Originally posted by: mugs
I wonder if this causes problems with their computer software. I mean, if you're a guy designing Zimbabwean POS systems, you probably wouldn't have thought that a loaf of bread would cost billions of dollars someday.
Edit: I guess I should have read the whole article. 😱
Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: mugs
I wonder if this causes problems with their computer software. I mean, if you're a guy designing Zimbabwean POS systems, you probably wouldn't have thought that a loaf of bread would cost billions of dollars someday.
Edit: I guess I should have read the whole article. 😱
I'm gonna guess that not too many shops in Zimbabwe were using complex POS systems in the first place.
Originally posted by: darkxshade
Are there any ZWD denomination in coins?
Originally posted by: Special K
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: Special K
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: Special K
What exactly is causing their hyperinflation? I have read several news articles about the situation in Zimbabwe but none of them offered a cause for it. The best I could infer was that many farms have been seized over the past several years, making food and basic goods extremely scarce, which would in turn raise the price dramatically. Is that correct?
the government keeps printing money. just like ours is but on a larger scale and no real economy or value to back it up.
What are they spending it on? What's their excuse for this?
Stupid bullshit with no legitimate excuse. Just refer to our govt. spending policy.
Who are they buying from though? If they aren't buying stuff within their own country, then wouldn't the inflation be occurring elsewhere?
Originally posted by: Mark R
Originally posted by: Special K
Who are they buying from though? If they aren't buying stuff within their own country, then wouldn't the inflation be occurring elsewhere?
The government prints ZW$, which it attempts to convert to hard currency in order to import goods, and to make payments on loans. Everyone on the outside sees the ZW$ as pretty much worthless, so won't touch it, so every day, the few people left who will change it, want more and more and more ZW$ for 1 USD.
At the same time the actual objective 'value' of the country is reducing - fewer viable farms, fewer viable businesses, lower health and quality of life of the population, less mining/other resource output. The 'value' of a paper currency is essentially, the value of the environment in which it can be used to buy things, divided by the number of currency units available. In Zimbabwe, the problem is a rapidly increasing number of $ and catastrophic descent into poverty of the country, because all the productive infrastructure has been destroyed.
Originally posted by: Special K
What exactly is causing their hyperinflation? I have read several news articles about the situation in Zimbabwe but none of them offered a cause for it. The best I could infer was that many farms have been seized over the past several years, making food and basic goods extremely scarce, which would in turn raise the price dramatically. Is that correct?
Originally posted by: sdifox
according to xe.com, 1.00 CAD = 18,512,362,817.62 ZWD
Originally posted by: Mark R
Originally posted by: sdifox
according to xe.com, 1.00 CAD = 18,512,362,817.62 ZWD
My mistake. My data was out of date.
Current exchange rate is actually about $500 billion : 1 USD.
Zimbabwe business and stock data
Originally posted by: Special K
So why is the inflation occurring within Zimbabwe if all of their dollars are flowing out of it?
Originally posted by: darkxshade
Are there any ZWD denomination in coins?
Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: darkxshade
Are there any ZWD denomination in coins?
No, but you can buy a 5 cent note on ebay.
Is $.000000000000005 equal to $0?
Originally posted by: Mark R
Probably because the currency isn't actually flowing out. What use is ZW$ outside of the country.
Originally posted by: Mark R
It has to find its way back, if only because people need to spend it - the posession of foreign currencies in Zimbabwe is banned (unless you are authorized by the government) and will get you beaten, jailed and/or shot - even quoting a price in US$ is enough to get yourself done over.
Originally posted by: Mark R
The govt tries to pay US$ debts, by printing ZW$, and changing them - meanwhile, businesses receive incoming US$ from exports, etc. and are forced to convert to ZW$.
Originally posted by: Special K
Originally posted by: Mark R
Probably because the currency isn't actually flowing out. What use is ZW$ outside of the country.
Well the currency has to flow out if Zimbabwe is paying foreign creditors and buying goods from other countries.
Originally posted by: Mark R
It has to find its way back, if only because people need to spend it - the posession of foreign currencies in Zimbabwe is banned (unless you are authorized by the government) and will get you beaten, jailed and/or shot - even quoting a price in US$ is enough to get yourself done over.
But this means that the rest of the world is obviously buying something from Zimbabwe, right? Other currencies are converted into ZW$, which end up back in their economy?
Originally posted by: Mark R
The govt tries to pay US$ debts, by printing ZW$, and changing them - meanwhile, businesses receive incoming US$ from exports, etc. and are forced to convert to ZW$.
I'm confused. Above you said the currency isn't actually flowing out, but here you say the government pays US$ debts by printing ZW$ and changing them. That means they are flowing out of the country (to the US in this case), right?
I'm just trying to understand all of this.
Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
What would stop me from buying a crapload of their currency, and sitting on it until it comes back down? Then I profit once their economy comes back into check.
Originally posted by: sciencewhiz
In Germany in late 1923, the amount of paper marks it would take to buy firewood would take longer to burn then the firewood. Bread was 80 billion marks per loaf.
Originally posted by: thehstrybean
Originally posted by: sciencewhiz
In Germany in late 1923, the amount of paper marks it would take to buy firewood would take longer to burn then the firewood. Bread was 80 billion marks per loaf.
The crazy thing: The exchange rate is 1:1.25, and Germany has one of the strongest (if not the) economies in Europe...Huge export to import ratio...
Originally posted by: Special K
Well the currency has to flow out if Zimbabwe is paying foreign creditors and buying goods from other countries.
Originally posted by: chuckywang
Why not just get rid of some of those zeroes. Divide everything by 1,000,000 (bills and prices) and do everything that way?
This sounds like "but this one goes to 11" bit in Spinal Tap.
Originally posted by: Mark R
The only people who want this are the few businesses left that can export anything.
Originally posted by: Mark R
The problem is that even the exporters don't want the ZW$
Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus
What would stop me from buying a crapload of their currency, and sitting on it until it comes back down? Then I profit once their economy comes back into check.