear that the whole thing started w\ the LL lying, all bets are off really.

 

[TangoJuliet]

So did the LL lose the check, did he (or his wife) cash (or deposit) it somewhere, or does he still have the check? If his wife had the check at one point (from page 1), one of these three must be true.

You really need to press him for this information. Your taking his BS is not helping you, especially if you think you are getting out of this lease.

I thought I already explained that.

I asked the LL point blank where is the check. He told me that if he knew that then solving this would be easy. The last person to have the check was the LL's wife who thought it was in her car. His wife tried to cash it prior to being lost/stolen.

 

[alkemyst]

I find it funny that Alkemyst is putting forth such effort to try to say OP is in the wrong.

From skimming the thread it seems that the LL lying about losing the check was simply the straw that broke the camels back.

What honest person would pretend they didn't receive the check and ask for another?

The main point of the thread is that LL tried to screw OP... I'm sure some more gullible people may have sent another check and only later found their checking account -$5000 instead of $2500. Once it was clear that the whole thing started w\ the LL lying, all bets are off really.

And what to they do then run off into the sunset yelling NEENER NEENER NEENER!

I never said the OP was wrong, I said we aren't getting an accurate story as details keep changing.

Also everyone is wrong if they think handing a check to someone that never makes it to getting paid or due to bank error ends up in a wrong account releases them from liability.

I believe the check ended up in someone else's account and the OP is not doing their part to respond to the landlords request to just go to the fucking bank with them.

 

[Ketchup]

..... the OP is not doing their part to respond to the landlords request to just go to the fucking bank with them.

I do agree with this part at the very least. Seems this is being dragged out for no logical reason.

 

[sonambulo]

The reason it is being dragged out is for ATOT's entertainment. This is logical.

 

[Ketchup]

I thought I already explained that.

I asked the LL point blank where is the check. He told me that if he knew that then solving this would be easy. The last person to have the check was the LL's wife who thought it was in her car. His wife tried to cash it prior to being lost/stolen.

Then you need to go to the bank with the LL and straighten it out. Like I and others have said, you will keep running into "can't release account information" walls if you keep trying to do this separate from him.

 

[Ketchup]

The reason it is being dragged out is for ATOT's entertainment. This is logical.

That would be. To quote a phrase from Mr. T, resurrected in The Big Bang Theory, "I pity the fool that's illogical."

 

[Joseph F]

still sounds like LL is lying. i smell a coverup
is the LL's name "Richard Nixon" ?

LOL, Checkgate. :awe:

 

[highland145]

still sounds like LL is lying. i smell a coverup
is the LL's name "Eric Holder" ?

LOL, Fast and FuckOPus.. :awe:

ftfboy.:biggrin:


Tango, maybe he finally did get it deposited nad the clearing house messed up. He's lied before......

Bets on the wife.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Tango, maybe he finally did get it deposited and the clearing house messed up. He's lied before......

Facts:
Wife tried to deposit it in advance - nothing has been stated on which bank this happened at

LL claims that he does not have an account at Chase only at HSBC
LL has not confirmed/denied that the wife has a Chase account
LL has not confirmed/denied that he has asked his wife about the check since the failed cashing attempt

Suspicion:
Wife has a Chase account that the LL does not know about
LL wife deposited the check at Chase - no verification on that the account number on back of Tango check matched with the deposit account number.
Last name apparently sufficed

 

[highland145]

Facts:
Wife tried to deposit it in advance - nothing has been stated on which bank this happened at

LL claims that he does not have an account at Chase only at HSBC
LL has not confirmed/denied that the wife has a Chase account
LL has not confirmed/denied that he has asked his wife about the check since the failed cashing attempt

Suspicion:
Wife has a Chase account that the LL does not know about
LL wife deposited the check at Chase - no verification on that the account number on back of Tango check matched with the deposit account number.
Last name apparently sufficed

Yep. The 2 facts are that she tried to cash it early and that it went to a Chase account in the end.

Don't know how check clearing houses work so I "supposed" that they could have sent it to the wrong bank and the LL wants Tango to fix it.

Still betting on a 2nd account for the wife.

 

[TangoJuliet]

Then you need to go to the bank with the LL and straighten it out. Like I and others have said, you will keep running into "can't release account information" walls if you keep trying to do this separate from him.

I did not have time last week to get to a bank. I went yesterday by myself to see if I could straighten it out. The LL and myself have coordinated to the bank tomorrow at 3pm.

Facts:
Wife tried to deposit it in advance - nothing has been stated on which bank this happened at

LL claims that he does not have an account at Chase only at HSBC
LL has not confirmed/denied that the wife has a Chase account
LL has not confirmed/denied that he has asked his wife about the check since the failed cashing attempt

Suspicion:
Wife has a Chase account that the LL does not know about
LL wife deposited the check at Chase - no verification on that the account number on back of Tango check matched with the deposit account number.
Last name apparently sufficed

I am going to ask the LL point blank if his wife or some other family member or friend deposited the check. I will ask him if his wife has an account at Chase.

If the answer is yes to any of those questions what is my next course of action??

 

[Genx87]

The check was cashed, you have a copy of the check written to him. This is on him to find out where the money went. You have done you duty and he screwed up. It wouldnt be any different if you gave him the check and he lost it and it was cashed. At that point he would need to find out who cashed a check with his name and get money from them.

 

[Ketchup]

I did not have time last week to get to a bank. I went yesterday by myself to see if I could straighten it out. The LL and myself have coordinated to the bank tomorrow at 3pm.



I am going to ask the LL point blank if his wife or some other family member or friend deposited the check. I will ask him if his wife has an account at Chase.

If the answer is yes to any of those questions what is my next course of action??

Glad to hear you are doing so. As for the next course of action, I would say that's a question he should be asking himself/ his wife/ family member.

One thing maybe you or someone else like EagleKeeper can answer for me. Assuming the same account number is on the back of the check (the numbers we can see are the same), would another bank such as Chase really deposit or cash it? I mean, the number wasn't x-ed out or replaced with another number. Chase should have some paperwork to go with this check. If you continue to run into problems, finding out how to get this info from Chase would seem to be the next step.

 

[EagleKeeper]

I am going to ask the LL point blank if his wife or some other family member or friend deposited the check. I will ask him if his wife has an account at Chase.

If the answer is yes to any of those questions what is my next course of action??

Yes or no, Chase needs to identify where the deposit went to. That is the LL problem, not yours.

HSBC is out of the picture.

If Chase will not voluntarily track the deposit; I would recommend that you along with the LL initially threaten to file a fraud claim against Chase for them processing the deposit without proper identification.

If that does not shake them up; actually do through the process of filing a fraud claim. The primary party is the LL, the secondary will be Tango.

The LL needs to be aware of that knowingly filing a fraudulent claim can backfire. That is, if he knew his wife had control of the check and had an account at Chase; he should be able to prove that neither of them were involved with the deposit.

 

[TangoJuliet]

Yes or no, Chase needs to identify where the deposit went to. That is the LL problem, not yours.

HSBC is out of the picture.

If Chase will not voluntarily track the deposit; I would recommend that you along with the LL initially threaten to file a fraud claim against Chase for them processing the deposit without proper identification.

If that does not shake them up; actually do through the process of filing a fraud claim. The primary party is the LL, the secondary will be Tango.

The LL needs to be aware of that knowingly filing a fraudulent claim can backfire. That is, if he knew his wife had control of the check and had an account at Chase; he should be able to prove that neither of them were involved with the deposit.

Ok, so there are 3 banks involved - Citi (mine), HSBC (his) and Chase (???). Should I call Chase and tell them that a check I wrote to someone got deposited into a account that is not his? That really sounds like something the LL should be doing, right??

 

[Phokus]

Ok, so there are 3 banks involved - Citi (mine), HSBC (his) and Chase (???). Should I call Chase and tell them that a check I wrote to someone got deposited into a account that is not his? That really sounds like something the LL should be doing, right??

How is this a question, ask the LL to do all the work.

 

[Squisher]

I've been reluctant to enter this thread because I'm no expert and the convoluted path of this check at times seemed to make my head hurt, but I would think disclosure of the depositor of this check would come first through a police inquiry and rather than meeting at the bank the meeting should take place at a police department.

 

[Ketchup]

I've been reluctant to enter this thread because I'm no expert and the convoluted path of this check at times seemed to make my head hurt, but I would think disclosure of the depositor of this check would come first through a police inquiry and rather than meeting at the bank the meeting should take place at a police department.

Yes, as we have learned through the last visit to the bank, you can't just ask for someone else's account information. Either the LL will come clean, or there will be some sort of investigation. I am really hoping the LL chickens out before it goes that far. He was caught in a lie (or at the very least withholding information) at almost the beginning, so he is not that good.

 

[xBiffx]

still sounds like LL is lying. i smell a coverup
is the LL's name "Richard Nixon" ?

Probably not but we do know what thing's for sure, he is sure a dick!

 

[thegimp03]

If the wife has an account at Chase that her husband doesn't know about, how would she be able to deposit the check? Doesn't the bank match the name on the account to the name on the check? Also, if the check was endorsed by the husband, and not the wife whose name might be the only one on the account, I think the bank should catch onto that.

 

[TangoJuliet]

If the wife has an account at Chase that her husband doesn't know about, how would she be able to deposit the check? Doesn't the bank match the name on the account to the name on the check? Also, if the check was endorsed by the husband, and not the wife whose name might be the only one on the account, I think the bank should catch onto that.

The name on the check was xxxx (edited) LLC which is the husband's company.

Check the check image to see the name. Google search was linking to this thread

 

[Ketchup]

the first word that comes to my head is fraud. He's got another account for the company, and he thought.....

I think he's trying to commit fraud, but it's proving difficult because he's an idiot. Keep on him.

 

[highland145]

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