When are the Pals going to get their own state?

[Macamus Prime]

You are confused and/or ashamed to admit for what your record displays:

Your words, and theme of desiring high crimes are consistent with your past posts.

I suggest you not to repeat you past behaviour of get angry with me for accurately critiquing what is said.

You may be best to change your tune by critiquing those states and individuals who enact and advocate what you are now in denial of stating.

Genocide, annexation, and ethnic cleansing, are vile, aren't they? I fully understand your above effort to disassociate with such depravity.

I already made myself clear; it's a simple matter of an overpowering side taking out a weaker side that has no hope of surviving.

Again, I don't agree with it. But, since you are out hunting for those in support of genocide, there are plenty of posters here who love it when Muslims are harmed/killed and they even have made posts and comments praising these deaths. People have even posted we shoot Muslims who request student loans at no interest - where is your outrage towards them?

 

[Macamus Prime]

Israel ceasing occupation and colonisation of territory outside of its borders is certainly a root to a solution. Only Israel is in control to choose such an plausible avenue to peace.

Yeah - again, that isn't going to happen. Israel has told the world many times over to go fuck itself.

Do you (Europe, Asia, Russia, UN, whoever) then send in troops to protect the Palestinians from Israel?

 

[EagleKeeper]

Maybe when the Palestinians accept that Israel will exist, then Israel will pull back.

Up until then; no one will be forcing Israel to pull back - legal or not.

After all other countries have the right to self defense against aggressors; why not Israel. When the aggression stops; the land can be returned.

 

[Whiskey16]

Do you (Europe, Asia, Russia, UN, whoever) then send in troops to protect the Palestinians from Israel?

The very first UN Peace Keeping mission was in the Sinai, between Egypt and Israel.

And no, I do not forsee such a future mission taking place between Israel and Palestine. Peace Keeping requires all belligerents to desire and accept the presence of such forces and their mission. As Israel maintains a state policy of occupation and lebensraum, Israel remains the active aggressor and obstacle to peace.

 

[Nebor]

Yeah - again, that isn't going to happen. Israel has told the world many times over to go fuck itself.

Do you (Europe, Asia, Russia, UN, whoever) then send in troops to protect the Palestinians from Israel?

I don't think he understands what you're saying. The idea that someone could agree with him but not care doesn't compute. Of course that would mean that your lack of action indicates a lack of caring. And really, his vehement message board arguing accomplishes nothing.

But keep arguing Whiskey, I'm sure it'll stop this stuff eventually:

 

[Nebor]

The very first UN Peace Keeping mission was in the Sinai, between Egypt and Israel.

And no, I do not forsee such a future mission taking place between Israel and Palestine. Peace Keeping requires all belligerents to desire and accept the presence of such forces and their mission. As Israel maintains a state policy of occupation and lebensraum, Israel remains the active aggressor and obstacle to peace.

So how are you in any way agreeing with Macmanus? Without outside intervention, the Palestinians land will continue to be taken and they'll be slowly wiped out of existence.

 

[Macamus Prime]

Of course that would mean that your lack of action indicates a lack of caring.

Well,.. at least I am not making light of a terrible car bombing,...

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Jesus guys.

 

[Broheim]

goddamn that image made me laugh HARD, I don't care if it makes me a "bad person" but that shit's funny!

 

[EagleKeeper]

So how are you in any way agreeing with Macmanus? Without outside intervention, the Palestinians land will continue to be taken and they'll be slowly wiped out of existence.

There is no Palestinian state to protect. Without boundaries; where would troops be put.
And would the troops be allowed to use force to prevent incidents.

How far would the troops extend into whose territory?

Troops only work if there is a desire to cease the issue and/or reduce tensions.

 

[Macamus Prime]

,...Israel remains the active aggressor and obstacle to peace.

Yes, sure.

And Israel won't flinch when the last Palestenian is shoved into Egypt or shot in the head.

Israel honestly does not care.

Even if the entire world decides to point nuclear missles at Israel and says "go back to the 1960s borders - or else,...", Israel won't even give the world a side glance. Israel does whatever it wants.

Why, even if you support Israel, Israel still doesn't care! The Israelis will do whatever they feel must be done.

Think about the rabid dog comment; Islamic Fundamentalists show up (one of the rabid dogs) and keeps up a 50+ year campaign of terrorising Israel. Israel (the other rabid dog) lashes out, killing the Islamic terrorists and plenty of innocent people. Israel doesn't flinch at the loss of innocent blood.

Peacekeepers try to help the Palestinians; they get bulldozed or shot. Again, Israel doesn't care.

Wait - I just realized; have you ever spoken or interacted with ANY Israelis??

 

[Throckmorton]

The title should be more clear. "Cleric" usually refers to Muslims these days. They're Catholic and Orthodox priests, and Anglican and Lutheran ministers. A simple oversight or is somebody up to something?

 

[Whiskey16]

It is very telling, Eagle Keeper, that you have a motivation to respond to me into ad nauseum with the familiar lambasted lines of poor Israel being the victim, while selectively ignoring those who support your stance for Israeli expansion with the added bonus of clear advocation for genocide and ethnic cleansing. I conclude that your silence is indicative for tolerating such extremism against Palestinians.

After all other countries have the right to self defense against aggressors;

Your predictable mantra of an altered reality rises, yet again..

Against well cited law and morality -- Israel is the aggressor. It is Israel that is annexing land that is not theirs.

You should just come out and bluntly state such rather than constantly provide false justifications.

Eagle Keeper, are you here for progressive debate or the insidious tangent of misdirecting from what is accurately stated to repeatedly fling the same shit upon the wall?

Why do you attempt to defend Israel as being just and annexing land under the auspices of self defense? Surely now you know that such a legal and moral argument is false. You'd gain more positional respect if you didn't attempt to justify Israel actions with public relations inanity, but rather plainly came out, as Macamus Prime and others, and state: screw law, morality, and screw Palestinians, I support Israelis over Arabs, and the state of Israel is to take what it can.

Eagle Keeper, you would still be ethically, morally, and legally wrong, but at least you would be honest by ceasing your repetitive Manufactured Deceit PR smokescreen of Israel into perpetuity being the defending victim. Discussion would be best served for you to be blunt to the aggressive point in this issue of Israeli/Palestinian affairs.

 

[Nebor]

Well,.. at least I am not making light of a terrible car bombing,...

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Jesus guys.

Actually that was a really well executed car bombing. *rimshot*