When are they going to send this Cindy Sheehan to Jail...

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: Necrosaro420
for being nothing more than a STALKER to the president?


WAHHHH You Killed my son! Your son VOLENTEERED for the ARMY, this is what ARMY's do, your son KNEW what could HAPPEN, your son KNEW there were GUNS, EXPLOSIONS envolved. They showed a clip where you had got on TV 3 years ago, you LOVED Bush then...Go home you stalker.

Welcome to America. What country are you from, one of the fascist regimes I assume? Here in America, we have a document called the United States Constitution. It is the foundation of the United States. It includes a number of amendments, the first ten of which are called The Bill of Rights. They guarantee our citizens have certain fundamental rights. You might be interested in the first:

• Amendment I
  
  Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Questions?

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
What about the lowly war-mongering freepers who are busy organizing their own little counter-protest. What shameless attention whores! I wonder if Bush's neighbor will fire a few warning shots their way too? Or is it dove season? Liberal season! Dove season! Liberal season! Freeper season! FIRE!

:laugh:

HAHAHA.

So Sheehan protesting is justified but freepers showing their support for the wars are attention whores. Got it.

Nice try. Both sides are now using this little episode down in Crawford for partisan gain. The irony of the freepers going down there to become little attention whores just like Sheehan isn't lost on me. I guess you become what you hate the most, eh Z?

 

[2Xtreme21]

Let me kill a loved one of yours for absolutely no reason whatsoever. We'll see how "irrational" you become.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
What about the lowly war-mongering freepers who are busy organizing their own little counter-protest. What shameless attention whores! I wonder if Bush's neighbor will fire a few warning shots their way too? Or is it dove season? Liberal season! Dove season! Liberal season! Freeper season! FIRE!

:laugh:

HAHAHA.

So Sheehan protesting is justified but freepers showing their support for the wars are attention whores. Got it.

Nice try. Both sides are now using this little episode down in Crawford for partisan gain. The irony of the freepers going down there to become little attention whores just like Sheehan isn't lost on me. I guess you become what you hate the most, eh Z?

What are you doing reading freerepublic.com?

It, like most everything, has become a battle of the partisan hacks. Of course, she's kind of pulled the attention away from Rove. Maybe she's a Rove double-agent! :shocked:

 

[Rainsford]

Seriously, syzygy, zendari, wiin, Necrosaro420 and anyone else that shares your distorted view of the world...my comment was directed at you guys. It's not about views of the Iraq war, it's about having some of that respect for those who serve that you all brag about having. This is just as bad as O'Reilly ripping into that kid who's dad died on 9/11 in the World Trade Center. For all your talk, you guys value nothing above your political views. Not one damn thing. Sure, those people who died in Iraq or on 9/11, or who have relatives who did, are great and deserve support...as long as they support your agenda. The second they don't, drop them as fast as you can and rip them apart (live on Fox News if possible).

This isn't about politics, it's about basic human decency. She has every right to do what she is doing, partially because she's an American like the rest of us, and partially because this conflict is a lot more personal for her than it is for most of us. But you don't respect her rights as an American, and you don't have any compassion for the loss of her son. There is something really wrong with you when politics comes before everything else.

 

[zendari]

You can respect the son without respecting the mom.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: zendari
You can respect the son without respecting the mom.

Maybe...but what about the rest of what I said? Do you really think it's ok to treat her like you guys are, even though her son died in Iraq, just because she has different political views that you?

 

[arsbanned]

Originally posted by: syzygy

Originally posted by: arsbanned

Originally posted by: syzygy

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: syzygy
bush will continue to ignore her and gain sympathy points from the masses.

Sympathy? What is there to feel sorry for President Bush over?

ignoring the obvious isnt convincing . . .

sheehan's stunt is pathetic and the shriller she becomes and the more loons horde to
her desperate cause the more the public will view her as a cheap, bottom-rung ideologue who's wasted the empathy her ordeal rightly deserves.

bush can weather this little squall by taking the high road; quietly continuing with his desire to meet with the parents of those who have fallen and making himself as available as possible to the familes, assuming they maintain their civility when they express a difference of opinion.

sheehan has lost beyond redemption all respect and empathy when she pulled this stunt and chose to accept the support of those lowly liberals.

The "loons" as you refer to them, are the majority. Or are you arguing that a majority of Americans support the war? If yes I'd like links to your supporting documentation.

no, no. the majority voted in bush. and while the majority of americans are not happy with the current state of affairs in iraq, that does not mean they have any empathy for a sheehan who is doing nothing to better the situation by calling the president her son's 'murderer'.

you see her appeal is a very exotic taste shared by a certain clique that long ago lost their moral compass. she's chugging along on sheer desperation, which explains why the flys came a-buzzing.

If there is justice in the World you will experience her pain at some point in your life.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: arsbanned

If there is justice in the World you will experience her pain at some point in your life.

Are we now wishing death upon the forum members' children? All you useless tools in this thread, including the OP, need to grow the fvck up. :|

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: arsbanned

If there is justice in the World you will experience her pain at some point in your life.

Are we now wishing death upon the forum member's children? All you useless tools in this thread need to grow the fvck up.

Including the useless tools mocking a woman who's son died in Iraq...?

 

[arsbanned]

Originally posted by: zendari
You can respect the son without respecting the mom.

You can respect the troops without respecting the president and his supporters.

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: arsbanned

If there is justice in the World you will experience her pain at some point in your life.

Are we now wishing death upon the forum member's children? All you useless tools in this thread need to grow the fvck up.

Including the useless tools mocking a woman who's son died in Iraq...?

Oh well they're just fine. That's a good thing in their World! :disgust:

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: zendari
You can respect the son without respecting the mom.

Maybe...but what about the rest of what I said? Do you really think it's ok to treat her like you guys are, even though her son died in Iraq, just because she has different political views that you?

You're wrong. I respect her right to protest and I am sorry that her son was killed. That hardly means I have to agree with her position. I also think she is a sellout to the fringe left, that she is a puppet for Moore and company that she has prioritized partisan politics over her son's life. She's already started blasting Israel for some apparent reason. She's talking more like a polical activist than a grieving mom.

You can respect the troops without respecting the president and his supporters.

Agreed. I'd like to hope that (most of) the left doesn't want us to fail in Iraq and our soliders to be killed.

 

[TNM93]

Originally posted by: zendari

I also think she is a sellout to the fringe left, that she is a puppet for Moore and company that she has prioritized partisan politics over her son's life. She's already started blasting Israel for some apparent reason. She's talking more like a polical activist than a grieving mom.

Her son died as a result of the president's decision. What do you want her to do? Fall in line with the Republican party? Maybe she was originally activist and now that her son has died, she's chosen to become more activist. Nothing wrong with that.

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: ysperalda

Originally posted by: zendari

I also think she is a sellout to the fringe left, that she is a puppet for Moore and company that she has prioritized partisan politics over her son's life. She's already started blasting Israel for some apparent reason. She's talking more like a polical activist than a grieving mom.

Her son died as a result of the president's decision. What do you want her to do? Fall in line with the Republican party? Maybe she was originally activist and now that her son has died, she's chosen to become more activist. Nothing wrong with that.

What do I think?

1. Produce documents that shows her son was anti-war. Real evidence not her opinion.
2. Stop blasting Israel and all the other leftist propaganda sh!t she has said unrelated to the Iraq war.

Then she might be respectable.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
What about the lowly war-mongering freepers who are busy organizing their own little counter-protest. What shameless attention whores! I wonder if Bush's neighbor will fire a few warning shots their way too? Or is it dove season? Liberal season! Dove season! Liberal season! Freeper season! FIRE!

:laugh:

HAHAHA.

So Sheehan protesting is justified but freepers showing their support for the wars are attention whores. Got it.

Nice try. Both sides are now using this little episode down in Crawford for partisan gain. The irony of the freepers going down there to become little attention whores just like Sheehan isn't lost on me. I guess you become what you hate the most, eh Z?

What are you doing reading freerepublic.com?

It, like most everything, has become a battle of the partisan hacks. Of course, she's kind of pulled the attention away from Rove. Maybe she's a Rove double-agent! :shocked:

Heh, heh, I like to keep an eye on the extremists on the right. For the most part though, I keep my political discussions limited to this site.

Rove double super secret background agent, maybe!

Oh don't worry, come October (or whenever the federal grand jury finishes their investigation), we'll get to hear lots more about either Rove or whomever it was in the administration who was a naughty leaker.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: zendari
You can respect the son without respecting the mom.

Maybe...but what about the rest of what I said? Do you really think it's ok to treat her like you guys are, even though her son died in Iraq, just because she has different political views that you?

You're wrong. I respect her right to protest and I am sorry that her son was killed. That hardly means I have to agree with her position. I also think she is a sellout to the fringe left, that she is a puppet for Moore and company that she has prioritized partisan politics over her son's life. She's already started blasting Israel for some apparent reason. She's talking more like a polical activist than a grieving mom.

If that's what you believe, I have no problem with that. But the stuff I hear (including stuff in this thread) suggested the opposite to me. If I'm wrong, that's my bad.

But I also think it's worth noting that the idea of seperating support/respect/sympathy/etc for a person with their views is not a viewpoint a lot of people have in other cases. Not saying you do or don't, I'm just saying that this sort of thing works best when it's applied everywhere.

You can respect the troops without respecting the president and his supporters.

Agreed. I'd like to hope that (most of) the left doesn't want us to fail in Iraq and our soliders to be killed.

I think you hit the nail on the head here...it is possible to hope we win in Iraq, and hope our soldiers don't die, while not agreeing with Bush or his supporters on the issue. At least I think that's kind of what you are saying. If so, I agree.

 

[digiram]

Yes....Fvck the mother of the son who died in Iraq, supposedly, for you/us or whatever. That's the spirit of the NeoCon. While she's mourning over the death of her son and just wants to know what the real reason for his death was, you're sitting in front of your computer masturbating while watching pron and posting this BS at the forums.

If it were my son that died, and someone said some garbage like this to me out in the streets. No doubt about it, we would have to throw down.

RIP Casey.

 

[syzygy]

Originally posted by: Rainsford
it is possible to hope we win in Iraq, and hope our soldiers don't die, while not agreeing with Bush or his supporters on the issue.

how can you hope 'we win in iraq' and not agree 'with bush and his supporters' when they are expressing the same hope ?

 

[sandorski]

If Bush was a Man he'd have met with her already, but he's not so it's no surprise he whines on camera about the ever generic "the enemy" as if meeting this distraught Mother will lead to the collapse of Civilization. He's been a Coward all his life, why should he change now?

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: Rainsford
You got to love the selective outrage and compassion from some of these guys.

"Support the troops you gutless, liberal, America hating coward!"

"Hey, mom who's son died in Iraq...fvck you!"

As to the validity of her complaints, although it certainly is a possibility that you might die when you join the army...I think every person who joins up hopes that if they have to die, it's for a good cause. And if it isn't, I would think most of them would like the rest of us to ask questions. I'm not passing judgement on Iraq here, I'm just saying that "hey, you signed up" shouldn't be a get out of jail free card.

:beer:

 

[tommywishbone]

Everyone must know that there is no way in hell Bush's handlers are going to let him meet & talk with her. Bush is a stuttering stammering idiot. He can't read from prompter. He can't read from a script. He can't hold a press conference. He can't even tell a joke without stumbling over the punch line. Mrs. Sheehan should realize this and forget about the idea of getting any satisfaction from the chimp.

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
What about the lowly war-mongering freepers who are busy organizing their own little counter-protest. What shameless attention whores! I wonder if Bush's neighbor will fire a few warning shots their way too? Or is it dove season? Liberal season! Dove season! Liberal season! Freeper season! FIRE!

:laugh:

HAHAHA.

So Sheehan protesting is justified but freepers showing their support for the wars are attention whores. Got it.

The attention whoring freepers shouldn't be on there posting, they should be over in Iraq, supporting the war on the front lines.

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: syzygy

Originally posted by: Rainsford
it is possible to hope we win in Iraq, and hope our soldiers don't die, while not agreeing with Bush or his supporters on the issue.

how can you hope 'we win in iraq' and not agree 'with bush and his supporters' when they are expressing the same hope ?

Why is that hard to understand? Have you ever watched a sports team you support screw up a game? Did you stop hoping they'd win, or did you get upset about their bungling? Has anyone on a sports team you support ever been exposed as breaking the law, using drugs, whatever? Did you stop supporting the team, or did you become unhappy with the specific player(s) who were in the wrong?

We can support the same end while disagreeing on the means to that end.

 

[TRUMPHENT]

Originally posted by: Necrosaro420
for being nothing more than a STALKER to the president?


WAHHHH You Killed my son! Your son VOLENTEERED for the ARMY, this is what ARMY's do, your son KNEW what could HAPPEN, your son KNEW there were GUNS, EXPLOSIONS envolved. They showed a clip where you had got on TV 3 years ago, you LOVED Bush then...Go home you stalker.

Bush has the remainder of three weeks left of his vacation. Cindy might induce W to return to work ahead of schedule. That would be something he has never done in his life before now.

If Ms Sheehan had seen some hint of success in the effort that took her son, she wouldn't be there. Rumsfeld had the good sense to force General Shinseki into retirement. Shinseki only proffered the necessary number of troops for success in Iraq.

Now, the US and its laughable coalition can't begin to muster another Operation Fallujah. We had to borrow a brigade of Brits to free up the troops needed for investing Fallujah.

It's rob Peter to pay Paul in Iraq. Fallujah was small beans compared to a city like Mosul. Do the math.

It's surprising that Bush hasn't been ambushed by mothers of dead soldiers before.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: syzygy

Originally posted by: Rainsford
it is possible to hope we win in Iraq, and hope our soldiers don't die, while not agreeing with Bush or his supporters on the issue.

how can you hope 'we win in iraq' and not agree 'with bush and his supporters' when they are expressing the same hope ?

Bowfinger pretty much hit the nail on the head. My (and others') disagreement with Bush and his supporters isn't over their overall end goal, it's with the way they wants to reach the goal. I have no problem with the desire to find some kind of victory in Iraq, and the war on terror as a whole, but so far I'm not convinced any of you could protect a lemonade stand or defeat the Shriners. I realize that seems a little extreme of a generalization, but for some reason some people still don't get this point. It is not that complex...I'm fine with the goals, the methods...not so much.