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When will Steam Let you start downloading Skyrim?

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I agree with this completely, 90% of the people that badmouth Bethesda for having buggy games are just parroting back something they've heard on the internet. I bought FO3, NV, Oblivion and Morrowind on launch and though I did experience quite a few bugs they were nothing but a minor inconvenience which are present in pretty much every game released.

Well my original post was just some slight humor. On a more serious note, I'm now 30 and I feel like I've wised up a bit. I used to get very hyped for new things, to the point where I'd buy them without demoing or reading any reviews. And certainly I can afford to continue doing that and continue getting burned half the time - however I've come to realize this is a poor plan of action. Maybe part of the issue is Steam and the fact that any time I go to play anything I'm reminded of how immense the backlog of games I actually wanted to enjoy is. But whatever the case, I love the screenshots of Skyrim, I'm psyched they are releasing the game, but I'm also aware that it is the marketing team that is feeding me this info and it is in my best interest to play the backlogged games that I currently have, let the hype die down, let the patches roll out and play a much cheaper and much more polished game. It is literally a win in about 7 different ways for me.

It used to be that only a certain type of gamer had a backlog, however these days, I'm pretty confident to say just about anyone in this thread has a backlog of games they got during various sales. Which means that the minority of people who are sitting around without anything to do is very slim and basically anyone can afford and benefit from waiting for Skyrim to come out and see it's real non-pr state.

I honestly can't recall what bugs Morrowind, Oblivion or Fallout had. I can tell you that I quit Morrowind because its combat was disgustingly broken - my last play was a character called gimpy that I made in the editor that came with the game, he had no arms and no legs and all of his stats were something like -50 or -100. I was curious to see how far I could get, obviously it was more difficult, however I still managed to clear dwemer mines and the such. I wasn't a fan of the self-inflicted difficulty (because it requires you to self-balance it) and so I got bored and quit.

I quit Oblivion when the copy&pasted portals started opening. Once I realized they were all identical, I got a bit disgusted and quit. I managed to play Fallout all the way to the end, while admitting the game was broken, I think the only thing that kept me going were the bobbleheads, I quit Fallout New Vegas when I started crashing every 30 minutes in New Vegas. Oddly enough, NV kept me the most engaged and wanting to continue on, however the crashing was enough to keep me out of the game and into other games I had.

I can't guarantee Skyrim will crash, however I know enough to realize I benefit greatly from staying away from it, even if only to play more SSF4, until it is patched, fully reviewed, weighed and judged. Someone else said they like playing the game now and then playing it again after it has been fixed - I simply believe the time you spend playing it broken is much more enriched by playing another fully functional game.
 
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That does sound really cool, I'm still trying to decide if I should pre-load or buy a physical copy Friday...
 
That does sound really cool, I'm still trying to decide if I should pre-load or buy a physical copy Friday...

It uses Steam regardless, so if the physical copy is going to cost you the same as the digital, might as well just buy the digital. You can preorder it on Direct2Drive for $53.95 so you save 10% there.
 
Well my original post was just some slight humor. On a more serious note, I'm now 30 and I feel like I've wised up a bit. I used to get very hyped for new things, to the point where I'd buy them without demoing or reading any reviews. And certainly I can afford to continue doing that and continue getting burned half the time - however I've come to realize this is a poor plan of action. Maybe part of the issue is Steam and the fact that any time I go to play anything I'm reminded of how immense the backlog of games I actually wanted to enjoy is. But whatever the case, I love the screenshots of Skyrim, I'm psyched they are releasing the game, but I'm also aware that it is the marketing team that is feeding me this info and it is in my best interest to play the backlogged games that I currently have, let the hype die down, let the patches roll out and play a much cheaper and much more polished game. It is literally a win in about 7 different ways for me.

It used to be that only a certain type of gamer had a backlog, however these days, I'm pretty confident to say just about anyone in this thread has a backlog of games they got during various sales. Which means that the minority of people who are sitting around without anything to do is very slim and basically anyone can afford and benefit from waiting for Skyrim to come out and see it's real non-pr state.

I honestly can't recall what bugs Morrowind, Oblivion or Fallout had. I can tell you that I quit Morrowind because its combat was disgustingly broken - my last play was a character called gimpy that I made in the editor that came with the game, he had no arms and no legs and all of his stats were something like -50 or -100. I was curious to see how far I could get, obviously it was more difficult, however I still managed to clear dwemer mines and the such. I wasn't a fan of the self-inflicted difficulty (because it requires you to self-balance it) and so I got bored and quit.

I quit Oblivion when the copy&pasted portals started opening. Once I realized they were all identical, I got a bit disgusted and quit. I managed to play Fallout all the way to the end, while admitting the game was broken, I think the only thing that kept me going were the bobbleheads, I quit Fallout New Vegas when I started crashing every 30 minutes in New Vegas. Oddly enough, NV kept me the most engaged and wanting to continue on, however the crashing was enough to keep me out of the game and into other games I had.

I can't guarantee Skyrim will crash, however I know enough to realize I benefit greatly from staying away from it, even if only to play more SSF4, until it is patched, fully reviewed, weighed and judged. Someone else said they like playing the game now and then playing it again after it has been fixed - I simply believe the time you spend playing it broken is much more enriched by playing another fully functional game.

It sounds to me like you just dislike elder scrolls and fallout games, not that they were too buggy for you to play. Perhaps you can wait to purchase the game because you're just not that excited about it. I'm certainly not going to go out and buy a Call of Duty game since I believe those games are garbage, but with a game I love of course I'm going to want to pick up at on launch day despite the premium price.

It uses Steam regardless, so if the physical copy is going to cost you the same as the digital, might as well just buy the digital. You can preorder it on Direct2Drive for $53.95 so you save 10% there.

Damn, I pre-ordered my physical copy during a sale for $39.99, I might have sided with skace and waited for a price drop if I had to pay $59.99. The only downside is I probably won't receive my copy until next week as they rarely ship before launch day.
 
It uses Steam regardless, so if the physical copy is going to cost you the same as the digital, might as well just buy the digital. You can preorder it on Direct2Drive for $53.95 so you save 10% there.

Can save another 15% off if you do an IGN prime trial.
 
It uses Steam regardless, so if the physical copy is going to cost you the same as the digital, might as well just buy the digital. You can preorder it on Direct2Drive for $53.95 so you save 10% there.

So does direct2drive just give you a steam key or something then? I do like having an actual disc even for steam games but maybe I'll just wait for a 10$ GOTY edition a few years down the line to pick up a physical copy.
 
So does direct2drive just give you a steam key or something then? I do like having an actual disc even for steam games but maybe I'll just wait for a 10$ GOTY edition a few years down the line to pick up a physical copy.

Yup, Direct2Drive just gives you a key you activate on Steam and DL from them.
 
It sounds to me like you just dislike elder scrolls and fallout games, not that they were too buggy for you to play. Perhaps you can wait to purchase the game because you're just not that excited about it. I'm certainly not going to go out and buy a Call of Duty game since I believe those games are garbage, but with a game I love of course I'm going to want to pick up at on launch day despite the premium price.

Well, your opinion is jaded by the fact that you invalidated my entire post by saying that I shouldn't play what I won't like and then comparing my enjoyment of games to Call of Duty, the fratboy hit that is almost universally disliked by genuine gamers.

The point of my post wasn't to tell people not to get Skyrim, it was to hopefully relay a lesson I've learned by buying games early... before they are patched and balanced. I realize some will never learn this lesson and I don't really care, but I do hope others understand where I'm coming from at least. This has absolutely nothing to do with me not liking a game and everything with me being able to learn from past experiences and hopefully use that wisdom in an intelligent manner. Would I have enjoyed Oblivion more if I had waited? Would I have enjoyed Morrowind more? I don't know - because I didn't. However, I know for a fact that I loved Rage while others were soured by some graphical issue? What graphical issue? I don't know because I never saw it because it was patched before I ever started playing. And that is not waiting years, but just a couple weeks.

This time around, others can be the crash test dummy while I sit back, wait and enjoy other patched and functional games. I can't guarantee I will have a better time when I buy Skyrim, however I think the odds are certainly in my favor.

Edit: Oh I'd also like to add how hilarious it is that you think the ability to wait 2 weeks means I don't like something. You've waited years for Skyrim without realizing it. I guarantee you are either young or never learned patience if you think waiting a few extra weeks will cause you any pain.
 
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Well, your opinion is jaded by the fact that you invalidated my entire post by saying that I shouldn't play what I won't like and then comparing my enjoyment of games to Call of Duty, the fratboy hit that is almost universally disliked by genuine gamers.

Edit: Oh I'd also like to add how hilarious it is that you think the ability to wait 2 weeks means I don't like something. You've waited years for Skyrim without realizing it. I guarantee you are either young or never learned patience if you think waiting a few extra weeks will cause you any pain.

I honestly didn't read your original post, so I have no idea what you said. You quoted a response I made to another person and just assumed I was talking about your post.

I didn't invalidate your entire post either, but the issues you brought up with those games were not bugs, nor were they fixed after launch. You simply did not like some of the game mechanics so you quit playing the game.

And you say two weeks, while previously the figure was six months. Anyone can be patient for two weeks, but it is difficult to be patient for six months if you've been looking forward to something.

I dislike how you've twisted this into a personal assault while I was just speaking in general.
 
I'll wait a bit on this one. Allow for the initial reviews/reactions to come out..and the few immediate/gamebreaker bugs to get fixed pretty quickly.

Maybe 3wks-1 month after release. Maybe in time to catch a 20% off promo somewhere.
 
Damn that sounds like a good deal, I'm gonna have o pick this up when I get home.

Make sure to uncheck the option to auto renewel. They'll automatically cancel your free trial at the end of 30 days. While you're there you can get your free Sanctum DLCs.
 
Make sure to uncheck the option to auto renewel. They'll automatically cancel your free trial at the end of 30 days. While you're there you can get your free Sanctum DLCs.

Is this through direct2drive? I was going through the checkout and haven't seen anything about IGN prime yet.
 
I honestly didn't read your original post, so I have no idea what you said. You quoted a response I made to another person and just assumed I was talking about your post.

I didn't invalidate your entire post either, but the issues you brought up with those games were not bugs, nor were they fixed after launch. You simply did not like some of the game mechanics so you quit playing the game.

And you say two weeks, while previously the figure was six months. Anyone can be patient for two weeks, but it is difficult to be patient for six months if you've been looking forward to something.

I dislike how you've twisted this into a personal assault while I was just speaking in general.

Then why did you quote skace's post when making that reply, if you were making a response to another person? My head exploded.
 
How is this game less than 6gb when MW3 is like 15gb?

Bought it when I got home from work today. I go 2 years without buying a game for over $20, and here I am buying 2 $60 games in one day!
 
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