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EateryOfPiza

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Originally posted by: EateryOfPiza
1) The BIOS cant detect the Vcore, it gives me a red FAIL in PC Health (and a red FAIL for 1.8v ram but im not worried about that), which is annoying becuase I need to know in order to overclock properly. (Right now I can get it to 276 MHz FSB x9 multiplier for 2.48 ghz on Auto system voltage control. i suspect i can do better with manual voltage control)


Now its detecting my Vcore sometimes.... but not always. Odd
 

practor

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I have cut and pasted some info I sent to a friend. But I think IC's might be your prob

They are referring to the VDimm (memory voltage) of the modules, as the specified timings of the modules are equal. Although, I would assume that he failed to advise you that the Corsair's modules contain different ICs depending on the module revision, therefore if the modules do not contain the version 1 revision (i.e. v1.1, v1.2, v1.4) of the module they do not contain the Micron ICs (i.e. D9DCT, D9GMH, D9GKX). Micron ICs are extremely responsive to voltage increase although the maximum VDimm recommend to prevent electromigration is 2.4V for everyday usage (recommend using a case fan above the modules for cooling). The Crucial Ballistix PC2-6400 and the G.Skill F2-6400PHU2-2GBHZ contain the Micron ICs and therefore I would recommend the Crucial Ballistix PC2-6400 2GB D9GMH DDR2 800 CL4-4-4-12 2.2V that currently has a price of $199.00 or the G.Skill F2-6400PHU2-2GBHZ 2GB D9GMH DDR2 800 CL4-4-4-12 2.0-2.1V

CRUCIAL BALLISTIX PC2-6400 2GB D9GMH DDR2 800 CL4-4-4-12 2.2V
G.SKILL F2-6400PHU2-2GBHZ 2GB D9GMH DDR2 800 CL4-4-4-12 2.0-2.1V
CORSAIR TWIN2X2048-6400C4 V1.X 2GB DDR2 800 CL4-4-4-12 2.1V


http://www.houseofhelp.com/for...showthread.php?t=57334
http://www.xtremesystems.org/f...?p=1866109&postcount=1
 

mobileone

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well since everyone is waiting for the bois release...I was wondering how peoples experiences were with pulling the heat sinks off of the NB and SB, and what was under them....do they need some arctic silver and are they lappable?

TIA
mb1
 

Fallen Kell

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I will have to check what I just installed. My system was destroyed from the Nvidia 7 series Beta Vista 64 driver (explorer.exe crashed every 5 seconds, making it unusable). Even after uninstalling the Beta drivers and using the normal ones, the video driver then would crash with any graphically intense anything (from opening a webpage, to scrolling on the page, to watching video or flash, let alone a game). I tried to roll-back, however all my roll-backs were corrupted somehow (windows would not recognize any of them, even though I specifically made one at the time I built the system as well as made one before putting on the beta drivers).

Anyway, I just rebuilt the system because nothing I did could fix it, even drive cleaner.... I think I put in 15.00G, as I think that is what Gigabyte has on their website. I think I only downloaded the graphics driver from Nvidia...

On a side note, it was probably a good thing I had to rebuild, because I opened it up to try and fix a floppy problem and saw that my back intake fan was not running (I have a Lian-Li PC-201B which has a rear intake right next to where the CPU is located and it has a side exhaust up near where the graphics card is so that it pulls out all the hot air that is around the graphics and other cards, a nice design if you ask me). My temp alarms where not going off, so everything was still very cool even without that fan, it helps that the case is a full tower with plenty of room in it...
 

bka4u2c

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So whats the latest word on overclocking on a Rev1 board using a quad core chip. With the recent price drop I ordered a Q6600 and sold my E6600. I was running the E6600 at 3.4 daily. Will I be able to obtain a similar overclock with the Q6600? I haven't updated the bios since F2 I think. You know the saying if it ain't broke....

I have been following the thread since my last post but since this board hasn't given me any problems I been a happy camper. Now I'll be installing this new CPU this weekend so I was just wondering if anybody has any experience with the quad-core and newer BIOS releases?

I also noticed the new 680i chipset drivers today on nVidia's website so I'll be using those as I do a fresh install of Vista Ult 64 after I install this chip.
 

Fallen Kell

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dlbetz, I have the one from Gigabyte installed. I didn't load the 15.01 from Nvidia... I might upgrade that however and let you know tonight (last night I spent re-flashing my BIOS, as it failed to boot when I changed my RAM into linked mode... real strange since I was running the same speed, unlinked already, don't know why.... it is a E6600 running at 333FSB and my RAM was running at 1000 unlinked, so I tried to change to linked mode but it failed to boot.... and then failed to even load the BIOS, so it went to the secondary BIOS, which I had kept as the original board shipping level, F2 in my case....).
 

Fallen Kell

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bka4u2c, just wondering why you upgraded simply to the Q6600. I know it has 2 more cores, but personally I would have waited for Penryn in a couple months. I mean, quad core overclocking has been pretty bad, so you are only likely to get just over stock speeds. I think you would have been better off to have stayed with your E6600 @ 3.4GHz instead of the Q6600 @ 2.6GHz.....
 

bka4u2c

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Originally posted by: Fallen Kell
bka4u2c, just wondering why you upgraded simply to the Q6600. I know it has 2 more cores, but personally I would have waited for Penryn in a couple months. I mean, quad core overclocking has been pretty bad, so you are only likely to get just over stock speeds. I think you would have been better off to have stayed with your E6600 @ 3.4GHz instead of the Q6600 @ 2.6GHz.....

Well I'm not one for keeping hardware for a long period of time. I'm surprised I've kept this motherboard this long actually. It just has been performing great and not many better options out there. (Although I almost bought the DFI680iLT, still might actually) I've seen people get quad's past 2.6, but not with the Gigabyte board, so I was wondering if anybody else had experience with them.

Most likely I won't have it long, as you stated Penryn is right around the corner and I will most likely be exchanging components here and there once released and researched. So yea, I'm a geek that likes to play with new technology when I can afford to. Since the price was reasonable I figured why not.
 

sskmercer

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Originally posted by: bka4u2c
So whats the latest word on overclocking on a Rev1 board using a quad core chip. With the recent price drop I ordered a Q6600 and sold my E6600. I was running the E6600 at 3.4 daily. Will I be able to obtain a similar overclock with the Q6600? I haven't updated the bios since F2 I think. You know the saying if it ain't broke....

I have been following the thread since my last post but since this board hasn't given me any problems I been a happy camper. Now I'll be installing this new CPU this weekend so I was just wondering if anybody has any experience with the quad-core and newer BIOS releases?

I also noticed the new 680i chipset drivers today on nVidia's website so I'll be using those as I do a fresh install of Vista Ult 64 after I install this chip.

Hi there bka4u2c, with the REV1 boards(still havnt seen much for REV2 boards) is they still appear to have a hard ceiling of about 325FSB on the Q6600. So it will allow you a modest O/C at that. Though it is rock solid it isnt super fast i know. Besides that it's a truly awesome board and unless Gary corrects me this is a Hardware concern and not bios related.

With the latest price drops i'll be getting myself a nice chip just so i dont have this board sitting there anymore:D.

Cheers

 

TheBeagle

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Good Evening Everyone,

I believe that I have some "Good News" to share with you with regard to my continuing problems with bootup on the N680i board. I took some very good advice from our colleague Mr. Gary, and wiped out the CMOS settings, and then rebooted. Then I set the "Optimized Defaults" (which was apparently a mistake), and then shut down, rebooted, and set all the BIOS settings as per usual. No luck with that routine, since I still got the constant reboots, and the message:

"Building DMI pool .............................................Flash ROM Protected"

So I decided to take another look at what I had done, and wiped out the CMOS settings again, rebooted, and this time on bootup I utilized the "Fail-Safe Defaults," and then went directly into the BIOS flash utility (Q-Flash), via the F8 key. In the Q-Flash, I changed the setting for "retain DMI settings" to disable, and also loaded the default CMOS settings from within Q-Flash. I then exited Q-Flash (F10 key) and shut down. On reboot, I went into the Setup, and set all the BIOS values to their full performance settings (as before), EXCEPT that I changed the value for "Flash ROM Protection" from "Auto" to "Enable."

When I rebooted at 384 x 9 (E6850), with auto voltages, the machine booted right up, with no reboot. After Vista 64 loaded, I shut it down cold, and then started it up again. It started again, went through the POST, no hesitation, and went right into Vista again. This sure looks like the best solution I've seen so far, and this PC is running quite well at 3.45 GHz at auto voltages, and the memory set at 5-5-5-15-2T. If this holds, it will be a miracle.

I've been racking my brain on what might be causing the reboot problem, and I think it has something to do with some DMI values that were being retained in the CMOS, and because I had the "Flash ROM Protection" set to Auto instead of Enable, that allowed those settings to be written to the BIOS during bootup, thus messing up the boot process. Now that's only my humble diagnosis of this recurring plague, but it seems the most logical answer. Many thanks to Mr. Gary for his suggestion about clearing the CMOS, etc., since that got me thinking in the right direction about the other steps that I needed to take.

I hope the foregoing may assist some of the other Forum members (and others) who have had that same type of problem. Take care and have a nice evening. TheBeagle :D :beer:
 

bka4u2c

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Originally posted by: sskmercer
Hi there bka4u2c, with the REV1 boards(still havnt seen much for REV2 boards) is they still appear to have a hard ceiling of about 325FSB on the Q6600. So it will allow you a modest O/C at that. Though it is rock solid it isnt super fast i know. Besides that it's a truly awesome board and unless Gary corrects me this is a Hardware concern and not bios related.

With the latest price drops i'll be getting myself a nice chip just so i dont have this board sitting there anymore:D.

Cheers

Thanks for the reply. It'll be nice to play with for a while considering the limit. Also to Beagle, thanks for all the updates regarding your troubleshooting and trial and error through this thread.
 

dlbetz

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Thanks Fallen! I was beginning to thinks I asked a question I should not have with no responses from no one. I am downloading as we speak to see if I have any issues. I also will update later and let you know if I notice anything.
 

cdfire

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Beagle, thanks for the info, please let us know if after say a week or so, if the "Building DMI pool .............................................Flash ROM Protected" has indeed been fixed by this method. As I posted before, with the F5b BIOS, which is the best BIOS version by far so far, this has not happened as much as past BIOS updates for me, but it still happens every once in a while and is rather annoying to say the least.
 

TheBeagle

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Good Morning Mr. Blazer and Mr. CD.

Mr. Blazer: I have a new E6850 which has a G0 stepping code. It has been VERY accommodating to OC, and, in fact, will accept a 384 x 9 setting for a 3.45 GHz result on standard voltage, with the memory forced to 5-5-5-15-2T, also at standard settings. My previous E6600 would have NEVER accepted that settings level without significant boosts to the voltage settings. I haven't pushed the E6850 too far as of yet, since I already know it will do 400 x 9 without much boost in the settings, and that's a fair bit of OC, even on a 3.0 GHz rated chip. I'll keep you posted on the OC results with this new G0 stepping code.

As for the newer versions of the Q6600 with a G0 stepping code, I am hopeful that those newer versions, coupled with the very recently released microcode from nVidia, will be the 'magic bullet" to allow the Quad-Core procs to OC on our boards. Given the outstanding OC capabilities of the E6850 with a stepping code of G0, the same code level for the Q6600 may do the trick. I will likely get my hands on one of those new Q6600s with a G0 code in a week or so, and then if Gigabyte comes through with the new BIOS which utilizes the new microcode, we'll be set to give it a run for the money. Stay tuned.

Mr. CD: I shutdown and restarted my rig last evening about a dozen times, and each time it booted up without any of those nagging reboots. I haven't changed any OC settings, etc since it was stabilized, so I'm not positive about it being a complete cure. However, I NEVER previously had that number of starts, stops, and restarts without encountering that DMI message and reboot situation. I'm almost afraid to tinker with it (but I eventually will, of course) since I'm just enjoying the flawless bootup sequence at the present time.

After I wrote the posting last evening on this whole problem, it seems that wiping out the retained DMI code (whatever it may have been), by the method I employed, was what the board needed for a fresh start. Incidentally, after I accomplished the rebirth of the flawless bootup sequence, I encountered an interesting collateral situation. About an hour after I "fixed" the problem, an alert message appeared on my screen indicating that my copy (100% legit) of Vista 64 Ultimate required activation within 3 days. Since I had already activated my OS months ago, I was quite surprised by that message. The alert message indicated that Windows Vista 64 had sensed that there was a major change in the hardware base for the previous activation, and that the OS needed to be re-activated.

Since the ONLY change in anything related to the hardware base of my PC was the CMOS procedure and BIOS settings outlined above, I suspect that that procedure did, in fact, wipe out the CMOS setting, including some stored DMI settings, that were residing within the bowels of the motherboard. It was a reasonably easy task to re-activate the OS, but it required a toll-free telephone conversation with someone, who by her accent, was located on the other side of the world from the USA. The M$ activation representative was very nice, and gave me the 48 digit code to get things back in shape. It would seem that the re-activation requirement may be proof of the wiping out process that I described. I'll keep you posted on whether or not this "fix" sticks. But for right now, it sure has been a blessing!

Best regards to everyone. TheBeagle :D :beer:
 

Fallen Kell

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Originally posted by: dlbetz
Thanks Fallen! I was beginning to thinks I asked a question I should not have with no responses from no one. I am downloading as we speak to see if I have any issues. I also will update later and let you know if I notice anything.

In case you havn't tried it yet, I upgraded to 15.01 last night myself. I played 2-3 hours of Counter Strike: Source last night with the new version and didn't detect any problems (no instability/crashes etc.). So everything seems fine. I have an E6600 @ 3.0GHz, 4GB Crucial/Buffalo RAM at 1GHz (all Micron D9 chips), a BFG 7800GTX (havn't upgraded yet, waiting on 8900 series), obviously this motherboard, a WD Raptor 150GB, and a 4 disk RAID5 array using Seagate 7200.9 (and 10 I think) 500GB disks on a Promise EX8350 PCI-E SATA RAID controller.
 

dlbetz

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Fallen, I also have tried it now. I have had no issues so far but also nothing that noticably help anything either. Will update again if anything changes thanks for the update.
 

Ozoneman

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Hi fellow Giga guys! I've been reading this thread the last couple days. I'm on about page 30. I recently purchased the Gigabyte 680i board. I will be putting things together starting tomorrow.

Gigabyte N680SLI-DQ6, version 2
Antec 900 case
Enermax 850 Galaxy
Scythe Ninja cooler
Partiot PC6400 ram 4 gig (2 gig X 2 sticks)
MSI 8800 ultra (factory clocked at 660/2300)
LIteon 20X DVDRW SATA
2 - 500 gig Seagate HD, 16meg, SATA
Primary monitor - 30 Dell LCD
Secondary monitor - 20 inch Dell LCD

Should receive tomorrow - Q6600, G0 stepping

What suggestions can you tell me? I'll be installing Windows XP for now. I won't be doing RAID.
 

justinburton

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Ozoneman,

I would suggest getting some WD Raptor hard drives. Those hard drives will slow your system down. Putting he 2 500GB in raid 0 (stripe) would speed up read/write access quite a bit and make your whole system run faster. All of the other components look very solid and well made.


I just got my QX6700 today, can't wait to try it out. Have to go out to the bars tonight though, so probably this weekend I will install it.
 

Blazer7

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Mr. Blazer: I have a new E6850 which has a G0 stepping code. It has been VERY accommodating to OC, and, in fact, will accept a 384 x 9 setting for a 3.45 GHz result on standard voltage, with the memory forced to 5-5-5-15-2T, also at standard settings. My previous E6600 would have NEVER accepted that settings level without significant boosts to the voltage settings. I haven't pushed the E6850 too far as of yet, since I already know it will do 400 x 9 without much boost in the settings, and that's a fair bit of OC, even on a 3.0 GHz rated chip. I'll keep you posted on the OC results with this new G0 stepping code.

As for the newer versions of the Q6600 with a G0 stepping code, I am hopeful that those newer versions, coupled with the very recently released microcode from nVidia, will be the 'magic bullet" to allow the Quad-Core procs to OC on our boards. Given the outstanding OC capabilities of the E6850 with a stepping code of G0, the same code level for the Q6600 may do the trick. I will likely get my hands on one of those new Q6600s with a G0 code in a week or so, and then if Gigabyte comes through with the new BIOS which utilizes the new microcode, we'll be set to give it a run for the money. Stay tuned.

Mr Beagle, I 'm in the middle of a cpu upgrade myself. Like you I had an E6600 and my first choice for an upgrade was/is the E6850. Needless to say that I really appreciate all the nice info you are posting as to how this proc performs. It is very good to know that this cpu ocs beyond the 3.4 mark on std voltage. In fact this is pretty amazing. Have you noticed any increase of your mem bandwidth since the E6600 ? Please do post some Sandra/Everest mem scores if possible.

As for the Q6600, I have to admit that since the release of the G0 stepping I'm having some second thoughts. I'm not that much into cpu ocing as mem tweaking is my game but I do run many tasks simultaneously and the Q6600 is priced about the same as the E6850. The prospect of the G0 step scaling higher than its predecessor is a mighty tempting one and it hasn't gone unnoticed. I know that there are many people out there that face the same dilemma I do, in fact there is even a thread about it here in the Anandtech forums (Q6600 vs E6850). Currently the 6850 is a bit faster but it is certain that the Q6600 will pick up speed as time passes and more multi-threaded apps/games appear. On top of that it is always nice to run mem/proc at 1:1.

Like you I'm also optimistic as for the release of the new BIOS from Gigabyte and I believe that this time we may get the break that we 've been looking for. The GA-N680SLI-DQ6 is an amazing board and it would be a shame if the boys in Taiwan won't manage to overcome this last obstacle.

Bottom line. Picking a new cpu is not an easy decision right now. The E6850 is faster, the Q6600 will last longer and Penryn is around the corner.
 

EateryOfPiza

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I've been emailing back and forth with Gigabyte about the DDR2 FAIL issue in the H/W Health Monitor, and they said that the BIOS defaults to 1.8v. Since my ram runs at 2.2v (no lower), they said to give the RAM voltage a +0.4v.

I'm just wondering if anybody else thinks this is a good idea. If the board does not default to 1.8v and is giving 2.2v to my RAM, then +0.4v will put it into 2.6v, which I think is pretty dangerous for the RAM. Anybody with 2.2v rated RAM (no lower) have experience with this?
 

dlbetz

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EateryOfPiza, I am using some crucial ram it is also 2.2v and I did up it .4v to reach the 2.2v. So yes to run your ramat 2.2v you must add .4v.