I wouldn't want to kill anybody, not even Iraqis. War is stupid and so is everyone else fighting it.
Sorry, but I'm still laughing over your childish behavior, oh, I'm very impressed by your post count.
Yeah, you insulted me, who gives flying fvck.
Hey you win, tuff guy........ROTFLMFAO.
BTW, it's "May I" not "Amy"...
Oh look, another "intelligent" post by someone whom is sitting back enjoying the fruits of living in the US and shows so much appreciation to those hundreds of thousands of men and women whom fought and died in prior conflicts to assure he could do so.
Anubis
No Lifer
I have respect for thoes who have fought and died for this country. both my grandfathers fought in WW2. One of them stormed the beaches of Normandy. but fighting a war now is even more pointless then Vietnam. there is absoutlu No reason to go to war. so whet if these peopel hate us. they are going to hate us even more after we kill them. they are not gotta love us all of a sudden.
I posted earlier they i would choose Canada. and thats because i would. The armed services is for some peope and is not for others. it is NOT for me. im not fat and lazy im very athletic and outgoing but all the money in the world couldent get me to join the armed services. I dont care about oil prices. i drive a car that ets 30MPg i can spare a couple more cents for gas. there is a 20% chance i would join if it were for an actuall reason. like our lively hood was indangered or we were being invaded. but untill then Im going to Canada.
O and if they did away with all the demorilazation and destruction of self that goes on in the armed services it would be a lot more appealing to people. I dont have to be screamed at and beaten to the ground to do something. If asked nicely i will happily do whatever you want. But screaming at someone who is 6 inches away isnt helping the cause any
I posted earlier they i would choose Canada. and thats because i would. The armed services is for some peope and is not for others. it is NOT for me. im not fat and lazy im very athletic and outgoing but all the money in the world couldent get me to join the armed services. I dont care about oil prices. i drive a car that ets 30MPg i can spare a couple more cents for gas. there is a 20% chance i would join if it were for an actuall reason. like our lively hood was indangered or we were being invaded. but untill then Im going to Canada.
O and if they did away with all the demorilazation and destruction of self that goes on in the armed services it would be a lot more appealing to people. I dont have to be screamed at and beaten to the ground to do something. If asked nicely i will happily do whatever you want. But screaming at someone who is 6 inches away isnt helping the cause any
Everybody who thinks this war is about gas prices should stop bullets on the front lines. I am fvcking sick of whiny sons of bitches coming on here and saying they would run to Canada. I hope I would be able to come into Canada and drag your ass back. Who gives you the freedom to run your c0cksucker all day long? Our government and our military. Maybe my language was harsh in this post but I am tired of watching people(especially the 8 or 9 clones in this thread that are obvious trolls regardless of whether or not they agree with me) play grabass with each other and expect those of us who WOULD/WILL fight to protect their way of life. Ok, pansies have it your way. War is hell and I don't want to go but if I get drafted I would have no problem with it. My father was drafted into Vietnam not long after he was married and fought for his country. I would never let him nor myself down.
I have never seen so many scared people in my life. Some of you are so damned spoiled that you feel you are not obligated to serve when you damn know well you are. Really the draft is not an issue even in a two front war IMO because we have a large enough standing army and reserves right now to handle both N. Korea and Iraq at the same time if we had to. Hell if it comes down to the draft I will enlist before I get drafted. I would prefer to have some say in my assignment rather then doing latrine patrol.
I could keep going but you sons of bitches have your minds made up to go run to Canada because you are scared of your own damn shadow. Fvck this current generation and the future generation because everyone seems to be a damn crybaby pansy ass who feels entitled to something. Asshats.
I have never seen so many scared people in my life. Some of you are so damned spoiled that you feel you are not obligated to serve when you damn know well you are. Really the draft is not an issue even in a two front war IMO because we have a large enough standing army and reserves right now to handle both N. Korea and Iraq at the same time if we had to. Hell if it comes down to the draft I will enlist before I get drafted. I would prefer to have some say in my assignment rather then doing latrine patrol.
I could keep going but you sons of bitches have your minds made up to go run to Canada because you are scared of your own damn shadow. Fvck this current generation and the future generation because everyone seems to be a damn crybaby pansy ass who feels entitled to something. Asshats.
Originally posted by: EndGame
Oh look, another "intelligent" post by someone whom is sitting back enjoying the fruits of living in the US and shows so much appreciation to those hundreds of thousands of men and women whom fought and died in prior conflicts to assure he could do so."Lest we forget!"
And what freedom are you fighting for? There are no Iraqi's in my living room oppressing me. How about we work with the UN through this problem and get some impartial studies done but I'm afriad we're trying to pick a fight. If I felt like me, my family, or the nation was in danger it would be one thing, but so far I'm not convinced of a need for this war.
As far as the "its my duty" arguements or something like that. Your job as a good citizen is to respect, but also watch your governemnt. To blindly go fight or even support a war without really believing in it is foolish in my mind. No sense of duty can convince me that I should be willing to kill others, that should be a decision that a person can justify to themselves.
From the name calling and lack of any real content or discussion I'm starting to agree with the others who have suggested this is simply trolling.
Its all irrelevant anyway since there will be no drafting, but this could be a good discussion anyway.
Originally posted by: Millennium
Everybody who thinks this war is about gas prices should stop bullets on the front lines. I am fvcking sick of whiny sons of bitches coming on here and saying they would run to Canada. I hope I would be able to come into Canada and drag your ass back. Who gives you the freedom to run your c0cksucker all day long? Our government and our military. Maybe my language was harsh in this post but I am tired of watching people(especially the 8 or 9 clones in this thread that are obvious trolls regardless of whether or not they agree with me) play grabass with each other and expect those of us who WOULD/WILL fight to protect their way of life. Ok, pansies have it your way. War is hell and I don't want to go but if I get drafted I would have no problem with it. My father was drafted into Vietnam not long after he was married and fought for his country. I would never let him nor myself down.
I have never seen so many scared people in my life. Some of you are so damned spoiled that you feel you are not obligated to serve when you damn know well you are. Really the draft is not an issue even in a two front war IMO because we have a large enough standing army and reserves right now to handle both N. Korea and Iraq at the same time if we had to. Hell if it comes down to the draft I will enlist before I get drafted. I would prefer to have some say in my assignment rather then doing latrine patrol.
I could keep going but you sons of bitches have your minds made up to go run to Canada because you are scared of your own damn shadow. Fvck this current generation and the future generation because everyone seems to be a damn crybaby pansy ass who feels entitled to something. Asshats.
Well said.....I like add that nowadays it's all about me, me, me, and what about me.......sadly, selfishness is running rampant
in this country.
Amused
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Originally posted by: Soybomb
Originally posted by: EndGame
Oh look, another "intelligent" post by someone whom is sitting back enjoying the fruits of living in the US and shows so much appreciation to those hundreds of thousands of men and women whom fought and died in prior conflicts to assure he could do so."Lest we forget!"
And what freedom are you fighting for? There are no Iraqi's in my living room oppressing me. How about we work with the UN through this problem and get some impartial studies done but I'm afriad we're trying to pick a fight. If I felt like me, my family, or the nation was in danger it would be one thing, but so far I'm not convinced of a need for this war.
From the name calling and lack of any real content or discussion I'm starting to agree with the others who have suggested this is simply trolling.
Were there any Nazis in your grandparent's livingroom oppressing them in 1941? If not, was US involvement in the European theater of WWII justified? If so, why?
Originally posted by: Soybomb
Originally posted by: EndGame
Oh look, another "intelligent" post by someone whom is sitting back enjoying the fruits of living in the US and shows so much appreciation to those hundreds of thousands of men and women whom fought and died in prior conflicts to assure he could do so."Lest we forget!"
And what freedom are you fighting for? There are no Iraqi's in my living room oppressing me. How about we work with the UN through this problem and get some impartial studies done but I'm afriad we're trying to pick a fight. If I felt like me, my family, or the nation was in danger it would be one thing, but so far I'm not convinced of a need for this war.
From the name calling and lack of any real content or discussion I'm starting to agree with the others who have suggested this is simply trolling.
That kind of thinking is dangerous. Of course the Iraqis are not sitting in my living room oppressing me but they sure as hell are going to try to. They used chemical weapons before on the Kurds and Iran. The have been trying to develop even more powerful WMD since BEFORE the Gulf War. Am I supposed to wait before Iraq is in my living room? Now I don't want to jump the gun and invade Iraq without more proof right now. I do want us to build up troops, map targets and prepare a war plan. When Iraq decides to expel the Weapon Inspectors I want bombs to rain down on Baghdad that night. If Iraq continues to allow inspections and no evidence of any kind is found of a program to develop WMD is found then we can stop rattling sabers in the direction of Iraq and focus on those pesky N. Koreans.
BTW, not only is your family and nation in danger, your way of life might just change if we allow Iraq to play with WMDs.
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Soybomb
Originally posted by: EndGame
Oh look, another "intelligent" post by someone whom is sitting back enjoying the fruits of living in the US and shows so much appreciation to those hundreds of thousands of men and women whom fought and died in prior conflicts to assure he could do so."Lest we forget!"
And what freedom are you fighting for? There are no Iraqi's in my living room oppressing me. How about we work with the UN through this problem and get some impartial studies done but I'm afriad we're trying to pick a fight. If I felt like me, my family, or the nation was in danger it would be one thing, but so far I'm not convinced of a need for this war.
From the name calling and lack of any real content or discussion I'm starting to agree with the others who have suggested this is simply trolling.
Were there any Nazis in your grandparent's livingroom oppressing them in 1941? If not, was the European theater of WWII justified? If so, why?
There were not, but it was a serious threat in the future if their powers continued to grow. It was a real possibility to consider at some points. You fear Iraq growing strong enough in the next say couple years to mount an invasion or seriously threaten your freedom?
Originally posted by: Soybomb
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Soybomb
Originally posted by: EndGame
Oh look, another "intelligent" post by someone whom is sitting back enjoying the fruits of living in the US and shows so much appreciation to those hundreds of thousands of men and women whom fought and died in prior conflicts to assure he could do so."Lest we forget!"
And what freedom are you fighting for? There are no Iraqi's in my living room oppressing me. How about we work with the UN through this problem and get some impartial studies done but I'm afriad we're trying to pick a fight. If I felt like me, my family, or the nation was in danger it would be one thing, but so far I'm not convinced of a need for this war.
From the name calling and lack of any real content or discussion I'm starting to agree with the others who have suggested this is simply trolling.
Were there any Nazis in your grandparent's livingroom oppressing them in 1941? If not, was the European theater of WWII justified? If so, why?
There were not, but it was a serious threat in the future if their powers continued to grow. It was a real possibility to consider at some points. You fear Iraq growing strong enough in the next say couple years to mount an invasion or seriously threaten your freedom?
Saddam doesn't play with a full deck and I am not worried about an invasion or his troops. I am worried about his attempts to create powerful WMD and kill me with them.
Anubis
No Lifer
Greater Good. Because Hitler was Evil and he started war with europe. There currently is no war we are going to go assist. we are goint to start it.
Ecplain to me The "Greater Good" In a war with Iraq or N Korea. If we kill them all there will still be terrorists in the world dosent seem like it will solve anything. just piss more peopel off.
and BTW Millennium im not scared be in a war. Im not afarid. it just something i choose not to do. and peopel should NEVER be obligated to fight for something they dont beleive in
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Originally posted by: Soybomb
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Soybomb
Originally posted by: EndGame
Oh look, another "intelligent" post by someone whom is sitting back enjoying the fruits of living in the US and shows so much appreciation to those hundreds of thousands of men and women whom fought and died in prior conflicts to assure he could do so."Lest we forget!"
And what freedom are you fighting for? There are no Iraqi's in my living room oppressing me. How about we work with the UN through this problem and get some impartial studies done but I'm afriad we're trying to pick a fight. If I felt like me, my family, or the nation was in danger it would be one thing, but so far I'm not convinced of a need for this war.
From the name calling and lack of any real content or discussion I'm starting to agree with the others who have suggested this is simply trolling.
Were there any Nazis in your grandparent's livingroom oppressing them in 1941? If not, was the European theater of WWII justified? If so, why?
There were not, but it was a serious threat in the future if their powers continued to grow. It was a real possibility to consider at some points. You fear Iraq growing strong enough in the next say couple years to mount an invasion or seriously threaten your freedom?
If no one stops him? Of course. What, you think he'll slip in the tub and crack his skull before he gets his hands on nukes or a delivery system for his bio weapons?
Saddam has proven to be a ruthless dictator. I see much to fear if he is allowed to go on unchecked. When do you propose to stop him? Now, while it's easy, or later, after he's nuked a few targets?
Perhaps its short sighted of me, but I think if anyone rains bombs on Baghdad it should be a joint operation with the UN and not just the US jumping in as the main attacker. And really I think raining bombs is bad because you're just getting innocent civillians so I'd rather see targeted attacks, but thats another thing all together.Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: Soybomb
Originally posted by: EndGame
Oh look, another "intelligent" post by someone whom is sitting back enjoying the fruits of living in the US and shows so much appreciation to those hundreds of thousands of men and women whom fought and died in prior conflicts to assure he could do so."Lest we forget!"
And what freedom are you fighting for? There are no Iraqi's in my living room oppressing me. How about we work with the UN through this problem and get some impartial studies done but I'm afriad we're trying to pick a fight. If I felt like me, my family, or the nation was in danger it would be one thing, but so far I'm not convinced of a need for this war.
From the name calling and lack of any real content or discussion I'm starting to agree with the others who have suggested this is simply trolling.
That kind of thinking is dangerous. Of course the Iraqis are not sitting in my living room oppressing me but they sure as hell are going to try to. They used chemical weapons before on the Kurds and Iran. The have been trying to develop even more powerful WMD since BEFORE the Gulf War. Am I supposed to wait before Iraq is in my living room? Now I don't want to jump the gun and invade Iraq without more proof right now. I do want us to build up troops, map targets and prepare a war plan. When Iraq decides to expel the Weapon Inspectors I want bombs to rain down on Baghdad that night. If Iraq continues to allow inspections and no evidence of any kind is found of a program to develop WMD is found then we can stop rattling sabers in the direction of Iraq and focus on those pesky N. Koreans.
BTW, not only is your family and nation in danger, your way of life might just change if we allow Iraq to play with WMDs.
For what its worth, how long can we stop Iraq from developing WMD, or even allowing them to posses them? At some point in time its going to happen like it or not. Think of all countries that have them where you don't agree with their politics already? Really having them doesn't mean a whole lot any more since using them against a sizable opponent (say the US) would be fairly foolish since their WMD would assure you didn't reap any benifits of your attack. Kinda like MAD in the cold war.
Amused
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As I asked before, was it wise to wait until Hitler had most of Europe under control? Or should he have been stomped on as soon as he broke the treaty of Versailles?
Would you rather wait for millions to die? Would you rather wait for Iraq to get their hands on nukes or a delivery system for bio weapons, which Saddam has had no problem using before?
As others have pointed out, this thread is moot, as there will not be a draft.
Mellineum - <<Now I don't want to jump the gun and invade Iraq without more proof right now. I do want us to build up troops, map targets and prepare a war plan. When Iraq decides to expel the Weapon Inspectors I want bombs to rain down on Baghdad that night. If Iraq continues to allow inspections and no evidence of any kind is found of a program to develop WMD is found then we can stop rattling sabers in the direction of Iraq and focus on those pesky N. Koreans.>>
This is a statement that I agree with most whole-heartedly. I'm afraid, however, that even if the inspectors don't find anything...we'll find some reason to go in. I'm curious to know what your opinion is on that. I'm curious to know what your opinion is of people refusing to fight if our government sends the troops in without any evidence recovered by the inspectors.
This is a statement that I agree with most whole-heartedly. I'm afraid, however, that even if the inspectors don't find anything...we'll find some reason to go in. I'm curious to know what your opinion is on that. I'm curious to know what your opinion is of people refusing to fight if our government sends the troops in without any evidence recovered by the inspectors.
Anubis
No Lifer
I can spell. Typing is my issue. That and i just dont give a sh!t what you think about my spelling. you obviously understoon what i was saying.
and IIRC in this country i have freedom of choice and i choose NOT to be in the army. End of story
and IIRC in this country i have freedom of choice and i choose NOT to be in the army. End of story
Originally posted by: Soybomb
Perhaps its short sighted of me, but I think if anyone rains bombs on Baghdad it should be a joint operation with the UN and not just the US jumping in as the main attacker. And really I think raining bombs is bad because you're just getting innocent civillians so I'd rather see targeted attacks, but thats another thing all together.Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: Soybomb
Originally posted by: EndGame
Oh look, another "intelligent" post by someone whom is sitting back enjoying the fruits of living in the US and shows so much appreciation to those hundreds of thousands of men and women whom fought and died in prior conflicts to assure he could do so."Lest we forget!"
And what freedom are you fighting for? There are no Iraqi's in my living room oppressing me. How about we work with the UN through this problem and get some impartial studies done but I'm afriad we're trying to pick a fight. If I felt like me, my family, or the nation was in danger it would be one thing, but so far I'm not convinced of a need for this war.
From the name calling and lack of any real content or discussion I'm starting to agree with the others who have suggested this is simply trolling.
That kind of thinking is dangerous. Of course the Iraqis are not sitting in my living room oppressing me but they sure as hell are going to try to. They used chemical weapons before on the Kurds and Iran. The have been trying to develop even more powerful WMD since BEFORE the Gulf War. Am I supposed to wait before Iraq is in my living room? Now I don't want to jump the gun and invade Iraq without more proof right now. I do want us to build up troops, map targets and prepare a war plan. When Iraq decides to expel the Weapon Inspectors I want bombs to rain down on Baghdad that night. If Iraq continues to allow inspections and no evidence of any kind is found of a program to develop WMD is found then we can stop rattling sabers in the direction of Iraq and focus on those pesky N. Koreans.
BTW, not only is your family and nation in danger, your way of life might just change if we allow Iraq to play with WMDs.
For what its worth, how long can we stop Iraq from developing WMD, or even allowing them to posses them? At some point in time its going to happen like it or not. Think of all countries that have them where you don't agree with their politics already? Really having them doesn't mean a whole lot any more since using them against a sizable opponent (say the US) would be fairly foolish since their WMD would assure you didn't reap any benifits of your attack. Kinda like MAD in the cold war.
First of all I never advocated killing or bombing civilians. Baghdad is Saddam's C&C and nerve center. It has to be hit first with surgical strikes. Don't twist my word and imply that I said something that I did not. Secondly Mutual Assured Destruction means nothing to Saddam as he does not care about his people nor us. We can prevent Iraq from getting WMD by having Weapons Inspectors and a military presence is the region. Saying they will get them eventually might be probable or inprobable but I would rather reduce the risk right now while we have the chance. As far the countries such as India, China, or Pakistan that have WMD it is not as much of a threat because they believe in diplomacy and tend to not use WMD on their on people.
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