When will Trump declare his candidacy?

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jp7794

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A vote counts as one no matter how loud you scream it.

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zinfamous

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I imagine that he will never officially declare his candidacy, because then he will have to deal with all sorts of laws again that will require his grifted funds to go to staff and campaign work that he will never pay for. He will ignore the laws, of course, but it's still more hassle that he could otherwise avoid by continuing to rally and dupe his sheep that already assume he is running, anyway.

He'll claim that some hidden, unknown law is preventing him from running, that the GQP has refused to allow him to participate in the primary...all sorts of shit that he will invent so that he can pretend to run and steal all of those idiots' money. His rallying cry/moto this year will have to do with "Writing Trump!" on the ballot or something.
 
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VW MAN

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You are one disgusting person.
No matter how "disgusting" you think I am here are to facts for you - 1 i never voted for trump, 2 I never not even jokingly, said i would do sex acts on my wife against her will. You've done both, I can only imagine how much you must hate yourself!
 

jameny5

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This can be a crucial factor to determine who wins the upcoming elections both in 2022 but more so 2024. The Republicans will cheat as many votes as they can, so this is all pretty important.

It's guaranteed he will run. His ego would not let him not run. On some level for him to declare early would benefit him in the sense he could pre-emptively fend off any challenger. Who in the GQP would try to unseat the cult leader himself? If he sets himself as the candidate he is kind of protected from a challenger. But if he declares too early can his candidacy get too stale? Or give him way too many chances to fuck up because he can't help but be a narcissistic ignoramus that says really dumb shit that shows he has no character, and completely alienate the independents and the few remaining sane Republicans? There are almost no GQP politicians standing up to Trump, pretty much just Cheney and Kinziger at this point, all the others are all corrupt scared fascists. But will the few sane Republican voters be like this is the last straw for our votes? If he loses that 5-10%, it's significant.

How would it motivate the Dems in 2022 if he already declares before the midterms?

Pretty dynamic situation. His timing of declaring his candidacy will most likely affect the results dramatically - well the actual results. We see the GQP is setting it up to take over election results in multiple states and just overthrow the results. But let's leave that out for now.
Simmer down Squished! A person with a big mouth and ego has all the time in the world to run. And Trump has both and a second clown act for the people. I mean he was a very low educated "buffoon" that was very entertaining to me. People that don't know what the hell they are talking about and make up sh it get my attention and keep me wide eyed to their bull sh it! And Trump did all that...
 

jp7794

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My point was that no matter how loud a MAGAT screams it is still only one vote. To your point I agree 100%.

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fskimospy

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My point was that no matter how loud a MAGAT screams it is still only one vote. To your point I agree 100%.

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True, but unfortunately due to the electoral college that vote means a lot more than a vote for a Democrat. After all, Biden got like 7 million more votes than Trump but his actual margin of victory in the decisive state was only 0.6%.

We are rapidly approaching a situation where Republicans can continually suffer what would previously have been considered blowouts and still retain power. We may already be there.
 

ch33zw1z

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Post a link or admit you are a lier.

What? Many people are saying this is what happened. Remember, to you, that is a-ok.

I really dont think you fully comprehend what voting for and defending trumps bullshit means for conservatives.
 
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I think the bigger issue will be Biden's age. Lets face it, he will be 82 in 2024, which means will have turned 87 when his term would end in Jan 2025. Plus he will be running as the incumbent, without the ability to attack Trump on his handling of covid, which IMO probably lost Trump the election. I just dont see him as a viable candidate in 2024. Yes, Trump is only 3 years younger, but like him or not, he is much more charismatic and a far better speaker than Biden.

I will not give you that Trump is the better speaker. Joe Biden has made some inspirational speeches in the past few weeks. When Joe talks from the heart, people tend to agree or at least credit Biden for the point he is making. Even Fox News had a hard time bashing one of Joe's speeches because they knew Joe was right. And Fox knew Joe was speaking from the heart. As for Donald Trump, his voice gives me brain pain. Even his own people that were at the rallies never really listened to Trump's ramblings, they only cheered because they were part of the circus. The fun time. Something different to get them out of the house. So whatever came into Donald Trump's pea brain thus out of his fat mouth, the audience cheered. Hell, they had no idea what Trump was trying to say, they were only there to witness the train wreck.

And unless Joe has a medical emergency, Joe will be just fine during a second term. Even Donald Trump could drop dead of clogged arteries at any moment. Trump looks very bloated and I have noticed how he has aged since leaving office. Trump definitely is looking older and less healthy than he looked during the insurrection. And Trump is the one appearing to lose his mind and his ability to reason with reality.

Donald Trump would be much more scary in a second term than Joe Biden. Joe Biden might forget a date or forget a name or get off track when speaking but that's about it, where Donald Trump will actually become more and more mentally unstable with age. That mental instability with Donald Trump is the thing to really fear and worry about. You don't want a second termed Donald Trump to believe that lobbing nukes at his enemies is the only answer to world problems. And I could just see Donald Trump doing that as his mind moves further and further from reality.
 

VRAMdemon

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If he runs in 2024, this will be the sum total of the content of every speech, rally and debate. Trump will campaign on a plank that the 2020 election was stolen from him. It will be his entire policy platform. He will literally do nothing during the campaign except rant insanely about election fraud. The kind of right-wing media he’s mainlining is powerful stuff. He will spend all day every day thinking about all the people, places and things that caused him to be the victim of the greatest crime in history as he stokes his anger and the anger of his followers. His entire platform will revolve around his victim hood. His platform will consist of the list of people he’s going to arrest and the upcoming draconian punishments he wants to inflict on them. He’ll campaign on nationalizing social media and cable news and arresting every reporter and the officers of every social media company that helped steal the 2020 election from him. He’ll totally derail any Republican that tries to talk about anything else.

By 2024 his entire thought process will be consumed by words and phrases implanted by these RWNJ media outlets that randomly break through his consciousness and consume his brain…. Italy switched votes for Biden - causing him to rail about the revenge he will seek against Italy and hinting that if he is re-elected he will seek revenge on Italy. Then Italy will fade and “Mitt Romney” will be next in the line-up, and he’ll rail about the revenge he will seek against Mitt Romney if he’s re-elected. Then he’ll be done with Mitt as he remembers that Dominion rigged the election against him, and he’ll rant about avenging the wrong they did him if he’s reelected. Then onto Pence…there are dozens if not hundreds of targets, he can go on for hours ... Lather - rinse - repeat.

Trump might stew in his own juices for the next three years, but he is not someone that makes a plan and follows through. To think that he has a strategy mapped out in advance is nuts. Trump says whatever pops into his head at the moment. He riles up a crowd, sees what direction they’re going, and then claims that he was already there before them. Donald will use his “candidacy” as a way to pressure Twitter into reinstating him. Not only does he desperately miss the adulation and attention toward his vomiting word salads from the golden toilet. Not being on Twitter is hampering the overall grift effort.

The scary part is - if all this comes to pass. Our democracy and election process will be on life support for years to come. Trump is living in an alternate reality, one he began constructing, crazy brick by crazy brick, on November 3rd. Thinking that Trump just needs time to accept reality is a mistake, one that people are only making because, after four years, some people still think there is a normal person inside Trump waiting to come out. But there’s not. The fucker is crazy. I’m not sure whether to hope for the scenario described above, or to fear it. But I’ve got three years to figure it out.
 

fskimospy

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I will not give you that Trump is the better speaker. Joe Biden has made some inspirational speeches in the past few weeks. When Joe talks from the heart, people tend to agree or at least credit Biden for the point he is making. Even Fox News had a hard time bashing one of Joe's speeches because they knew Joe was right. And Fox knew Joe was speaking from the heart. As for Donald Trump, his voice gives me brain pain. Even his own people that were at the rallies never really listened to Trump's ramblings, they only cheered because they were part of the circus. The fun time. Something different to get them out of the house. So whatever came into Donald Trump's pea brain thus out of his fat mouth, the audience cheered. Hell, they had no idea what Trump was trying to say, they were only there to witness the train wreck.

And unless Joe has a medical emergency, Joe will be just fine during a second term. Even Donald Trump could drop dead of clogged arteries at any moment. Trump looks very bloated and I have noticed how he has aged since leaving office. Trump definitely is looking older and less healthy than he looked during the insurrection. And Trump is the one appearing to lose his mind and his ability to reason with reality.

Donald Trump would be much more scary in a second term than Joe Biden. Joe Biden might forget a date or forget a name or get off track when speaking but that's about it, where Donald Trump will actually become more and more mentally unstable with age. That mental instability with Donald Trump is the thing to really fear and worry about. You don't want a second termed Donald Trump to believe that lobbing nukes at his enemies is the only answer to world problems. And I could just see Donald Trump doing that as his mind moves further and further from reality.
Also the idea that the most enduringly unpopular president in polling history is going to run on his charisma is pretty hilarious.

People seriously need to come to grips with reality. Reality is that America really dislikes Trump.
 

jmagg

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Also the idea that the most enduringly unpopular president in polling history is going to run on his charisma is pretty hilarious.

People seriously need to come to grips with reality. Reality is that America really dislikes Trump.
I'm not sure that America dislikes Trump, but it's obvious that he can't control his words or actions, so he's done. I very much doubt he'll run again.
 

fskimospy

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I'm not sure that America dislikes Trump, but it's obvious that he can't control his words or actions, so he's done. I very much doubt he'll run again.
I think that five years of horrible polling and the fact that he lost by the largest popular vote margin by an incumbent in the history of the country are pretty good indications that America dislikes Trump, haha.
 
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I think that five years of horrible polling and the fact that he lost by the largest popular vote margin by an incumbent in the history of the country are pretty good indications that America dislikes Trump, haha.
Can't trust polls, nevertheless, either way he's done.
 

ondma

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I will not give you that Trump is the better speaker. Joe Biden has made some inspirational speeches in the past few weeks. When Joe talks from the heart, people tend to agree or at least credit Biden for the point he is making. Even Fox News had a hard time bashing one of Joe's speeches because they knew Joe was right. And Fox knew Joe was speaking from the heart. As for Donald Trump, his voice gives me brain pain. Even his own people that were at the rallies never really listened to Trump's ramblings, they only cheered because they were part of the circus. The fun time. Something different to get them out of the house. So whatever came into Donald Trump's pea brain thus out of his fat mouth, the audience cheered. Hell, they had no idea what Trump was trying to say, they were only there to witness the train wreck.

And unless Joe has a medical emergency, Joe will be just fine during a second term. Even Donald Trump could drop dead of clogged arteries at any moment. Trump looks very bloated and I have noticed how he has aged since leaving office. Trump definitely is looking older and less healthy than he looked during the insurrection. And Trump is the one appearing to lose his mind and his ability to reason with reality.

Donald Trump would be much more scary in a second term than Joe Biden. Joe Biden might forget a date or forget a name or get off track when speaking but that's about it, where Donald Trump will actually become more and more mentally unstable with age. That mental instability with Donald Trump is the thing to really fear and worry about. You don't want a second termed Donald Trump to believe that lobbing nukes at his enemies is the only answer to world problems. And I could just see Donald Trump doing that as his mind moves further and further from reality.
I support most of Biden's policies, but I simply have to leave the room when he is speaking. I'm sorry but listening to Biden speak (at least for me) is like listening to someone drag their nails across a chalkboard. He also seems angry many times, although I think that is unintended. It is just very uncomfortable for me to listen to him speak.

And yes, I will give you that Trump is unhinged and detached from reality. That is actually a large part of his appeal to many of his supporters.
 

ondma

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Also the idea that the most enduringly unpopular president in polling history is going to run on his charisma is pretty hilarious.

People seriously need to come to grips with reality. Reality is that America really dislikes Trump.
Dont forget that 75 million people voted for him. Yes, more people voted for Biden, but in large part I believe that was because of Trump's totally inept handling of the pandemic. In 2024, the tables will be turned, and Trump will have four years of ammunition to attack Biden as a failure and being inept.
 

ondma

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If he runs in 2024, this will be the sum total of the content of every speech, rally and debate. Trump will campaign on a plank that the 2020 election was stolen from him. It will be his entire policy platform. He will literally do nothing during the campaign except rant insanely about election fraud. The kind of right-wing media he’s mainlining is powerful stuff. He will spend all day every day thinking about all the people, places and things that caused him to be the victim of the greatest crime in history as he stokes his anger and the anger of his followers. His entire platform will revolve around his victim hood. His platform will consist of the list of people he’s going to arrest and the upcoming draconian punishments he wants to inflict on them. He’ll campaign on nationalizing social media and cable news and arresting every reporter and the officers of every social media company that helped steal the 2020 election from him. He’ll totally derail any Republican that tries to talk about anything else.

By 2024 his entire thought process will be consumed by words and phrases implanted by these RWNJ media outlets that randomly break through his consciousness and consume his brain…. Italy switched votes for Biden - causing him to rail about the revenge he will seek against Italy and hinting that if he is re-elected he will seek revenge on Italy. Then Italy will fade and “Mitt Romney” will be next in the line-up, and he’ll rail about the revenge he will seek against Mitt Romney if he’s re-elected. Then he’ll be done with Mitt as he remembers that Dominion rigged the election against him, and he’ll rant about avenging the wrong they did him if he’s reelected. Then onto Pence…there are dozens if not hundreds of targets, he can go on for hours ... Lather - rinse - repeat.

Trump might stew in his own juices for the next three years, but he is not someone that makes a plan and follows through. To think that he has a strategy mapped out in advance is nuts. Trump says whatever pops into his head at the moment. He riles up a crowd, sees what direction they’re going, and then claims that he was already there before them. Donald will use his “candidacy” as a way to pressure Twitter into reinstating him. Not only does he desperately miss the adulation and attention toward his vomiting word salads from the golden toilet. Not being on Twitter is hampering the overall grift effort.

The scary part is - if all this comes to pass. Our democracy and election process will be on life support for years to come. Trump is living in an alternate reality, one he began constructing, crazy brick by crazy brick, on November 3rd. Thinking that Trump just needs time to accept reality is a mistake, one that people are only making because, after four years, some people still think there is a normal person inside Trump waiting to come out. But there’s not. The fucker is crazy. I’m not sure whether to hope for the scenario described above, or to fear it. But I’ve got three years to figure it out.
I think everyone but the most hardcore Republican fanatics are sick of his claims of election fraud. If he does choose this as his main focus, it will be a mistake. However, he still has plenty of room to attack the Dems on "socialism", inept on defense (Afghanistan = Benghazi x 100), the border, the economy (inflation), civil unrest, baby killers who want to take your guns, etc.
 
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Trump running is one of the ideal scenarios for the Dems, who need gifts like that because they are not as unified a party as the GQP is, which is unified around evil, and the Dems also have to overcome attempts to overthrow the election again.

The question is not if but when. He will definitely run.
 
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fskimospy

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Dont forget that 75 million people voted for him. Yes, more people voted for Biden, but in large part I believe that was because of Trump's totally inept handling of the pandemic. In 2024, the tables will be turned, and Trump will have four years of ammunition to attack Biden as a failure and being inept.
Trump's approval rating on 11/2/2020 according to 538: 53% disapprove, 45% approve.

Trump's approval rating on 3/1/2020, which to me would be the last time before the pandemic became serious business: 53% disapprove, 43% approve.


Maybe it's that people who already hated him changed to REALLY hating him? Nope, nothing there either. (Yes, it's Rasmussen and so it's biased, but internal results can be compared to each other)

Strong disapprove as of 3/2/2020: 42%
Strong disapprove as of 11/2/2020: 41%


Considering his approval rating actually went slightly up during that time and his 'strongly disapprove' went slightly down what's your basis for thinking the pandemic cost him the election? The simplest answer is the most likely one - Trump lost because America disliked him and elections are popularity contests. The unpopular guy lost the popularity contest. As he remains unpopular, he's most likely to lose if he tries again.

It baffles me because despite losing badly in 2016 he lucked into the presidency that people think this guy is some sort of political mastermind. He's bad at campaigning! He the popular vote in every contest he ever ran in by millions each time! If a Democrat had the exact same popular vote performance everyone would be talking about how they were the worst campaigner of all time.
 
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