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Blazer7

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Hello Mr EateryOfPiza,

KillerG has the right to officially file his complain if he wants to but this does not mean that the rest of us will be involved in this. GB will most likely prefer to deal with us individually as they are doing now and settle this whole thing as discretely as possible. If you want to resolve this with GB through their replacement program I don?t see anything holding you back. It is your right to accept GB?s offer and settle this as it is KillerG?s right to take his case to the court if he likes. So don?t worry about this.
 

EateryOfPiza

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Originally posted by: Blazer7
Hello Mr EateryOfPiza,

KillerG has the right to officially file his complain if he wants to but this does not mean that the rest of us will be involved in this. GB will most likely prefer to deal with us individually as they are doing now and settle this whole thing as discretely as possible. If you want to resolve this with GB through their replacement program I don?t see anything holding you back. It is your right to accept GB?s offer and settle this as it is KillerG?s right to take his case to the court if he likes. So don?t worry about this.

I don't mind him taking this to court. I mind him blustering about his lawsuit on this public forum.
 

Blazer7

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This is a public forum for a reason. The reason is that people should be free to exchange opinions and share with others. There may be others here that do care and want to know about what KillerG is doing. It is only fair that he gets the chance to speak his mind as the rest of us. Personally I will settle with GB if their offer is right for me but I will definitely respect anyone that takes a different route if he think he must. It?s all about freedom.
 

EateryOfPiza

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Originally posted by: Blazer7
This is a public forum for a reason. The reason is that people should be free to exchange opinions and share with others. There may be others here that do care and want to know about what KillerG is doing. It is only fair that he gets the chance to speak his mind as the rest of us. Personally I will settle with GB if their offer is right for me but I will definitely respect anyone that takes a different route if he think he must. It?s all about freedom.

When freedom impacts others, you no longer have absolute freedom to do whatever you want. Think about yelling fire in a crowded theater.
 

Blazer7

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Hello Mr EateryOfPiza,

All we know so far is that KillerG has filed an official complaint against GB and may take his case to court. This is what we know.

What we don?t know is whether this affects the rest of us. You assume it may affect us all while I disagree. If you can provide any proof that this is the case then I?ll be happy to reconsider but until then I won?t trample on anyones freedom to express oneself based on assumptions. I believe that this is not your intention either.
 

GigabyteColin

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Hi Mr KillerG

I just wanted to reply to a quote from your earlier post: "Don?t care it is GB?s fault for not making it right for the consumer."

How can we make it right for a consumer who hasn't contacted us about fixing the problem? I guess you have decided to go the legal route, which is your right. However, your statement was a bit insulting to me personally who has been working some pretty late nights the past couple of weeks trying to make it right (and no, Taiwan doesn't have laws about overtime compensation haha).

I'm obviously not a lawyer, so if this thread is going to become a conversation about that, I don't think I can be of any further use to anyone here. I'll still try to help you guys out, but as Mr. EateryOfPiza aptly put it, "Legal threats tend to get the lawyers involved who tend to get everybody else involved to shut up"

Regards,
Colin
 

Curr

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Leo contacted me the day after I sent him and email, and when I missed sending him something that I had told him I would, he contacted me the next day wondering if I had sent it.

Chuck contacted me pretty much within an hour of me providing Leo with my mobo s/n which means they are on the ball.

They are doing a bang up job here in the states to make this right.

I applaud Colin, Leo and Chuck for working with less-than-statisfied customers.

And a reminder to everyone to not shoot the messenger, Colin, Leo, Chuck, or another GB employee who is trying to do the right thing. I work for Analog Devices, Inc as an engineer and I can assure you that these people do *not* make the decisions that have impacted us (Sales, Marketing, and Applications Eng and their managers) and they are trying to help us.

In short... don't be a dick to them, it's not their fault.
 

jaggerwild

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Originally posted by: mjrtoo
How long could I expect it will take to be contacted by Leo?


Good Morning all!
If you sent it in to the proper e-mail address, then I'd think not to long. If it has been a few days then I'd go ahead and phone him, just in case he is very busy.
Regards!
 

justinburton

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There is hope for those with SLI!!!!! Leo from Gigabyte has been a great help for me so far. He told me that my case is in consideration in the fact that the X48-DQ6 cannot fully replace my 680i because I have 3-way SLI. I would have to throw away $1000 in video cards to settle with the X48. I told them that I am will to pay the difference between the n680i and n790i, which is around $50 I assume. I will keep everyone updated.

PS: Leo has called me 5 times in the last week, I was busy everytime he called but he has been very persistent in getting out problems solved. I also applaud the messengers.
 

EateryOfPiza

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Originally posted by: justinburton
There is hope for those with SLI!!!!! Leo from Gigabyte has been a great help for me so far. He told me that my case is in consideration in the fact that the X48-DQ6 cannot fully replace my 680i because I have 3-way SLI. I would have to throw away $1000 in video cards to settle with the X48. I told them that I am will to pay the difference between the n680i and n790i, which is around $50 I assume. I will keep everyone updated.

PS: Leo has called me 5 times in the last week, I was busy everytime he called but he has been very persistent in getting out problems solved. I also applaud the messengers.

That's good news. I'm going down the same path as you. He's only called me back once so far, to say to give him a couple more days. Hopefully this will work out for us.
 

Blazer7

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It's quite refreshing to see so many positive posts for a change and it is very nice to see so many people getting somewhere with this. It seems that the vast majority have clearly made their choice to work things out with GB and the folks there are really doing their best. Cool !! :thumbsup::cool:
 

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For those that wants to continue the nVidia SLI route, good luck to u. (and Gigabyte make sure u back ur motherboard this time with whatever u advertise.) I am glad I'm going back to Intel chipset so I can avoid nVidia's issue. I'll just upgrade to a new GPU instead of taking the dual/triple SLI route.
 

Wsmitty

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10 days now and I have not recieved my first call yet. I keep reading post of a phone # to call but all I have ever seen is the E-mail address to send to our local contact no #! Would be nice if I had a least heard by now, they said 1 or 2 days.
 

TheBeagle

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Good Morning Everyone.

Here's an excerpt of some posted thoughts of today on the other Thread:

As we are all well aware, there appear to be efforts afoot by GB to reach an accommodation with the N680i board owners concerning the failure of that board to perform as advertised. And we are all also aware of all the screaming and bitching that had to occur on this Forum, and a few other places as well, that caused Anandtech to make a critical assessment of GB's customer support (or lack thereof) concerning the failed N680i board. All of that is history, and well documented on this Thread and its companion Thread on this Forum. So, we really don't need to rehash all of the unfortunate history, day after day.

GB has offered, among a few other resolution options, to replace the failed N680i board with a new GA-X48-DQ6 board - even swap. As I noted in an earlier posting, that particular option will result in the loss of SLI function, since that feature is not presently available with an Intel chipset. Otherwise, that swap is fairly comparable. A few other members have indicated a possible other solution being discussed, namely, awaiting the arrival of the N790i boards due to an absolute need for SLI, but also realizing the need to purchase replacement DDR3 memory sticks (since DDR2 is not supported by that chipset). That may become an additional option, going forward.

Now to the issue at hand. Mr. KillerG appears to be unsatisfied with the options for resolution being tended by GB, which, of course, is his right. It is also Mr. KillerG's right to initiate whatever legal action he chooses to engage to seek relief for the failed N680i board that he has. There is no question that he has those legal rights as a citizen of the State of Washington. And once initiated, the various agencies in WA will review those claims and take whatever action may be appropriate, including calling GB to answer those claims. Quite honestly, on the issue of false advertising, the claims are a sure winner - there's little doubt about that.

However, and unfortunately for GB, that's not all that they have to be concerned about. If the authorities in WA were to determine that GB's actions in the matter were either "knowing" or "reckless" then certain types of serious, class-based, remedial actions could be utilized to cause GB to "cure" the harm caused by its actions (or inactions), and sometimes those remedial actions can be quite painful for an errant manufacturer. Now it is equally obvious to me, that GB is reducing the "pool" of known unhappy N680i board owners by these recent proposed accommodations, by offering these swaps, and thereby reaching what the law calls "accord and satisfaction." In most jurisdictions, the acceptance of an accommodation such as the ones currently being offered by GB, would bar the owner of a N680i board from seeking additional relief.

However, those instances of individual resolution do not bar the State of Washington, or any other jurisdiction with similar consumer protection laws, from itself going after GB on account of alleged violations of various types of unfair trade practices statutes. The right of the State of Washington to pursue a global remedy is distinct from the individual rights for just relief of the individual owners. All the foregoing discussion does not affect an individual's right to seek to initiate a class-based civil action against GB for violation of some trade practices laws, and if granted class status by a Court, that plaintiff owner (and the law firm that represents him/her) would be permitted to represent the interest of the entire class. That type of litigation is very lengthy and expensive to pursue, but can be very costly to a manufacturer (if the plaintiff prevails), in certain situations.

So I suppose it all distills down to what an aggrieved party wants from a manufacturer such as GB in this type of scenario. If the person just wants to be made reasonably whole, then some form of accommodation between the individual owner and GB is a preferable method of resolution. On the other hand, if the aggrieved owner wants his/her "Pound of Flesh" (Shakespeare, The Merchant of Venice - Bargain of Shylock), then the true object is revenge and not relief. It is sometimes necessary to seek a Pound of Flesh from an opposing party on account of their unwillingness to be reasonable in reaching a balanced settlement of a dispute. And, of course "reasonable" is a relative word and concept, depending on all of the circumstances in a particular situation.

So Mr. KillerG, a fair question to you is what are you seeking? Are you looking for a reasonable accommodation from GB which will provide you relief from the failed aspects of the N680i board? Or are you looking for a Pound of Flesh. The former you can likely get from GB by engaging in some civil discourse with the GB reps. It is beyond question that these Threads and Mr. Gary's outstanding article have certainly procured GB's serious attention - so the forum of resolution is in place. On the other hand if you want revenge - but remember, "Revenge Is Mine Saith The Lord" (Romans 12:19) - then the legal route is the only recourse.

A number of members/posters, myself included, were/are very vocal advocates for the individual and collective rights of the N680i board owners, and we brought pressure to bear on this Forum and other places as well, to finally "get the attention" of GB. Now that that attention has been obtained, the dialog has begun, and some progress has been made - that's the very nature of these types of disputes. In a perfect world, we would all hope that a giant corporation such as GB would have been an exemplary good corporate citizen as soon as it knew one its products has failed to deliver as promised. But that's a bit of fantasy. Unfortunately GB's middle managers chose to basically stonewall and ignore the issues with the failed N680i board, until it reached a level that it was about to explode and cause some serious harm to GB's business interests and give GB's competitor's a potential business advantage, resulting in a real potential for loss of market share. That's what really got GB's attention, when it was about to hit them in the pocketbook. Those responsible for this fiasco within the GB structure ought to have been significantly disciplined, if not fired for exposing the corporation to this kind of grief - but those are decisions that GB must make.

In summary, those owners who want a replacement accommodation from GB as their chosen form of relief should pursue that route. Those who want a Pound of Flesh, should sharpen up their knives, and march off to war. Good Luck to Everyone, whichever road you choose to travel.

It's some food for thought for everyone involved with seeking a resolution for your failed N680i boards.

Best regards to everyone. Have a nice day. TheBeagle :D :beer:

 

jaggerwild

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Originally posted by: Wsmitty
10 days now and I have not recieved my first call yet. I keep reading post of a phone # to call but all I have ever seen is the E-mail address to send to our local contact no #! Would be nice if I had a least heard by now, they said 1 or 2 days.


Hi Guys,

Sorry about my post last week. I was under the impression that the US RMA fully understood the policy, but I seemed to have jumped the gun. Yesterday we were able to better coordinate all local RMAs, so we have come up with the following solution. For those wanting resolution, please send an email to the contact windows at the bottom of my post according to your region. In the email header, please state: GA-680SLI-DQ6 1333 FSB Core 2 Extreme Support Issue. Also, please include your contact details, and most importantly your phone number. That contact person will call you personally within 1-2 days. They are fully aware of the situation and of our policy, and will help to solve this issue for each of you.
Again, we are sorry for taking so long to resolve this matter, but we really do want to make the situation right for you guys.

Asia Pacific (including Australia and South Africa): Alex Huang (alex.huang@gigabyte.com.tw)
China: Zhang XueJun (sonysy.zhang@gigabyte.com.cn)
Europe: Alex Huang (alex.huang@gigabyte.com.tw)
Taiwan: Jimmy Lin (jimmy.lin@gigabyte.com.tw)
US: Leo Wang (leowang@gigabyte-usa.com


Good Morning all!
This is for Mr. WSmitty, you have to email him with the subject being:Ga-N680SLI-DQ6: Also Attention LEO. Then give him your phone number to call you should be all good from there.
Regards!

 

GriMRapeR

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I am shaking my head here. I dont know how many times I have posted it but no one seems to be listening -

I HAVE GOT A FULL REFUND FROM GIGABYTE

End of story!!!!!

Why are some of you accepting a replacement board you are not happy with?

Why are some of you prepared to wait for GB to bring out a 790i?

Why are some of you huffing and puffing about legal action?

I have provided my completed case number a number of times in this forum but I am yet to see anyone take up on it.

Pure and simple. My case was dealt with months ago and I now have an eVGA 780i. My refund was given based on my official complaint that the board was "misrepresented" in the advertising. After a few months and numerous emails, duckshoving etc they eventually admitted to "misrepresentation" and was ultimately offered a full refund. I have all the correspoondence saved including their admiossion to "misrepresentation" (notice I did not use the term false advertising, "misrepresentation" was THEIR wording)

Check out the official complaint case. I will list the case number for the LAST time and thats is because I feel like no one here is listening. The case number is: ID:554359 It was handled by Gigabyte Australia after being forwarded on from the Taiwan office and it was finalised about a month ago.

Can anyone understand what I am trying to say???

If they gave one customer a refund then they have to do it for every customer who has the same circumstances.

If you are not happy with the replacement program or the rework offer then stop bloody complaining about it when all you have to do is quote my case number and demand a refund - THEY HAVE TO DO IT - period. Then you can take your money and go buy a board that does meet you needs from a company that does offer the customer service you expect - like I have done. - sheesh!!!!!
 

Wsmitty

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This is for jaggerwild, guess you did not read my posts, I did send in the E-mail as required "to the letter",now 11 days ago.Colin has now PM'd me and is checking to see what happened. It seems that somehow, and I do understand how it could happen, I got lost in the confusion. Colin let me know that Leo should contact me tonight.
 

TheBeagle

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Good Morning Mr. Grim & Everyone.

I know that from a logical point of view one may reasonably believe that once GB gives a cash refund to one customer, they're obligated to follow suite for everyone. However, that may not necessarily be the case. As you may recall, when Mr. Grim first told us all about his good fortune to receive a full refund, I inquired about whether or not he had some particularly strong consumer protection statutes in his jurisdiction that might have been a persuasive factor leading to his refund. He indicated that he didn't think so, or was otherwise unaware of any such enhanced protections.

However, I believe that once the GB folks began to realize the scope of this problem, they decided that they would not voluntarily provide cash refunds to owners of the failed N680i boards, since that meant an extra net loss for them (difference between the cost to manufacturer the boards versus the full purchase price, which represents probably near half of what was paid for each board at retail). Therefore, I suspect that without litigation, either individually or as a class, or having their corporate testicles squeezed by some consumer protection agency, GB is not going to continue to offer cash refunds.

It is also in GB's interest to keep this group of customers (N680i owners) in the GB camp by providing the X48 board replacements, and even the N790i replacements if that comes to pass. GB may also attempt to blame a regional customer service error for the fact that Mr. Grim obtained a cash refund for his board in the first place. The mere fact that no one else has been offered or obtained a cash refund (that we know about), is itself the strongest indication that GB is not going to go down the cash refund trail, unless legally compelled to do so.

So, as I posted earlier, each individual N680i board owner will have to make a choice for him/herself as to what path they wish to travel. I don't see GB willingly providing cash refunds as an offered option, unless they are legally compelled to do so, OR, unless they get their corporate chestnuts roasted some more by a significant media site, i.e. Anandtech, for failing to offer that option. Aside from those possibilities, GB is not likely going to cough up chunks of cash to quell the discontent, especially since it has been able to make some inroads into the pool of rightfully discontented N680i owners through the swap program.

However, I'm also quite sure that some technologically-moxie law firm may launch a lawsuit if they believe they can reap a significant legal fee by doing so, since most consumer protection statutes require that the losing manufacturer pay all the plaintiff's legal fees, expenses and costs, as part of any verdict or settlement. So we shall all see how this ends up.

But one fact is certainly a glowing truth in this sad circumstance, that is, GIGABYTE BROUGHT THIS ALL ON ITSELF BY ITS CORPORATE ARROGANCE in not dealing with it effectively, quietly and very promptly when it first began to surface. This is even more true when you consider the fact that other manufacturers of N680i boards stepped up right away and made things right for their customers. This left GB standing alone in the arrogance arena. It is also very interesting to observe that GB has NEVER APOLOGIZED to its customers on account of this debacle. Of course, in some cultures, that may be perceived as a "loss of face," and would be unthinkable. However, in the western world at least, that would be viewed as the right and courageous thing to do.

So, Gigabyte, LOOK INTO YOUR CORPORATE MIRROR, there you will find the sole entity that is absolutely responsible for all this grief and negative business effect! It is written, "Ye shall reap what ye shall sow" (Galatians 6:7-10)

Just some food for thought. Best regards to everyone. Have a nice day. TheBeagle :D :beer:



 

jaggerwild

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Originally posted by: Wsmitty
This is for jaggerwild, guess you did not read my posts, I did send in the E-mail as required "to the letter",now 11 days ago.Colin has now PM'd me and is checking to see what happened. It seems that somehow, and I do understand how it could happen, I got lost in the confusion. Colin let me know that Leo should contact me tonight.

Good morning all!
Wsmitty, sorry I didn't read it. Was trying to help is all, glade you got it taken care of!
Regards all!
 

Hxx

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For those of you who are interested in getting the x48-dq6, you might wanna read this review:
http://www.custompc.co.uk/revi...gabyte-ga-x48-dq6.html

"An X48 motherboard is all about speed and extreme overclocking, and these are precisely the two qualities that the GA-X48-DQ6 fails to deliver. Out of the box, the GA-X48-DQ6 produces only average performance, which even overclocking can't correct. Given that it can't be overclocked as far as other X38 and X48 motherboards, the GA-X48-DQ6 is best avoided, despite the obvious effort that Gigabyte has put into the excellent PCB design, and the array of voltage options in the BIOS."

Although overclocking might not be a great concern for some of you, I don't want you guys to have the same problems / support issues with their new x48-dq6.
Just my 2 cents.
Thanks
 

TheBeagle

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Good Evening Mr. Hxx & Everyone.

I had previously seen the article that you referenced. That author of that article from the UK seemed to be a bit bent toward a certain finding in that brief piece. I also noticed that he didn't provide ANY real specifics about the board settings and various standard testing sequences and procedures. The board he was testing was two BIOS revisions older than what is currently available, and there were no specifics about what range of processors they used either (Dual, Quad, etc). So, on balance, inasmuch as that single "report" is not being echoed by other assessments from reputable electronic media sources, or by my own experience with the X48 board, I tend not to give it much credence. However, other readers may see it differently. In any event, thanks for the reference link, and welcome aboard this Thread.

Best regards to everyone. Have a nice evening. TheBeagle :D :beer:

 

Hxx

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Hi Mr Beagle and everybody

@Beagle thanks for the quick reply and for welcoming me aboard. I trust your knowledge
and i also would like to thank you for all the info that you've shared with all of us.

The truth is that I've been reading this thread since the day it started. I purchased my 680sli-dq6 board back in march 07 and got alot of info from this thread. However, I got sick and tired of Gigabyte's lies and crappy support for their "high end" product and decided to sell my board and go with an Asus P5E which I'm extremely pleased with. Thankfully, Asus is doing a really great job supporting their product.

If their x48-dq6 performs just as good if not better than my Asus P5E, than you guys are going to be some very happy cutomers. I hope that this trade in program will work for all of you and hope u guys get your money's worth.

Also, special thanks to Blazer7, you've been of a great help man, especially back when I had my 680i-dq6 running.

Good luck to everybody.