When you read P & N and contemplate the mentality of the Right...

[UberNeuman]

I'd have to give Zombies one up on republicans as Zombies are always seeking: BRAINSSSSS....

\happy Halloween...

 

[shira]

Gee moonie stop the self hate . Have you never ever seen something in your life that others would LOL for revealing in a forum . When was the last time ya looked at the moon . Moonie . Have you not noticed what others have and what is actually backed up with real facts . Doyou recall here in this section I believe 3 years ago How I asked if none had notice the summer sunset being out of place according to a 57 year old man at that time . You guys made fun of me . But thats fine I just pointed out what I had observed threw a lifetime. It means nothing to me . I been waiting for these times since I was 4-5 years old . and AS I see them take place I gain more understanding of what I was told by an extraordinary female voice. If someone posted a news report about astro travel being a proven fact with proof . 99% here would LOL and make fun of them . I sure as hell wouldn't tell anyone ya could astro travel As you would be killed right away if you refused to spy for gooberment . Now saying you had a near death experience as so many claim after dieing and being brought back . That is exceptable thing to say without harm from gooberment. Because the gooberment knows how strong the will has to be to astro travel . Just saying . Don't dismiss what others see with their own eyes so easily . BY the way its has been proven I was right about the sun setting in wrong place . As well as the moon going goofy on us its all facts .

Could you rephrase this post for those of us not on anti-psychotic drugs?

 

[ComradeBeck]

Gee moonie stop the self hate . Have you never ever seen something in your life that others would LOL for revealing in a forum . When was the last time ya looked at the moon . Moonie . Have you not noticed what others have and what is actually backed up with real facts . Doyou recall here in this section I believe 3 years ago How I asked if none had notice the summer sunset being out of place according to a 57 year old man at that time . You guys made fun of me . But thats fine I just pointed out what I had observed threw a lifetime. It means nothing to me . I been waiting for these times since I was 4-5 years old . and AS I see them take place I gain more understanding of what I was told by an extraordinary female voice. If someone posted a news report about astro travel being a proven fact with proof . 99% here would LOL and make fun of them . I sure as hell wouldn't tell anyone ya could astro travel As you would be killed right away if you refused to spy for gooberment . Now saying you had a near death experience as so many claim after dieing and being brought back . That is exceptable thing to say without harm from gooberment. Because the gooberment knows how strong the will has to be to astro travel . Just saying . Don't dismiss what others see with their own eyes so easily . BY the way its has been proven I was right about the sun setting in wrong place . As well as the moon going goofy on us its all facts .

C'mon Nemesis old buddy, Tell me you are drinking, because if not, we can make some serious $$$ off that shit you are smoking!

Seriously though, this is weird stuff. Get some sleep.

 

[dank69]

Could you rephrase this post for those of us not on anti-psychotic drugs?

He has spent his whole life in fear. Now that he is reaching the end of his life, he is even more fearful that he might have wasted his entire life being fearful for nothing. So all the things he feared would come true just have to come true soon because he is almost out of time. Because of this, every day he becomes more and more desperate, scouring the internet for something, anything, that could possibly reinforce his delusions. Picture Harold Camping on May 22nd. Every day Nemesis gets closer to that. Sad really. Maybe he will snap out of it and try to enjoy what little time he has left. Probably not but I'm pulling for him.

 

[Moonbeam]

Nemesis: Gee moonie stop the self hate .

M: Bt but but, self hate creates Zombies and that's a bad place to be. Don't you want me to try and help them by identifying why they are sick?

N: Have you never ever seen something in your life that others would LOL for revealing in a forum .

M: Um, how about the fact that folk hate themselves. I see that and it makes folk LOL.

N: When was the last time ya looked at the moon . Moonie .

M: About 15 min before I first read your post.

N: Have you not noticed what others have and what is actually backed up with real facts .

M: You mean it is made of green cheese? No it was the same beautiful silver sliver I've seen time and again before.

N: Doyou recall here in this section I believe 3 years ago How I asked if none had notice the summer sunset being out of place according to a 57 year old man at that time .

M: Nope, I don't remember at all.

N: You guys made fun of me .


M: I hope I didn't but you are hard to take seriously, as you point out.

N: But thats fine I just pointed out what I had observed threw a lifetime.

M: The moon and the sun seem the same to me.

N: It means nothing to me .

M: Probably that's a good thing.

N: I been waiting for these times since I was 4-5 years old .

M: Sometimes folk see what they want to believe.

N: and AS I see them take place I gain more understanding of what I was told by an extraordinary female voice.

M: Your sister, your mother, some opera singer?

N: If someone posted a news report about astro travel being a proven fact with proof . 99% here would LOL and make fun of them .

M: I am sure folk think they astral travel.

N: I sure as hell wouldn't tell anyone ya could astro travel As you would be killed right away if you refused to spy for gooberment .

M: If I could astral travel I would have mentioned it long ago. If you want to see violence direct at your person tell people they hate themselves. It gives them the warm and fuzzes.

N: Now saying you had a near death experience as so many claim after dieing and being brought back . That is exceptable thing to say without harm from gooberment. Because the gooberment knows how strong the will has to be to astro travel . Just saying .

M: Well you aren't saying anything to me because I have no idea what you are talking about.

N: Don't dismiss what others see with their own eyes so easily . BY the way its has been proven I was right about the sun setting in wrong place . As well as the moon going goofy on us its all facts .

M: Such proof or even such notions have never reached me. Again, I have no idea what you are talking about. Sorry.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Look under a rock and you will find me.

 

[a777pilot]

Come on 777 just playing around with talking points . Don't take yourself so seriously. I am assuming your a young person with little common sense . Don't worry next year or so you find out how we all been taken for a ride. Both side will become 1 side except those who draw gooberment check and believe the gooberment has control of military. Military is young americans. Praise be up high they understand liberty and justice without all the frosting now attached to it

Actually I am a 66 y/o retire Marine Corps officer and a retired airline Captain.

I try never, at my age, to take myself seriously. That's for a young person.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Gee Willikers! was a bit of a hint that it was a tongue in cheek post really.

Conservatives worship of the 1950s is a really creepy thing though, it was a terrible decade unless you were a privileged white male from the "right" side of the tracks. Yet it is probably the one decade where White males had good civil service and government jobs that paid well, something they have since thanks to corporate propaganda given away and disavowed as socialism.

Imagine that! The very working class who built up American in the face of Communism now are seen as communist union thugs. I really am curious what happened to working class' sense of self interest. Or at least a part of them that buys into the right wing propaganda.

Your kidding right . Your not serious. What is a conservative and from whos perspective?

Ya have a good mind use it. Free Will = God given . NO man can remove this under any authority. Common law Murder theft harm to others or cruelity to creatures. All carry a penality. You made a free choice to breaklaw. You cann't expand upon this law or you remove under derivation of free will The true man is hidden under fear harm mentally or other. and natural selection and the gene poll is made none progressive. It hurts us as a Species. Never has that been more apparent

Holy Roman Empire did kill over 200,000,000 for all sorts of reasons . So be carefull about what you consider a conservative. You might get one of the phonies pissed

 

[UberNeuman]

Look under a rock and you will find me.

Just went outside and flipped over a rock... you didn't leap out - am I safe?

\did find some slugs though....

 

[a777pilot]

Holy Roman Empire did kill over 200,000,000 for all sorts of reasons .

Interesting. Do you have a referrence for this info?

Thanks.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Actually I am a 66 y/o retire Marine Corps officer and a retired airline Captain.

I try never, at my age, to take myself seriously. That's for a young person.

I believe ya. Considering this wasn't about you . Only your link . It was for another.

 

[a777pilot]

Oh, that's different. Never mind.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Interesting. Do you have a referrence for this info?

Thanks.

OK . Try Google . DO a Holy Roman empire murders 200,000,000. Just don't come back to this post. I'll try it .

 

[a777pilot]

OK . Try Google . DO a Holy Roman empire murders 200,000,000. Just don't come back to this post. I'll try it .

I tried that. That is why I am asking.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Heres what I got that would give ya most info . I don't care one way or the other what you except as truth I not judging anyone. Just witnessing this time.

http://www.teachinghearts.org/dre04historynotes.html

 

[a777pilot]

Heres what I got that would give ya most info . I don't care one way or the other what you except as truth I not judging anyone. Just witnessing this time.

http://www.teachinghearts.org/dre04historynotes.html

If that is your source, then you have nothing.

 

[cubby1223]

Why do you think the 1% are getting richer at an accelerating rate compared to the middle class?

Because they spend their time working instead of bitching on internet forums?

 

[a777pilot]

Because they spend their time working instead of bitching on internet forums?

Good answer.

 

[shira]

Just went outside and flipped over a rock... you didn't leap out - am I safe?

\did find some slugs though....

It has to be just the right rock.

 

[LunarRay]

Look under a rock and you will find me.

I tried that!
I assume that you ought to be under any rock or every rock. Having used all my relevant senses and not detecting you, I have to conclude that you are irrelevant or you do not exist. But, since I acted under your direction you must exist at least to me and since I did act you can't be totally irrelevant at least to me... So, what are you? Hmmmm... I propose that you could be the logic that zero cubed equals one or the result is that you are but from nothing you come.

 

[cwjerome]

The mentality of the Right. Well, it seems a qualifier is needed, like "many" or "some" or something else because the Right is a big thing with many perspectives. But it's easier to make your "point" when everything is balled up into one compact organism. I get that.

I consider myself a member of this dark, shadowy group. No, I do not want ever-lowering taxes on the super rich. No, I don't want the top 1% having and controlling 99% of the wealth in the US. I would be willing to bet a dollar that the majority on the Right do not want this either. Myself and others I know on the Right mainly believe that a smaller government has the potential to be a better government... mainly that it can be more efficient in operation and services and better promote freedom/protect people's rights.

A lot of the geniuses in this thread see the "low taxes on the rich" as the cause of our problems when in fact it's the EFFECT. It's the effect of the the system... the effect of corporatism, permanent campaign, cultural quirks, and a multitude of other issues that our current system generates. I hate to break it to you but in the last 25 years we've had almost 12 years of Democratic presidency and a little over 13 years of Republican presidency. The Congress has been split fairly evenly during this time as well.

But, just like how attacking the "mentality" of the Right makes little sense, it's the easy way out to attack "low taxes on the rich" which is merely a sympton of a larger issue that cannot be easily explained by partisan talking points and simplistic political posturing. So many on the Left merrily do what they accuse the Right of doing, dancing the little predictable dance like good pawns, spouting off the latest clever slogans and feeling real special, playing the game while the real issues remain hidden in plain view.

The right answers to the wrong questions are the wrong answers to the right questions. We are not asking the right questions. People get caught up in the superficial political sport while the real issues are covered up as we get gamed. Some of the people in here patting themselves on the back better wake the fuck up... as should everybody, including many of the Right. We need more political scientists to address the systemic changes necessary, and fewer political ideologues/mouthpieces to divert our focus into petty tail chasing.

P&N is part of the diversion, like Fox News or a thousand other mediums. Take it for what it is... a place to share snippets of easily prepared propaganda and talking points for easy digestion. For most drones this is the realm in which they live every single day.

 

[Moonbeam]

cwjerome: The mentality of the Right. Well, it seems a qualifier is needed, like "many" or "some" or something else because the Right is a big thing with many perspectives. But it's easier to make your "point" when everything is balled up into one compact organism. I get that.

M: I used up all the words in the thread title I could fit, as I remember. No room for any modifiers.

C: I consider myself a member of this dark, shadowy group. No, I do not want ever-lowering taxes on the super rich. No, I don't want the top 1% having and controlling 99% of the wealth in the US. I would be willing to bet a dollar that the majority on the Right do not want this either.

M: This is what I mean. You vote right because you believe right and by doing so elect the right which turns right around and screws you.

C: Myself and others I know on the Right mainly believe that a smaller government has the potential to be a better government... mainly that it can be more efficient in operation and services and better promote freedom/protect people's rights.

M: Another example of silly self destructive thinking. A small government helps the 1% run things. Government has to do big things that aren't economical, like run a post office, build a highway system, provide universal health care, etc, things that can only be done big. All of this is just waste to the rich. Efficiency is a goal that can't be perfectly reached. Too little grain and the goose can't lay a golden egg. I remember when Mulla Nasrudin used to run a smuggling operation using donkeys and noticed how much he had to pay for their food. He commented that just when he had gotten their bill down to nothing all his donkey's died. Imagine if he were a Republican running a country or just look at the actual reality.

C: A lot of the geniuses in this thread see the "low taxes on the rich" as the cause of our problems when in fact it's the EFFECT. It's the effect of the the system... the effect of corporatism, permanent campaign, cultural quirks, and a multitude of other issues that our current system generates.

M: I gave the 99% thingi as just one example. The Right is fucked up all over the place.

C: I hate to break it to you but in the last 25 years we've had almost 12 years of Democratic presidency and a little over 13 years of Republican presidency. The Congress has been split fairly evenly during this time as well.

M: You aren't breaking anything to me. The country has moved farther and farther right because of zombies. There is no real left.

C: But, just like how attacking the "mentality" of the Right makes little sense, it's the easy way out to attack "low taxes on the rich" which is merely a symptom of a larger issue that cannot be easily explained by partisan talking points and simplistic political posturing. So many on the Left merrily do what they accuse the Right of doing, dancing the little predictable dance like good pawns, spouting off the latest clever slogans and feeling real special, playing the game while the real issues remain hidden in plain view.

M: The real issue will always be hidden in plain view. Folk are brain dead. They have no idea what their real interests are and vote against them. But as our own self created destruction nears, more and more folk begin to stir in their sleep and awaken from this awful dream.

The right answers to the wrong questions are the wrong answers to the right questions. We are not asking the right questions. People get caught up in the superficial political sport while the real issues are covered up as we get gamed. Some of the people in here patting themselves on the back better wake the fuck up... as should everybody, including many of the Right. We need more political scientists to address the systemic changes necessary, and fewer political ideologues/mouthpieces to divert our focus into petty tail chasing.

P&N is part of the diversion, like Fox News or a thousand other mediums. Take it for what it is... a place to share snippets of easily prepared propaganda and talking points for easy digestion. For most drones this is the realm in which they live every single day.[/QUOTE]

 

[Matt1970]

it becomes very clear why there is such a fascination with Zombies and the walking dead taking over the country and the world. Does anybody remember the horror in childhood when you realized your parents were automaton whose aim was to suck you into their living death?

We are surrounded by folk that are actually brain dead. They can analyze nothing and can only regurgitate, and dance like organ grinder monkeys. All stimulus response is done by a program.

For example, we have all, I am sure, seen the data that shows that for many years the rich have gotten richer at an accelerating rate leaving behind the 99% in terms of growth of income and that as a result the life of the many has become more difficult while the lives of the few have gotten better and better.

It is also widely believed that Republicans favor the rich over the poor yet millions and millions of folk who will never be in the 1% vote for those who increase income disparity.

You have to operate under programming to vote against your own interests but there are millions and millions of marching morons who will and we see them post here in P & N regularly. It has to be sad to be brain dead, to be a cheap robotic slave of propaganda.

I know how angry you are to be this way and how ashamed you are. I know how deeply humiliated you were. I know how harsh your discipline. I know how joyous you were to acquire Stockholm syndrome and surrender your identity to the Borg and I know the depth of that pain.

But I know too that for every prison created there is also created a key.

You may be only a program but every program that can be installed can be deleted.

Good luck to you and

HAPPY HALLOWEEN

Oops, my bad, I was looking for the grown-ups forum....

 

[cwjerome]

cwjerome:

C: I consider myself a member of this dark, shadowy group. No, I do not want ever-lowering taxes on the super rich. No, I don't want the top 1% having and controlling 99% of the wealth in the US. I would be willing to bet a dollar that the majority on the Right do not want this either.

M: This is what I mean. You vote right because you believe right and by doing so elect the right which turns right around and screws you.

I am not talking about which side you are on or who you vote for... although that seems to be the only two issues that matter for the vast majority of zombies mindlessly playing the sucker's game. Those the are the two least important issues for me. I am interested in life, sincerity, understanding, and philosophy... and believe if other people made this their starting point instead of being superficially pimped out by the media and partisans we could start seeing real change for the better.

C: Myself and others I know on the Right mainly believe that a smaller government has the potential to be a better government... mainly that it can be more efficient in operation and services and better promote freedom/protect people's rights.

M: Another example of silly self destructive thinking. A small government helps the 1% run things. Government has to do big things that aren't economical, like run a post office, build a highway system, provide universal health care, etc, things that can only be done big. All of this is just waste to the rich. Efficiency is a goal that can't be perfectly reached. Too little grain and the goose can't lay a golden egg. I remember when Mulla Nasrudin used to run a smuggling operation using donkeys and noticed how much he had to pay for their food. He commented that just when he had gotten their bill down to nothing all his donkey's died. Imagine if he were a Republican running a country or just look at the actual reality.

Not only have we has relatively equal R/D control over the last 25 years, we have seen continued large growth of government while problems continue to mount. You have got to be a world class idiot or overcome with denial to believe the R or D parties want to change our current direction... window dressing aside, they are both taking us down this path. It may seem counter-intuitive to the unimaginative, but a smaller government can surely be more effective than the giant, mongrel government we currently have. As it stands now, the short term economic interests of the top and the government itself are in collusion, which to me does NOT resemble the capitalistic leanings of the Right which generally want less government involvement in the economy when possible.

If the choice is a cozy relationship between gov't and business with lower taxes OR a cozy relationship between gov't and business with higher taxes, I'll take neither. We need real change, change that starts with asking the right questions and not parroting talking points from partisan hacks.

 

[Moonbeam]

cwjerome: I am not talking about which side you are on or who you vote for... although that seems to be the only two issues that matter for the vast majority of zombies mindlessly playing the sucker's game. Those the are the two least important issues for me. I am interested in life, sincerity, understanding, and philosophy... and believe if other people made this their starting point instead of being superficially pimped out by the media and partisans we could start seeing real change for the better.

M: Well I think that's rather true but what you mean by those four things and what they mean to me may be rather different ideas. But political change can't happen if folk don't vote so how folk vote is important to me.

c: Not only have we has relatively equal R/D control over the last 25 years, we have seen continued large growth of government while problems continue to mount. You have got to be a world class idiot or overcome with denial to believe the R or D parties want to change our current direction... window dressing aside, they are both taking us down this path.

M: As I said we are far to the right politically, in my opinion. We need Progressives, not Democrats. We need folk who will serve the people.

c: It may seem counter-intuitive to the unimaginative, but a smaller government can surely be more effective than the giant, mongrel government we currently have.

M: Goodie Two Shoes would be better than what we have, but it has nothing to do with size. Only size can do big things.

c: As it stands now, the short term economic interests of the top and the government itself are in collusion, which to me does NOT resemble the capitalistic leanings of the Right which generally want less government involvement in the economy when possible.

M: It doesn't represent the communal thinking of Progressives either who want regulations that benefit the people.

c: If the choice is a cozy relationship between gov't and business with lower taxes OR a cozy relationship between gov't and business with higher taxes, I'll take neither. We need real change, change that starts with asking the right questions and not parroting talking points from partisan hacks.

M: I posted to inform folk they are zombies who vote against progressive government. Folk will continue to vote the way they do until the see they have been brainwashed into voting for the 1%. I don't see this as paroting talking points or partisanship.