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He acknowledged receipt, signed the check, and deposited it. It's on the LL.

especially since the money was already taken out of the OP's bank account.

If somehow he is refunded the $2,500, then yes, he is still liable for paying his rent in March. But if unrecoverable, then there's nothing else he needs to do.

At least that's how I view it. I'm not lawyer though.
 

Dr. Zaus

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Me: The ultimate service will scan for changes to contact info on existing checking and savings accounts. The $110 service will not. Since you are familiar with the lingo you can look this one up. Under the Code of Federal Regulations, under Title 26 CFR 301.6109-1 (c), banks are not legally required to acquire SSNs from all their applicants.
Stick to your guns and remind him subtly that he's "misinformed" you.
 
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alkemyst

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The fact is the OP has given us conflicting stories.

Regardless of the check's endorsement and it being drawn OUT OF the OP's account, the landlord claims he didn't get the money and just needs the OP to go to the bank so as the check WRITER he can question where his check went.

Simple case, but the OP now wants financial benefit to do so.

It's amazing our posters think this convoluted and purposedly being difficult reaction is what is normal. It's proof why our society is so fucked up and never accomplishes anything.
 
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Lifted

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The fact is the OP has given us conflicting stories.

Regardless of the check's endorsement and it being drawn OUT OF the OP's account, the landlord claims he didn't get the money and just needs the OP to go to the bank so as the check WRITER he can question where his check went.

Simple case, but the OP now wants financial benefit to do so.

It's amazing our posters think this convoluted and purposedly being difficult reaction is what is normal. It's proof why our society is so fucked up and never accomplishes anything.

And the fact that you think that's all it will take shows how clueless you really are.

You really think the bank is going to take $2,500 dollars out of someones account and hand it to someone else on the say so of another person? For all the bank knows, the LL owed the person who deposited the check $2,500, and has since changed his mind and wants it back. Hell, it could have been a gift. As soon as the LL signed it, like a flippin retard, the check was basically cash.

One can only wonder how you've made it to such a ripe old age having so little knowledge of how the world around you works.
 

alkemyst

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And the fact that you think that's all it will take shows how clueless you really are.

You really think the bank is going to take $2,500 dollars out of someones account and hand it to someone else on the say so of another person? For all the bank knows, the LL owed the person who deposited the check $2,500, and has since changed his mind and wants it back. Hell, it could have been a gift. As soon as the LL signed it, like a flippin retard, the check was basically cash.

One can only wonder how you've made it to such a ripe old age having so little knowledge of how the world around you works.

That's not what I said.

However, as the check writer they would tell him and by proxy the landlord where the check was deposited and to whom.

They could then open an investigation if that person was not supposed to have that money.

EASY PEASY!

While an endorsed check is like cash, in reality; not anyone can deposit it...if they came by the check inappropriately then they can't just go NEENER NEENER NEENER it's in my account.

Sit back and listen, you can learn some things.
 

Lifted

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That's not what I said.

However, as the check writer they would tell him and by proxy the landlord where the check was deposited and to whom.

They could then open an investigation if that person was not supposed to have that money.

EASY PEASY!

While an endorsed check is like cash, in reality; not anyone can deposit it...if they came by the check inappropriately then they can't just go NEENER NEENER NEENER it's in my account.

Sit back and listen, you can learn some things.

The irony is strong with you bud.

You have no idea what you're talking about, and are simply making up absolute nonsense as you go along. It's one persons word against the other, and you have no answer to that, other than you think some bank manager is supposed to decide who is telling the truth.
 

alkemyst

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The irony is strong with you bud.

You have no idea what you're talking about, and are simply making up absolute nonsense as you go along. It's one persons word against the other, and you have no answer to that, other than you think some bank manager is supposed to decide who is telling the truth.

what? Don't even need a manager.

The check owner asks for who deposited his check. He asks the landlord if they should have had possession of the check. If not, the bank starts an investigation.

This is a common process.
 

Lifted

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what? Don't even need a manager.

The check owner asks for who deposited his check. He asks the landlord if they should have had possession of the check. If not, the bank starts an investigation.

This is a common process.

Are you serious? It's common that somebody signs a check, then it's stolen and deposited into another account?

This isn't a case of somebody stealing a check and forging a signature. This is a legitimate SIGNED check, signed by the person the check was addressed to.

I don't know why I have to point out what was mentioned 100 times in this thread.
 

drebo

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It's common practice for the intended party to endorse a check and then have that check deposited by someone else into whatever account they want. Part of the flexibility of the check.

OP's Land Lord should be talking to his insurance company, because it's unlikely he'll ever see any of that money. No fraud seems to have been involved and nothing's been stolen. It is strange that there's no stamp on the back of the check, though.

Either way, OP should simply cut ties. It's starting to look like extortion, and that's not something the OP wants. It's highly unlikely that any sort of identity theft will ensue based on the information on a check. Companies and businesses have been using checks for ages and that's typically not what happens. OP should be thankful it wasn't washed and changed to $5k or more.
 

DCal430

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And the fact that you think that's all it will take shows how clueless you really are.

You really think the bank is going to take $2,500 dollars out of someones account and hand it to someone else on the say so of another person? For all the bank knows, the LL owed the person who deposited the check $2,500, and has since changed his mind and wants it back. Hell, it could have been a gift. As soon as the LL signed it, like a flippin retard, the check was basically cash.

One can only wonder how you've made it to such a ripe old age having so little knowledge of how the world around you works.

Wrong Wrong, if the check wasn't cashed by the correct person the OP could easily go to his bank and have them reverse the money out.

I have seen banks reverse out money from deposited checks before. In the case of stolen check the bank can reverse out the deposit months after it was deposited.
 
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DCal430

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I know someone who sold laptop on craigslist and was paid using a business check, by someone who claimed to be the owner of the business. Turns out the check was stolen and 2 months later the bank of the check reverses the money out of his account. He was out of a 2000 laptop and had no money for it. So it can be done.
 

alkemyst

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Are you serious? It's common that somebody signs a check, then it's stolen and deposited into another account?

This isn't a case of somebody stealing a check and forging a signature. This is a legitimate SIGNED check, signed by the person the check was addressed to.

I don't know why I have to point out what was mentioned 100 times in this thread.

Are you purposely just trolling?

The common process is the bank's process of finding out when an endorsed check ends up where the depositor says it shouldn't have gone.

A lot of times this is the claimant trying to get their money back, some of the time the bank made a clerical error, and some of the time the depositor lost the check and some idiot figured they could get away with putting it into their account.

What happens is the bank gives an affidavit to the person with the money saying the original depositor claims they were not authorized/made agent/etc to that check.

Sometimes it sheds light on a business partner skimming funds, making a bird-brained error of putting money into the wrong account or an account they forgot about, etc.

The reality of this situation is a lot more simple than all the story telling above and like the landlord requests probably requires the check writer to initiate. Once that money is in another's hands the middle man has no input into it.
 

TangoJuliet

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The fact is the OP has given us conflicting stories.

What exactly is conflicting? I've posted everything that I've learned minute by minute.

The LL started all of this by lying about the check. Had he been honest to start NONE of this garbage would have ensued.

According to the LL the check got deposited by someone other than him. Whether he knowingly knew who deposited that is up for debate. He claims that no one he knows made the deposit. The LL has a track record of lying.

Like someone mentioned, he could have given the check to someone for their services and now wants to "double dip".

What the LL needs from me is to fill out the affidavit so the process can start for him to get the money back. I've posted the issues I've had with him over these 9 months and the guy has been less then willing to do anything for us. The only time something gets fixed is when a repair is absolutely necessary. It took him 3 months to get his jet ski off the property, his things are still in the attic and shed.

The LL takes his time and doesn't go out of the way then why should I? I made a couple requests for compensation and that is totally up to him. If he wants to do it then great, I'll fill out the paperwork and get my bank to do what they need to do. If he doesn't, then he'll have to find a way to get his money back. My best bet would be to get the police get involved but for some reason he hasn't even contacted them.

Hey, if someone stole a check from me you better believe that I'd be on the phone with the bank and police. So who is the LL trying to protect is the real question.
 

alkemyst

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What exactly is conflicting? I've posted everything that I've learned minute by minute.

The LL started all of this by lying about the check. Had he been honest to start NONE of this garbage would have ensued.

According to the LL the check got deposited by someone other than him. Whether he knowingly knew who deposited that is up for debate. He claims that no one he knows made the deposit. The LL has a track record of lying.

Like someone mentioned, he could have given the check to someone for their services and now wants to "double dip".

What the LL needs from me is to fill out the affidavit so the process can start for him to get the money back. I've posted the issues I've had with him over these 9 months and the guy has been less then willing to do anything for us. The only time something gets fixed is when a repair is absolutely necessary. It took him 3 months to get his jet ski off the property, his things are still in the attic and shed.

The LL takes his time and doesn't go out of the way then why should I? I made a couple requests for compensation and that is totally up to him. If he wants to do it then great, I'll fill out the paperwork and get my bank to do what they need to do. If he doesn't, then he'll have to find a way to get his money back. My best bet would be to get the police get involved but for some reason he hasn't even contacted them.

Hey, if someone stole a check from me you better believe that I'd be on the phone with the bank and police. So who is the LL trying to protect is the real question.

hey you are the renter, you are lucky someone is providing shelter for you at a price you can afford.

Also rental of any property doesn't mean the landlord has to remove anything.

The court can make you fill out the same affidavit if you end up there...you will not be compensated for that time either.

It's doubtful he is going to go on record at the bank with that affidavit if he is trying to fraud.

All that you are doing is being the conduit to the person with the money.
 

GotIssues

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hey you are the renter, you are lucky someone is providing shelter for you at a price you can afford.

If the rent was way under the rest of the area, this statement wouldn't be completely wrong. Being as rent is $2500, I'm guessing it's not low. It evensounds a bit on the high side, being as right now a $200k mortgage falls in the range of $1100/mo (~$1400-1500ish after taxes and insurance).

Also rental of any property doesn't mean the landlord has to remove anything.

It would depend on the rental agreement. You are making assumptions on what that is.

The court can make you fill out the same affidavit if you end up there...you will not be compensated for that time either.

How does that make it impossible for him to ask his LL for compensation? He's doing his LL a favor by getting more involved in this than he really has to be. The facts remain: He paid his rent, LL admits (albeit through getting caught in a lie to try to place blame on the OP) to having been paid, LL endorsed the check and the check was "stolen." The LL is trying to blame OP for the LL's mistakes, when the OP doesn't have a spec of responsibility.

It's doubtful he is going to go on record at the bank with that affidavit if he is trying to fraud.

It would be dumb, but people do dumb things all the time. I certainly wouldn't sign an affidavit prepared by the LL, in any case. He's already shown that he is willing to lie in order to pass responsibility onto someone else.

All that you are doing is being the conduit to the person with the money.

He performed his required responsibilities as a renter, he is not responsible for what is stolen from the Landlord.
 
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TangoJuliet

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hey you are the renter, you are lucky someone is providing shelter for you at a price you can afford.

Wow, you're serious?? The is a reason why there are renter's and landlord rights. As a landlord you cannot present a property one way and then give it another way. I was presented a 3 bedroom house, finished basement and a acre backyard.

What I got is a 3 bedroom house, a basement that I cannot use because of mold and a backyard that is torn up. We are pretty much restricted to living in a couple rooms and half a backyard yet paying full price. There is nothing in the lease that says there is any part of the house that is restricted.

You want to say that I shouldn't have accepted the property this way when we moved in? Sure that probably would have been the best move but then I would have been stuck with no place to live, a truck full of my stuff, a cranky 1 year old and a 8 month pregnant wife.

Also rental of any property doesn't mean the landlord has to remove anything.

The court can make you fill out the same affidavit if you end up there...you will not be compensated for that time either.

It's doubtful he is going to go on record at the bank with that affidavit if he is trying to fraud.

All that you are doing is being the conduit to the person with the money.

You are correct, he doesn't have to remove anything. I guess all of his equipment that is the shed is fair game. I guess if it winds up in the trash or sold then thats just something he will have to deal with.
 

TangoJuliet

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3/16 Update

LL: TJ, in this case anyone who has your name and address can open a bank account in your name, someone could grab a piece of mail out of your mailbox and do so. I am not going to go back and forth anymore. I will pay for the $110 plan which will protect against any damages. I will bring a check for that and oil when we meet to sign this form.

Me: I am done discussing this issue with you. Let me know when you would like to pick up your rent check for April. Your part of the oil bill is due no later then 4/2/2012.
 

Ns1

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3/16 Update

LL: TJ, in this case anyone who has your name and address can open a bank account in your name, someone could grab a piece of mail out of your mailbox and do so. I am not going to go back and forth anymore. I will pay for the $110 plan which will protect against any damages. I will bring a check for that and oil when we meet to sign this form.

Me: I am done discussing this issue with you. Let me know when you would like to pick up your rent check for April. Your part of the oil bill is due no later then 4/2/2012.

win

:thumbsup:
 

Blieb

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I just wanted to take the opportunity to post in this thread.

The ridiculousness of it as a whole, and the retarded ramblings within is something we can all be proud of!
 

alkemyst

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3/16 Update

LL: TJ, in this case anyone who has your name and address can open a bank account in your name, someone could grab a piece of mail out of your mailbox and do so. I am not going to go back and forth anymore. I will pay for the $110 plan which will protect against any damages. I will bring a check for that and oil when we meet to sign this form.

Me: I am done discussing this issue with you. Let me know when you would like to pick up your rent check for April. Your part of the oil bill is due no later then 4/2/2012.

LoL at you calling the terms now!

Sounds like the landlord is willing to work with you and you are doing everything to be a dick about things.

They do not have to 'pick up' their check BTW, it's up to you to get it to them.

As far as their personal items, many homes around here rent without garage access. The landlords use them for storage. Should you sell off or destroy that property, it's the same as theft in Florida.