When will the DNC ever learn?

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I can't believe this. What kind of doofus is running their show? They use Bush's physical results as a partisan political op?

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u...ing_games_with_physical_fitness314_xml

To: National Desk, Education and Political reporter

Contact: Josh Earnest of the Democratic National Committee Staff, 202-863-8148

WASHINGTON, Aug. 1 /U.S. Newswire/ -- The following is a fact sheet released today by the Democratic National Committee:

The White House this weekend announced that President Bush received good news during his annual physical. Doctors pronounced the President to be in "superior" physical condition, which media reports attributed to his rigorous, six day a week exercise routine. While President Bush has made physical fitness a personal priority, his cuts to education funding have forced schools to roll back physical education classes and his Administration's efforts to undermine Title IX sports programs have threatened thousands of women's college sports programs.

"President Bush's has dropped the ball when it comes to fully funding physical education in public schools and women's athletic programs at the college level," said Democratic National Committee spokesman Josh Earnest. "His personal habits indicate that physical fitness is not just fun and games for him. Don't our kids deserve the same opportunities to be physically fit? President Bush should stop running from his responsibility and make sure that all American children have access to physical fitness programs."

BUSH IN SUPERIOR HEALTH, BUT AMERICA'S YOUTH NOT

Doctors gave President Bush a clean bill of health in his annual checkup this weekend and White House spokesperson Dana Perino proclaimed him to be "in superior health." However, America's youth are not so lucky. While obesity has been declared an epidemic in this country, Bush's education policy is putting children at risk with cuts in physical education and school athletic programs.

BUSH CUTTING PHYSICAL EDUCATION PROGRAMS

Bush's 2006 Budget Cut Physical Education By 25 Percent. Bush's 2006 budget request cut physical education funding for students in kindergarten through twelfth grade by $18.4 million. The 2006 cut is the "first year of a 2-year phase out of the program in order to redirect resources to higher-priority activities" according to the Department of Education. (U.S. Department of Education)

School Systems Nationwide Forced To Implement Pay-To-Play Athletic Programs. USA Today surveyed state high school sports associations and found 34 states in which associations say at least some school districts are charging students to play sports. Pay-to-play fees have cropped up or ballooned at schools in Alaska, Ohio, Massachusetts, Michigan, Kansas and other states. The fees grew from $75 to $250 in one Massachusetts school district two years ago. (Indianapolis Star, 5/2/05; USA Today, 7/30/04)

BUSH ROLLING BACK ATHLETIC OPPORTUNITIES FOR WOMEN

Bush Weakened Title IX Rules. The Bush Administration's Education Department quietly issued a new clarification of the regulations interpreting Title IX. The new rules allow colleges to demonstrate that they are satisfying the demand for women's sports with an online survey showing that female students have no unmet sports interests. Even if the non-response rate is high in the survey, non-response is to be interpreted as a lack of interest according to the Education Department. (New York Times, 3/23/05)

NCAA President Says Rules Could "Reverse the Progress Made Over the Last Three Decades." "NCAA President Myles Brand joined in condemning the guidelines, saying they could 'reverse the progress made over the last three decades.' He added his disappointment that officials issued the clarification 'without benefit of public discussion and input.'" (Los Angeles Times, 3/23/05)

Bush Recommended Undermining Title IX Rules In 2002 As Well. In June 2002, Bush's Education Secretary Roderick Paige created the Commission on Opportunity in Athletics to review Title IX, the federal law that has expanded athletic opportunities for women and girls for 30 years by barring sexual discrimination. This January the commission came back with recommendations that would ease the regulations of Title IX. A statement by the National Women's Law Center opposed the Bush Commission's proposals, "Some have characterized the Commission's long list of proposed changes as minor and moderate. Nothing could be further from the truth. Make no mistake about it. If accepted by the Bush Administration, the Commission's proposals would dramatically reduce the sports participation opportunities and scholarships to which women and girls are entitled under the law." (Washington Post, 6/27/02; New York Times, 1/31/03; NWLC Statement, 2/5/03, http://www.nwlc.org)

CHILDHOOD OBESITY SKYROCKETING

The Rate Of Childhood Obesity Has Skyrocketed In Recent Years. The rate of childhood obesity has skyrocketed in recent years, and more than 9 million children over age 6 are now considered overweight. The rapid rise has alarmed public health experts, because overweight children are far more likely to develop health problems. Currently, the U.S. government estimates that 30 percent of the nation's kids are overweight or on their way to being too heavy. Nearly twice as many children and three times as many teens are overweight now compared to two decades ago. (Washington Post, 10/1/04; USA Today, 6/4/04; Greensboro News & Record, 3/21/04)
Physical fitness is a personal and parental responsibility, not the government's. Of course childhood obesity is skyrocketing. That's because so many parents permit their children to be babysat by TV, video games, and the internet instead of getting them off their fat cans and involved in physical activities. Maybe if they got their kids up in the morning and had them run a few miles, like Bush does, they wouldn't have to expect the government to coddle their little chubettes and they wouldn't have to rely on school programs to keep their children fit. In fact, if they kept their children in better shape it would help save taxes in the long run that go towards medical care which could then be put back into school sports programs.

Message to DNC: Dump Dean and his crew of attack dogs, please, and get someone who knows how to make real political points instead of vaporous expulsions.
 

yankeesfan

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The government should supply weight-loss/fat burning pills, also. God forbid we try excersing on our own time...
 

Todd33

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How the RNC rhetoric? Shall we post everythijng they "spew"? Oh ya, you are just trolling as usual.
 

PatboyX

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well, obviously its personal responsibility.
but i dont see a problem with that whole presidential fitness award stuff. if the parents dont give a crap enough about themselves to stay in shape, i doubt the kids are making it.
i also think nutrition is a HUGE part of this issue and is fundamentally placed in the governments hands and some changes need to be made on that side. it seems to be ignored.

 
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Originally posted by: PatboyX
well, obviously its personal responsibility.
but i dont see a problem with that whole presidential fitness award stuff. if the parents dont give a crap enough about themselves to stay in shape, i doubt the kids are making it.
i also think nutrition is a HUGE part of this issue and is fundamentally placed in the governments hands and some changes need to be made on that side. it seems to be ignored.
The government can only do so much about nutrition. There are government guidelines on proper nutrition as well as guidelines for serving nutritionally balanced food at public schools but the responsibility to have children eat nutritionally and sensibly is still ultimately up to the parents. It's the old "You can lead a horse to water..." adage in play here.
 

Proletariat

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: PatboyX
well, obviously its personal responsibility.
but i dont see a problem with that whole presidential fitness award stuff. if the parents dont give a crap enough about themselves to stay in shape, i doubt the kids are making it.
i also think nutrition is a HUGE part of this issue and is fundamentally placed in the governments hands and some changes need to be made on that side. it seems to be ignored.
The government can only do so much about nutrition. There are government guidelines on proper nutrition as well as guidelines for serving nutritionally balanced food at public schools but the responsibility to have children eat nutritionally and sensibly is still ultimately up to the parents. It's the old "You can lead a horse to water..." adage in play here.
Fake, fake, fake, fake.

Sorry I hate fake people.
 

cKGunslinger

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Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: PatboyX
well, obviously its personal responsibility.
but i dont see a problem with that whole presidential fitness award stuff. if the parents dont give a crap enough about themselves to stay in shape, i doubt the kids are making it.
i also think nutrition is a HUGE part of this issue and is fundamentally placed in the governments hands and some changes need to be made on that side. it seems to be ignored.
The government can only do so much about nutrition. There are government guidelines on proper nutrition as well as guidelines for serving nutritionally balanced food at public schools but the responsibility to have children eat nutritionally and sensibly is still ultimately up to the parents. It's the old "You can lead a horse to water..." adage in play here.
Fake, fake, fake, fake.

Sorry I hate fake people.

:confused:



No, no. Don't bother to elaborate or attempt to explain what you mean by that nonsensical spewage in your post. I'm sure all the people "in the know" understand you and your highly insightful and profound post completely. :roll:
 

alchemize

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From another hijacked thread:

Originally posted by: alchemize
Having the fattest and laziest people in the world has quite a bit to do with it. Taking another pill is no solution. It's ingrained in our culture.

Greatly tax processed foods, use the tax revenues to subsidize whole foods.
Then dramatically raise insurance rates on fat people and smokers, and reduce it for health folks.

Zero cost system. Never happen, of course, but it'd save billions.
Of course, the democrats aren't any more interested in improving health than the republicans are. Tax and spend, catering to special interest groups.
 

halik

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my only complaint about that is food in public schools - i remeber all that stuff was nasty as hell - pizza, hamburgers, fries etc. Everythign deep fried and dripping with grease
 

Proletariat

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Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: PatboyX
well, obviously its personal responsibility.
but i dont see a problem with that whole presidential fitness award stuff. if the parents dont give a crap enough about themselves to stay in shape, i doubt the kids are making it.
i also think nutrition is a HUGE part of this issue and is fundamentally placed in the governments hands and some changes need to be made on that side. it seems to be ignored.
The government can only do so much about nutrition. There are government guidelines on proper nutrition as well as guidelines for serving nutritionally balanced food at public schools but the responsibility to have children eat nutritionally and sensibly is still ultimately up to the parents. It's the old "You can lead a horse to water..." adage in play here.
Fake, fake, fake, fake.

Sorry I hate fake people.

:confused:



No, no. Don't bother to elaborate or attempt to explain what you mean by that nonsensical spewage in your post. I'm sure all the people "in the know" understand you and your highly insightful and profound post completely. :roll:
LOL well if it isn't my arch enemy.

I'm sure if you read his previous posts you will see what I'm talking about. He claims to be a turned Democrat but he doesn't have one ounce of it in him. He attacks them way more than even you do. He just puts on that fascade to make himself seem more legit. Its lame.
 

umbrella39

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Well to be fair to Mr. Bush, one can loose much weight and get in great shape when not concerning themselves with running the country while taking 50th Crawford, Texas vacation. Clearing brush > American People's needs.
 

zendari

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Originally posted by: halik
my only complaint about that is food in public schools - i remeber all that stuff was nasty as hell - pizza, hamburgers, fries etc. Everythign deep fried and dripping with grease

Pack a pb&j sandwich.
 
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Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: PatboyX
well, obviously its personal responsibility.
but i dont see a problem with that whole presidential fitness award stuff. if the parents dont give a crap enough about themselves to stay in shape, i doubt the kids are making it.
i also think nutrition is a HUGE part of this issue and is fundamentally placed in the governments hands and some changes need to be made on that side. it seems to be ignored.
The government can only do so much about nutrition. There are government guidelines on proper nutrition as well as guidelines for serving nutritionally balanced food at public schools but the responsibility to have children eat nutritionally and sensibly is still ultimately up to the parents. It's the old "You can lead a horse to water..." adage in play here.
Fake, fake, fake, fake.

Sorry I hate fake people.

:confused:



No, no. Don't bother to elaborate or attempt to explain what you mean by that nonsensical spewage in your post. I'm sure all the people "in the know" understand you and your highly insightful and profound post completely. :roll:
LOL well if it isn't my arch enemy.

I'm sure if you read his previous posts you will see what I'm talking about. He claims to be a turned Democrat but he doesn't have one ounce of it in him. He attacks them way more than even you do. He just puts on that fascade to make himself seem more legit. Its lame.
Ex-smokers often become some of the most outspoken anti-smokers. And I gave up taking a hit from the Democratic crackpipe long ago.
 

Proletariat

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: PatboyX
well, obviously its personal responsibility.
but i dont see a problem with that whole presidential fitness award stuff. if the parents dont give a crap enough about themselves to stay in shape, i doubt the kids are making it.
i also think nutrition is a HUGE part of this issue and is fundamentally placed in the governments hands and some changes need to be made on that side. it seems to be ignored.
The government can only do so much about nutrition. There are government guidelines on proper nutrition as well as guidelines for serving nutritionally balanced food at public schools but the responsibility to have children eat nutritionally and sensibly is still ultimately up to the parents. It's the old "You can lead a horse to water..." adage in play here.
Fake, fake, fake, fake.

Sorry I hate fake people.

:confused:



No, no. Don't bother to elaborate or attempt to explain what you mean by that nonsensical spewage in your post. I'm sure all the people "in the know" understand you and your highly insightful and profound post completely. :roll:
LOL well if it isn't my arch enemy.

I'm sure if you read his previous posts you will see what I'm talking about. He claims to be a turned Democrat but he doesn't have one ounce of it in him. He attacks them way more than even you do. He just puts on that fascade to make himself seem more legit. Its lame.
Ex-smokers often become some of the most outspoken anti-smokers. And I gave up taking a hit from the Democratic crackpipe long ago.
Oh I see your digging into the new fad then - enjoying that meth?
 

umbrella39

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChickenEx-smokers often become some of the most outspoken anti-smokers. And I gave up taking a hit from the Democratic crackpipe long ago.

LOL, no... those are called hypocrites. Just like the born agains who start preaching morality after years of imoral behaviour. The blind leading the blind are still, in fact, blind.

 

BushBasha

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Ex-smokers often become some of the most outspoken anti-smokers. And I gave up taking a hit from the Democratic crackpipe long ago.

I'm with you; puff, puff, give. Take the advice of their leader, to quote Reagan, and "don't inhale."

 

Helenihi

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Originally posted by: zendari
Women's sports killed itself off. They couldn't bring in revenue.

Women's sports have killed mens sports off. Title IX is a disastrous piece of sh1t legislation and basically requires colleges to cut popular and profitable mens programs and keep around unpopular and unprofitable womens programs to make sure that there is "equality" in their programs. Never mind that less women are interested in sports, and less people are interested in watching womens' sports, and there's no female equivalent of football (though women are allowed to play on men's teams) so there is always going to be a disparity.

 
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Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: PatboyX
well, obviously its personal responsibility.
but i dont see a problem with that whole presidential fitness award stuff. if the parents dont give a crap enough about themselves to stay in shape, i doubt the kids are making it.
i also think nutrition is a HUGE part of this issue and is fundamentally placed in the governments hands and some changes need to be made on that side. it seems to be ignored.
The government can only do so much about nutrition. There are government guidelines on proper nutrition as well as guidelines for serving nutritionally balanced food at public schools but the responsibility to have children eat nutritionally and sensibly is still ultimately up to the parents. It's the old "You can lead a horse to water..." adage in play here.
Fake, fake, fake, fake.

Sorry I hate fake people.

:confused:



No, no. Don't bother to elaborate or attempt to explain what you mean by that nonsensical spewage in your post. I'm sure all the people "in the know" understand you and your highly insightful and profound post completely. :roll:
LOL well if it isn't my arch enemy.

I'm sure if you read his previous posts you will see what I'm talking about. He claims to be a turned Democrat but he doesn't have one ounce of it in him. He attacks them way more than even you do. He just puts on that fascade to make himself seem more legit. Its lame.
Ex-smokers often become some of the most outspoken anti-smokers. And I gave up taking a hit from the Democratic crackpipe long ago.
Oh I see your digging into the new fad then - enjoying that meth?
I thought about trying meth, once, just to see what it was about. But I didn't trust the shady looking guy in the Che T-shirt that was selling it.
 

cKGunslinger

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Originally posted by: Proletariat
LOL well if it isn't my arch enemy.
Wow. Flatter yourself much?

I'm sure if you read his previous posts you will see what I'm talking about. He claims to be a turned Democrat but he doesn't have one ounce of it in him. He attacks them way more than even you do. He just puts on that fascade to make himself seem more legit. Its lame.
So by stating that exercise and nutrition for children is largely the responsibilty of their parents, and not the federal governement, he's a fake ex-Democrat? :confused:
 

cKGunslinger

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Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChickenEx-smokers often become some of the most outspoken anti-smokers. And I gave up taking a hit from the Democratic crackpipe long ago.

LOL, no... those are called hypocrites. Just like the born agains who start preaching morality after years of imoral behaviour. The blind leading the blind are still, in fact, blind.
Wait - people who change their actions after realizing they were not good/healthy/moral/legal are now hypocrites? :confused:

Is that like the humorous "Rehab is for quitters!" t-shirts? You realize that is all in jest, correct?
 

cKGunslinger

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Oh I see your digging into the new fad then - enjoying that meth?
I thought about trying meth, once, just to see what it was about. But I didn't trust the shady looking guy in the Che T-shirt that was selling it.
Dude, people in Skynard t-shirts sell meth. People in Che shirts try to give away copies of "Mao's Thoughts" and the such..
 

NJDevil

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Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: halik
my only complaint about that is food in public schools - i remeber all that stuff was nasty as hell - pizza, hamburgers, fries etc. Everythign deep fried and dripping with grease

Pack a pb&j sandwich.

Wouldn't it help is schools provided healthy food? I mean, they're public, so shouldn't the government at least cut out unhealthy foods in schools?

I agree that people should bring a sandwich, but I don't believe it excuses the leaders of America's public schools to throw the unhealthiest trash.

Back in 8th grade, before I headed off to private school, some kids would have a snapple and a chipwich (ice cream cookie sandwich) for lunch. Why even offer those options?
 

Tommunist

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Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Oh I see your digging into the new fad then - enjoying that meth?
I thought about trying meth, once, just to see what it was about. But I didn't trust the shady looking guy in the Che T-shirt that was selling it.
Dude, people in Skynard t-shirts sell meth. People in Che shirts try to give away copies of "Mao's Thoughts" and the such..

stained wifebeater is also some popular meth selling attire.
 
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Originally posted by: NJDevil
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: halik
my only complaint about that is food in public schools - i remeber all that stuff was nasty as hell - pizza, hamburgers, fries etc. Everythign deep fried and dripping with grease

Pack a pb&j sandwich.

Wouldn't it help is schools provided healthy food? I mean, they're public, so shouldn't the government at least cut out unhealthy foods in schools?

I agree that people should bring a sandwich, but I don't believe it excuses the leaders of America's public schools to throw the unhealthiest trash.

Back in 8th grade, before I headed off to private school, some kids would have a snapple and a chipwich (ice cream cookie sandwich) for lunch. Why even offer those options?
It's my understanding that public schools have to provide a nutritionally balanced menu according to specific government guidelines. I don't think it's their responsiblity to force kids to eat only from that selection though.

When I went to school there were pre-paid lunch cards. You were allowed to select a certain amount of items from the lunch line and you got your card punched. Junk like ice cream and soda cost extra. We couldn't eat the junk if our parents didn't give us extra money to buy it (and mine didn't). Do schools still have that same sort of program in place?