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when will apple make the iPad 5?

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jpeyton

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Wonder what they'll fuck up with ios7 and I wonder what cool apps they'll try to promote that already are on the market from 3rd parties.
Here's a leaked image of an iPad 5 running iOS 7:

1stGen-iPad-HomeScreen.jpg
 

Zodiark1593

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Wait a tic...

The Lightning adapter is innovative? Hasn't every other phone and device used Micro USB for much longer (I've got about 6 of the cables somewhere in my house)? What exactly is Apple innovating here apart from another proprietary standard?

Don't get me wrong, I'm somewhat glad Apple decided to give the axe to Sr. Wideload, but calling it innovation is a bit of a stretch.
 
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ControlD

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Wait a tic...

The Lightning adapter is innovative? Hasn't every other phone and device used Micro USB for much longer (I've got about 6 of the cables somewhere in my house)? What exactly is Apple innovating here apart from another proprietary standard?

Don't get me wrong, I'm somewhat glad Apple decided to give the axe to Sr. Wideload, but calling it innovation is a bit of a stretch.

You can insert the plug right side up or upside down. Mind boggling really.
 

ponyo

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Wait a tic...

The Lightning adapter is innovative? Hasn't every other phone and device used Micro USB for much longer (I've got about 6 of the cables somewhere in my house)? What exactly is Apple innovating here apart from another proprietary standard?

Don't get me wrong, I'm somewhat glad Apple decided to give the axe to Sr. Wideload, but calling it innovation is a bit of a stretch.

It is improvement over MicroUSB. You can insert without orientation worry and it's less fragile. I think the biggest advantage over microUSB is the charging power. Lightning adapter can charge the iPad while it's being used. MicroUSB wouldn't be able to do that.
 

Ichinisan

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It is improvement over MicroUSB. You can insert without orientation worry and it's less fragile. I think the biggest advantage over microUSB is the charging power. Lightning adapter can charge the iPad while it's being used. MicroUSB wouldn't be able to do that.

Just had a $100 premium headset get trashed because the microUSB port pulled out along with the charger. Another extremely common issue is that the ports get loose and stop making a connection.

Wait a tic...

The Lightning adapter is innovative? Hasn't every other phone and device used Micro USB for much longer (I've got about 6 of the cables somewhere in my house)? What exactly is Apple innovating here apart from another proprietary standard?

Don't get me wrong, I'm somewhat glad Apple decided to give the axe to Sr. Wideload, but calling it innovation is a bit of a stretch.

You choosing to ignore the obvious?

If you use microUSB devices all the time and never had problems with the connector, you are lying to yourself.

Sturdy. Strong. Reversible. Lightning is significantly better. It's what microUSB should have been from the start.
 

ponyo

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I'm not saying Lightning connector is bad design. It is improvement over MicroUSB. The only thing bad about the design is Apple's greed and control. I still haven't read one good convincing argument why that "security" chip is required. I'll take the inferior $1 MicroUSB cable all day long over $20-30 ripoff Lightning cable.
 

Ichinisan

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I'm not saying Lightning connector is bad design. It is improvement over MicroUSB. The only thing bad about the design is Apple's greed and control. I still haven't read one good convincing argument why that "security" chip is required. I'll take the inferior $1 MicroUSB cable all day long over $20-30 ripoff Lightning cable.

Yup. I agree with you. There's some kind of communication that chooses how the pins are assigned, so the connector could theoretically be used for Thunderbolt and other interfaces...but Apple had better make sure the chip is affordable to third-party cable manufacturers. Belkin and Griffin have just started to sell Lightning charge accessories.
 

Dumac

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9.7 inches (250 mm) 2,048 × 1,536 px color IPS LCD display at (264 ppi)
vs
10.055-inch (255.4 mm) diagonal PLS-backlit LCD capacitive touchscreen with 16:10 aspect ratio
2560×1600 pixels WQXGA (299 ppi)

Not to mention better clock speed, double the RAM, and that JB 4.2 > iOS6.

Now if only I could justify spending all that money on a toy.
 

ew915

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Not to mention better clock speed, double the RAM, and that JB 4.2 > iOS6.

Now if only I could justify spending all that money on a toy.

You probably haven't used both devices to make such an educated statement
 

ew915

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I've used the iPad 3. I think that is close enough. The iPad 4 doesn't really seem like a revolution.

Then whatever you do does not tax enough the iPad 3 soc let alone the nexus 10 soc, then you are proclaiming how fast and revolutionary is the nexus 10 when you are not making full use of the hardware.
 

deathBOB

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Here's a leaked image of an iPad 5 running iOS 7:

1stGen-iPad-HomeScreen.jpg

I can't imagine them not moving toward the style of the Ipad Mini. I wonder if it will get the thin bezel though. Do higher res screens need thicker bezels?
 

Ichinisan

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I can't imagine them not moving toward the style of the Ipad Mini. I wonder if it will get the thin bezel though. Do higher res screens need thicker bezels?

A 10" tablet is too big for most people to hold with their hand around the back, so there needs to be a bezel margin for your fingers to grip without accidentally interacting with the screen. The mini doesn't need it as much because you can hold it with one hand (thumb on one side and fingers on the other).

I still think the design of the mini (with eliminated side margins) is more appealing.
 

Ichinisan

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I thought iOS 4 came with more apps than that on an iPad.

They've probably been moved to another page in a deliberate attempt to make it more difficult to identify the OS / device revision. Surprised they didn't change the wallpaper.
 

deathBOB

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A 10" tablet is too big for most people to hold with their hand around the back, so there needs to be a bezel margin for your fingers to grip without accidentally interacting with the screen. The mini doesn't need it as much because you can hold it with one hand (thumb on one side and fingers on the other).

Mini has enhanced touch rejection: http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/23/3545614/apples-ipad-mini-reject-accidental-touches. I don't see why the regular iPad couldn't function the same way. That's why I asked whether it was a hardware limitation. No one appears to know. :(

...and, in case you missed it, that picture is supposed to be a gag. It's saying either "iOS keeps losing native apps" or "every iteration of iPad / iOS looks exactly the same."

Thus my comment . . .