When will Ahmadinejad speak?

Coldkilla

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When is this meeting exactly supposed to take place? Will it be on cspan? I'd like to make sure I don't miss it. Which station will have this broadcasted in its entirety and, what time is this supposed to begin?
 

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Monday, September 24, 2007, 1:30?2:30 p.m.
Roone Arledge Auditorium, Alfred Lerner Hall, 2920 Broadway
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, President of the Islamic Republic of Iran

Co-sponsored by the School of International and Public Affairs

A keynote address followed by a question and answer session with the audience.
Moderator: John H. Coatsworth, Acting Dean, School of International and Public Affairs

There's also a live webcast available:

http://www.worldleaders.columbia.edu/help.html
 

Sacrilege

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Originally posted by: Pabster
I'd imagine Al Jazeera will carry it.

I wouldn't be surprised if they show it unedited in its entirety. They have more journalistic integrity than many of the American sensationalist entertainment news networks, such as Fox News.
 

Vic

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Looks like Ahmadinejad is becoming more popular in America than he is in his own country, where it's a crime to speak out against Islam or the government, or to drink alcohol.
 

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Originally posted by: Vic
Looks like Ahmadinejad is becoming more popular in America than he is in his own country, where it's a crime to speak out against Islam or the government, or to drink alcohol.

When America has such a dearth of political leadership, any fresh face in politics is bound to attract some interest. :thumbsup:

You have a problem with alcohol prohibition?
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Sacrilege
Originally posted by: Vic
Looks like Ahmadinejad is becoming more popular in America than he is in his own country, where it's a crime to speak out against Islam or the government, or to drink alcohol.

When America has such a dearth of political leadership, any fresh face in politics is bound to attract some interest. :thumbsup:

You have a problem with alcohol prohibition?

Only to the reactionary braindead sheep who require being led by the nose. And yeah, I do have a problem with prohibition and other such religion based totalitarian agendas.

:roll:
 

Martin

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Originally posted by: Vic
Looks like Ahmadinejad is becoming more popular in America than he is in his own country, where it's a crime to speak out against Islam or the government, or to drink alcohol.

Yeah, next thing you know they'll be demanding people be allowed to hear other people speak. How dare they!
 

daveymark

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Originally posted by: Coldkilla
When is this meeting exactly supposed to take place? Will it be on cspan? I'd like to make sure I don't miss it.

you won't miss much as he will be spouting the same old rhetoric that has been repeated when he was asked the exact same questions in numerous interviews previously. if you have access to google and/or youtube you'll be able to get the answers to everything you need.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Martin
Originally posted by: Vic
Looks like Ahmadinejad is becoming more popular in America than he is in his own country, where it's a crime to speak out against Islam or the government, or to drink alcohol.

Yeah, next thing you know they'll be demanding people be allowed to hear other people speak. How dare they!

WTF is this supposed to mean? I hope you realize that Ahmadinejad and the Iranian government is your supposed personal worst nightmare, a religious state. One doesn't have the luxury over there of the same legal right that is allowing Ahmadinejad to speak here.

One would think that people who claim to be intelligent could recognize a simple false dilemma when presented with one. It is possible for both Bush and Ahmadinejad to both suck and at the same time. You don't have to pick one over the other.
 

Martin

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Martin
Originally posted by: Vic
Looks like Ahmadinejad is becoming more popular in America than he is in his own country, where it's a crime to speak out against Islam or the government, or to drink alcohol.

Yeah, next thing you know they'll be demanding people be allowed to hear other people speak. How dare they!

WTF is this supposed to mean? I hope you realize that Ahmadinejad and the Iranian government is your supposed personal worst nightmare, a religious state. One doesn't have the luxury over there of the same legal right that is allowing Ahmadinejad to speak here.

One would think that people who claim to be intelligent could recognize a simple false dilemma when presented with one. It is possible for both Bush and Ahmadinejad to both suck and at the same time. You don't have to pick one over the other.

What I mean is that the university is under quite a bit of pressure to not hold the session at all. Why should supporting Columbia be equated with supporting Ahmadinejad? Why can't those who want to hear him speak do so without being shouted down by the likes of Bill Donahue?
 

dahunan

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How many people would you say Bush is responsible for losing their lives Iraqis and Americans? Why should he be allowed to speak anywhere? ;)
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Martin
What I mean is that the university is under quite a bit of pressure to not hold the session at all. Why should supporting Columbia be equated with supporting Ahmadinejad? Why can't those who want to hear him speak do so without being shouted down by the likes of Bill Donahue?

Except I wasn't presenting that argument or anything even remotely similar. Nice straw man though. :roll:
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: dahunan
How many people would you say Bush is responsible for losing their lives Iraqis and Americans? Why should he be allowed to speak anywhere? ;)

Bush and Ahmadinejad can speak all they want. The question is why would anyone want to listen?
 

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Originally posted by: dahunan
How many people would you say Bush is responsible for losing their lives Iraqis and Americans? Why should he be allowed to speak anywhere? ;)


Your strawman in defense of this man is reprehensible.
 

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This thread not about Bush.

Any more references as such within this thread will cause a lock.


Senior Anandtech Moderator
Common Courtesy
 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: Sinsear
Originally posted by: dahunan
How many people would you say Bush is responsible for losing their lives Iraqis and Americans? Why should he be allowed to speak anywhere? ;)


Your strawman in defense of this man is reprehensible.

I did not defend.. just comparing

 

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I don't understand the big deal, here is what i think could happen

#1- Usual propaganda, not answering questions he doesn't like, rambling on without making much sense... and broad cast to the entire world with the end result of him looking like a total fool.
#2- WTF :confused: that didn't make sense. End result of him look a little less a fool then #1.
#3- He retracts some of his statements or something similar and a positive outcome occurs (don't hold your breath on this one).
#4- Somehow it goes all FUBAR (look it up).


The big thing is that he's not picking the questions and unless they totally wuss out, they will be hard questions. To those who say he can go spew his propaganda at home, while at home he's not answering questions he doesn't like and for the whole world to see.

Of course he'll take the best spin possible on this just as all other leaders do, but he'll have a hard time suppressing his stupidity (i believe in #1) to even his own people.
 

1prophet

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The most important question is will his speech and the questions presented to him be shown live and uncensored in Iran.
 

Martin

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Martin
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Martin
Originally posted by: Vic
Looks like Ahmadinejad is becoming more popular in America than he is in his own country, where it's a crime to speak out against Islam or the government, or to drink alcohol.

Yeah, next thing you know they'll be demanding people be allowed to hear other people speak. How dare they!

WTF is this supposed to mean? I hope you realize that Ahmadinejad and the Iranian government is your supposed personal worst nightmare, a religious state. One doesn't have the luxury over there of the same legal right that is allowing Ahmadinejad to speak here.

One would think that people who claim to be intelligent could recognize a simple false dilemma when presented with one. It is possible for both Bush and Ahmadinejad to both suck and at the same time. You don't have to pick one over the other.

What I mean is that the university is under quite a bit of pressure to not hold the session at all. Why should supporting Columbia be equated with supporting Ahmadinejad? Why can't those who want to hear him speak do so without being shouted down by the likes of Bill Donahue?

Except I wasn't presenting that argument or anything even remotely similar. Nice straw man though. :roll:

Of course you weren't implying that people who want to hear him speak and ask questions are all crazies that want to restrict speech and ban alcohol, right? You just happened to put down a snide remark in a thread on the a different topic...
 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: Martin
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Martin
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Martin
Originally posted by: Vic
Looks like Ahmadinejad is becoming more popular in America than he is in his own country, where it's a crime to speak out against Islam or the government, or to drink alcohol.

Yeah, next thing you know they'll be demanding people be allowed to hear other people speak. How dare they!

WTF is this supposed to mean? I hope you realize that Ahmadinejad and the Iranian government is your supposed personal worst nightmare, a religious state. One doesn't have the luxury over there of the same legal right that is allowing Ahmadinejad to speak here.

One would think that people who claim to be intelligent could recognize a simple false dilemma when presented with one. It is possible for both Bush and Ahmadinejad to both suck and at the same time. You don't have to pick one over the other.

What I mean is that the university is under quite a bit of pressure to not hold the session at all. Why should supporting Columbia be equated with supporting Ahmadinejad? Why can't those who want to hear him speak do so without being shouted down by the likes of Bill Donahue?

Except I wasn't presenting that argument or anything even remotely similar. Nice straw man though. :roll:

Of course you weren't implying that people who want to hear him speak and ask questions are all crazies that want to restrict speech and ban alcohol, right? You just happened to put down a snide remark in a thread on the a different topic...


he was saying that he runs a religious state that restricts freedom because of its religion
 

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I have a feeling if Bush came to my university (Columbia), there'd be far more people protesting than against the President of Iran. Comparing kill counts, Bush has him beat by many orders of magnitude.

BTW, if anybody actually tried to listen to this Iranian President (or many leaders outside of the United States for that matter), he actually makes a lot of sense.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: dahunan
he was saying that he runs a religious state that restricts freedom because of its religion

Well, that was what I was saying, not what Martin is pretending. However, I would rephrase it a bit. Ahmadinejad does not run Iran. He is the democratic figurehead for the religious Council of Guardians, who along with Supreme Leader Grand Ayatollah Ali Khamenei are the actual rulers of the country. It must be understood that "democracy" in Iran consists of being allowed to pick from the pre-determined choices of the religious leadership.

I guess I'm having a hard time understanding why people who would otherwise be horrified (rightly so) at the very idea of having to live under such a form of government seem to be the same ones so eager to hear this representative of religious tyranny speak. I don't get it. And I don't recall posting in any of the other Ahmadinejad threads so I have no idea what "snide remark" Martin is referring to.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Narmer
I have a feeling if Bush came to my university (Columbia), there'd be far more people protesting than against the President of Iran. Comparing kill counts, Bush has him beat by many orders of magnitude.

BTW, if anybody actually tried to listen to this Iranian President (or many leaders outside of the United States for that matter), he actually makes a lot of sense.

And this ain't crazy? Tell ya what, dude... fly to Tehran and go protest Ahmadinejad there. Let me know how it works out for ya.