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When will Leonardo DiCaprio win an Oscar?
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darkewaffle
Diamond Member
Even without an Oscar, I'm pretty sure Leo is going to be ok.
KeithP
Diamond Member
It seems most are making the mistake of assuming winning an Academy Award means you gave the best performance in a particular category. I think anyone that pays attention to this stuff understands while that might happen on occasion, it doesn't always work that way.
It is a "political" process as much as anything else. The studio backing the film/actor for consideration and the actor must participate in the circus to have any real shot.
I get the feeling DiCaprio is one those actors that feels he should win on his own terms, based on his performance and not by jumping through hoops like a trained monkey.
For the record, while I think he is a fine actor, I don't think he has had a role where he should have won the award just yet.
-KeithP
It is a "political" process as much as anything else. The studio backing the film/actor for consideration and the actor must participate in the circus to have any real shot.
I get the feeling DiCaprio is one those actors that feels he should win on his own terms, based on his performance and not by jumping through hoops like a trained monkey.
For the record, while I think he is a fine actor, I don't think he has had a role where he should have won the award just yet.
-KeithP
JamesV
Platinum Member
Blood Diamond was a great movie, and he was pretty good in it, but Forest Whitaker was scary as hell at times in the Last King of Scotland. I'd even say Leonardo's co-star (black dude) deserves the Oscar more than he does for that movie.
Probably has a good shot with Wolf of Wall Street this year, particularly after the Django snub at the recent Oscars.
KT
KT
darkxshade
Lifer
Watch, he's going to win an Oscar and then forgets how to act and starts sucking in everything.
mikeymikec
Lifer
It annoys me when actors get an oscar because they played a character that people liked rather than their acting performance. It reminds me of when I was in single figures and thought that Mark Hamill was the best actor because Luke Skywalker was a GREAT CHARACTER! How has this guy not had more roles? 🙂
Examples:
Christoph Waltz in 'Inglourious Basterds'. Brilliant character, brilliant script. Was it exceptional acting? It was competent/good/believable, yes. Admittedly I'm not sure what the competition was like in that category for that year, but looking at the wikipedia page for it, it doesn't look like it was up to much.
Julia Roberts - Eric Brockovich. She acts exactly the same way in every single movie. How did she even get nominated?
Christian Bale - I haven't seen 'The Fighter', but going by his past performances, I would be really surprised if it's oscar-winning material. IMO (from what I've seen), his best performance to date was in American Psychp.
Examples:
Christoph Waltz in 'Inglourious Basterds'. Brilliant character, brilliant script. Was it exceptional acting? It was competent/good/believable, yes. Admittedly I'm not sure what the competition was like in that category for that year, but looking at the wikipedia page for it, it doesn't look like it was up to much.
Julia Roberts - Eric Brockovich. She acts exactly the same way in every single movie. How did she even get nominated?
Christian Bale - I haven't seen 'The Fighter', but going by his past performances, I would be really surprised if it's oscar-winning material. IMO (from what I've seen), his best performance to date was in American Psychp.
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sigurros81
Platinum Member
You don't win awards if you go full retard. Everyone knows that.
SphinxnihpS
Diamond Member
Swifty had to take matters into his own hands 🙂50ish).
BD is still Leo's best acting job.
Had he a bigger role in Django Unchained, he may have gotten a nod for support, but honestly, with half the screen time, Samuel L Jackson's performance was far superior. I HATED him in that movie; I want to put my hands on his neck and squeeze the Uncle Tom out of him, which means he was fucking awesome!
phucheneh
Diamond Member
DiCaprio has this thing called range. He plays 'characters'.
Daniel Day-Lewis is fucking awesome. Many of the others on that list are very lacking.
Denzel is great, but when has he not played a mildy-sarcastic very-clever selectively-stereotypical black man?
Jack Nicholson? Only good when he plays a psychopath. I suspect he's a psychopath.
Al Pacino? Terrible. Just fucking terrible.
Spacey is better? Bwahaha, yeah right. 😀
KT
KT
Red Storm
Lifer
Kevin Spacey is awesome.
I like the dude a lot, but he's in a tier below some of the heavy hitters in my opinion.
KT
They Live
Senior member
Terrible now maybe, but certainly great back in the day.
phucheneh
Diamond Member
It may be a generational thing. I never really saw any of his 'classics.'
Which probably why a lot of his generation falls into my 'I don't get it' list. Pacino, DeNiro, Nicholson...they all just seem very typecast, one-note actors. But it's probably because they already gave their 'great' performances and are now largely just working for a paycheck.
It's hard to even come up with who the 'new generation' of greats is...there are some holes to fill. Immediate thoughts: DiCaprio, Damon, Gyllenhaal...shit I'm running out already...Pitt and Clooney are getting a little older, dunno if they'd fall in with the same group...uhh...Gordon-Levitt?
Fuck me, who's make decent movies anymore?
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SphinxnihpS
Diamond Member
I think he lacks some versatility, but still has more than most. I think most actors play themselves over and over and that makes it more about casting.
Peter Sellers
Willem Dafoe
George C. Scott
Daniel Day Lewis
Elizabeth Taylor
Meryl Streep (still hate her)
Jack Lemon
Walter Matthau
Steven Root (The astounding Steven Root)
William H. Macy
Don Cheadle
Robert Ridgely
Crispin Glover
Michael Parks
Katy Bates
These are actors that can transform themselves into other people before your eyes.
I thought he was great in Django, and I'm surprised Waltz won instead of him. But other than that, I dont think he really had any Oscar winning worthy performances, except maybe for Whats Eating Gilbert Grape. I actually thought he won the Oscar for that, but he was just nominated.
SphinxnihpS
Diamond Member
soulcougher73
Lifer
Dont know but i wish they could retroactively give him one for Arny from Whats Eating Gilbert Grape. I saw that before he was famous and thought that he was actually...umm... special.
M0oG0oGaiPan
Diamond Member
not agreeing/disagreeing with your list but I think gary oldman is a good example
phucheneh
Diamond Member
After that first crazy-eyed picture, I thought those were Pacino, lol.
And Re: versatility, that's what I like about DiCaprio. When I think of 'people who play themselves,' I think of, like...Michael Cera. Alec Baldwin. There are a lot of them.
DiCaprio does characters DAMNED well. He's not as total-chameleon as Day Lewis, granted, but not many are.
And Re: versatility, that's what I like about DiCaprio. When I think of 'people who play themselves,' I think of, like...Michael Cera. Alec Baldwin. There are a lot of them.
DiCaprio does characters DAMNED well. He's not as total-chameleon as Day Lewis, granted, but not many are.
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