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When exactly does the Geforce 6800 NDA embargo lift?

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newmfavin

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Lots of info is leaking out here and there but when exactly can we expect the flood of officially approved information to be available on the websites? Date, time and timezone?
 
which would make the launch on April 14th, not April 13th. Or did you mean PM, which would make it in about 15 mins?
 
Didn't someone from this site - mr kubriki I think - say that anandtech wasn't actually under NDA but that if they leaked info early, they would never get anohter sample again?
 
According to a Digit-Life article, the 6800 has a core clock of 400MHz (not sure if Ultra or non-ultra), but if that's true, then the Radeon X800 XT will absolutely spank it, since the core clock will be 600MHz (50% higher) and memory will be 1200MHz compared to 1100MHz.
If it's true, nVidia will be spanked, especially given the competetive performance of the current gen Radeon products at lower clocks than their nVidia counterparts.

But since it's all rumour, we'll have to wait until there are real figures out.
 
The lower clock doesn't really say it all performance wise. Because the nVidia part will have a 16 pixel pipeline. Ati's could have a much higher clock but have only 8 pixel pipelines. In which, the higher clock would not make up for the lower amount of pipelines. I still don't know if it is confirmed what size pipeline the ATI part will have. So, you can't say just because nVidia's core is at 400mhz that ATI will spank it. We will have to wait and see.


Jason
 
According to a Digit-Life article, the 6800 has a core clock of 400MHz (not sure if Ultra or non-ultra), but if that's true, then the Radeon X800 XT will absolutely spank it, since the core clock will be 600MHz (50% higher) and memory will be 1200MHz compared to 1100MHz.
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that is a dumb statement. if ATI could beat Nvidia at a lower clockspeed why can't the same be said for NVidia beating ATI. you make it seem like only an ATI can be good a lower clock speed. maybe they made tons of improvements in the card.

i am waiting till i see reviews before i make any assumptions
 
Just talked to a friend of mine at nVidia.

He says the launch party is in San Francisco tonight at 7PMish.



Cheers, :beer:
PCM
 
Originally posted by: phreaqe
According to a Digit-Life article, the 6800 has a core clock of 400MHz (not sure if Ultra or non-ultra), but if that's true, then the Radeon X800 XT will absolutely spank it, since the core clock will be 600MHz (50% higher) and memory will be 1200MHz compared to 1100MHz.
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that is a dumb statement. if ATI could beat Nvidia at a lower clockspeed why can't the same be said for NVidia beating ATI. you make it seem like only an ATI can be good a lower clock speed. maybe they made tons of improvements in the card.

i am waiting till i see reviews before i make any assumptions
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Actually his logic makes perfect sense. I can't recall when ATI actually beat nvidia while having lower clock speeds if they have the same number of pipelines and identical memory interface. Ati only beat nvidia by either having more pipelines or memory that is 256-bit wide as opposed to 5800's 128-bit which ends up compensating for their disadvantage in clock speeds.

For instance take 5900xt and Radeon 9700Pro. Nvidia is able to compete because of the higher clock gpu and memory speeds or otherwise it would have not been able to. If you gave 5900xt full 8 pipelines, it would destroy the 9700Pro.
for same reason 5700Ultra is faster than 9600Pro because their memory interfaces are 128-bit and they have 4 pipelines, but it is clocked faster. For same reason Geforce 4600 beats Radeon 8500 even though their memory and pipeline numbers are equal. So when did exactly ATI beat Nvidia with lower clock speeds WHEN they had the same memory interface and # of pipelines? 😀 You can't disregard the fact that Nvidia is either crippled by slow memory or lower # of pipelines, or otherwise it would be the crowned king.

If all things are equal - ie. the number of pipelines and memory interface (256-bit for both), most likely than not a card with faster gpu and memory speeds will be faster. That is the primary comparison here between the 6800ultra and the x800xt where xt clearly holds the advantage on paper no questions asked. So don't start knocking him just yet. The problem is that X800XT might cost $499 as opposed to 6800's $299 price while maybe offering 10-20% improvement but being a lot more expensive.
 
Originally posted by: Holyhandgren
6800 is only $300? Where did you hear that?
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"HardNews 7th Edition Monday April 12, 2004

Posted by Kyle 6:42 PM (CDT)
NV40 Prices:
Sorry we have been a bit slow with the news this afternoon, we are busy working on...something. That does remind me that Darkcrow has posted pricing for a card known as the "GeForce 6800" and "GeForce 6800 Ultra". Pricing is US$299.00 and US$399 respectively. They also have posted a scan of a naked card noted to be a GeForce 6800."

Here is a link

Of course this is not 100% confirmed yet, but if it is, then it is highly optimistic for Nvidia and the consumer.
 
Originally posted by: AIWGuru
When you put the H in brackets, it highlights. FIX IT! FIX IT!
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Hold on working on it. lol It's too bad most ppl were unable to see the beauty of white text on black background hehe.
 
I wouldn't put too much into trying to judge the upcoming parts by their clockspeed. Compare the clock on the Ti4200 vs a 5800 and look at how their performance stacked up compared to each other. The R420 is a major refresh, not a new core like the NV40.

That is the primary comparison here between the 6800ultra and the x800xt where xt clearly holds the advantage on paper no questions asked.
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I don't know what papers you have seen but everything that has been posted everywhere I've seen indicates the opposite. May not end up that way, but on paper the NV40 looks rather clearly superior. ATi could well be hiding numerous features of the R420, but based on the transistor count and the fact that it's a R3x0 based part it wouldn't seem too likely.
 
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