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What's your winter jacket?

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InflatableBuddha said:
My Carhartt jacket was made in Mexico, but shipped out of a warehouse in the US - not as ideal.

I do agree with you, and I have a few articles of clothing which are made in Canada, and few made in the US. It's getting tougher to find those items nowadays though.
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I'm sure his were made back when Mr. Carhartt himself stitched them.
 
The_Dude8 said:
Thanks for correcting my grammar; much appreciated.
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Use of a semi-colon is inappropriate here. It can be used to join to otherwise complete sentences, but your ending clause doesn't really stand alone. (although "much appreciated" is a common phrase.) 😛


KK said:
I'm sure his were made back when Mr. Carhartt himself stitched them.
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Hey...I resemble that remark!!

http://www.answers.com/topic/carhartt-inc
"Most of Carhartt's products, peddled to men, women, and children, are manufactured in about 10 US factories; the rest are produced in Mexico and Europe."
 
Something from Cabella's, similar to this one.
(Mine's tagged with SKU or model# 922326, which doesn't show up on their site. Wrong number, or discontinued, I don't know.) It's quite well-insulated, and shields against wind very well.

It's got a fair bit of heft to it, but it's nice if you're in a cold and windy place.
 
BoomerD said:
Myself, I avoid buying anything Made in China whenever possible, so everything I buy tends to be a bit more expensive than it could be if I didn't place that restriction on myself.
Carhartt products are, for the most part, Made in the USA. I believe I'm worth the extra cost of such products, and I'd FAR rather spend my money, knowing it's going to American workers, on products Made in the USA than on products made in China.
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Ridiculous, but knowing you I can see why. Made in the USA clothes aren't necessarily better. American Apparel cranks out shit all the time and they advertise MADE IN THE USA. For what? Meh. Clothes are clothes. You get what you pay for. I don't like sweatshop labor, and I would avoid that if possible, but you realize the USA isn't exactly all about textile products.

And with computers. It makes no sense for any tech company to manufacture in the US. Not only is it cheaper in China and India, they have just as capable engineers. What makes you think the US cranks out the best engineers? Half the engineers come from abroad and flood into the US companies. So big deal. It sucks that I might have trouble as an engineer finding jobs in the US, but so what? I know that the kids in China are working far harder than me to get through school so they can do engineering too. We take it for granted that we can just leave college and get a 70k+ job in engineering sitting in a cube. There are millions more struggling in China fighting for it too. While they are working their butts off slowly replacing US engineers, we've grown too complacent. And that's why it is necessary today to one-up them by doing a PhD. Of course that's no biggie because I work with a couple post docs from Asia, so it's not like they can't compete still... Meh. It is what it is.
 
DLeRium said:
Ridiculous, but knowing you I can see why. Made in the USA clothes aren't necessarily better. American Apparel cranks out shit all the time and they advertise MADE IN THE USA. For what? Meh. Clothes are clothes. You get what you pay for. I don't like sweatshop labor, and I would avoid that if possible, but you realize the USA isn't exactly all about textile products.

And with computers. It makes no sense for any tech company to manufacture in the US. Not only is it cheaper in China and India, they have just as capable engineers. What makes you think the US cranks out the best engineers? Half the engineers come from abroad and flood into the US companies. So big deal. It sucks that I might have trouble as an engineer finding jobs in the US, but so what? I know that the kids in China are working far harder than me to get through school so they can do engineering too. We take it for granted that we can just leave college and get a 70k+ job in engineering sitting in a cube. There are millions more struggling in China fighting for it too. While they are working their butts off slowly replacing US engineers, we've grown too complacent. And that's why it is necessary today to one-up them by doing a PhD. Of course that's no biggie because I work with a couple post docs from Asia, so it's not like they can't compete still... Meh. It is what it is.
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It has little to do with the workers and more with the manage. Most clothing companies who operate in China do not own or manage the factories that produce their clothing. The Chinese management cares little for quality and rushes product to churn out as much as possible for as little cost as possible.

For this reason, you'll often see Japanese companies starting factories in China and literally sending Japanese managers from Japan to China just to run and manage the factories.
 
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JMapleton said:
It has little to do with the workers and more with the manage. Most clothing companies who operate in China do not own or manage the factories that produce their clothing. The Chinese management cares little for quality and rushes product to churn out as much as possible for as little cost as possible.

For this reason, you'll often see Japanese companies starting factories and literally sending Japanese managers from Japan to China just to run and manage the factories.
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In addition to this, by buying American you support your tribe. For all our pretense at civilization, we're still just as clannish and tribe like as our ancestors 1,000 years ago. That being the case, I'd rather support my people instead of your people. I have a widening circle of preferential buying that starts at the town level, and encompasses the world. Given a choice, I'll buy closest to me, and my people. If the locals make junk, I won't go so far to support that, but I seldom run into that issue.
 
DLeRium said:
Ridiculous, but knowing you I can see why. Made in the USA clothes aren't necessarily better. American Apparel cranks out shit all the time and they advertise MADE IN THE USA. For what? Meh. Clothes are clothes. You get what you pay for. I don't like sweatshop labor, and I would avoid that if possible, but you realize the USA isn't exactly all about textile products.

And with computers. It makes no sense for any tech company to manufacture in the US. Not only is it cheaper in China and India, they have just as capable engineers. What makes you think the US cranks out the best engineers? Half the engineers come from abroad and flood into the US companies. So big deal. It sucks that I might have trouble as an engineer finding jobs in the US, but so what? I know that the kids in China are working far harder than me to get through school so they can do engineering too. We take it for granted that we can just leave college and get a 70k+ job in engineering sitting in a cube. There are millions more struggling in China fighting for it too. While they are working their butts off slowly replacing US engineers, we've grown too complacent. And that's why it is necessary today to one-up them by doing a PhD. Of course that's no biggie because I work with a couple post docs from Asia, so it's not like they can't compete still... Meh. It is what it is.
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You've commented on my Pro-American threads several times. Do you REALLY think I give two shits about the Chinese worker or the Chinese economy? I live in the USA...I care about the American economy and the American worker. Every company who sends jobs from the USA to a foreign country should be heavily penalized and their goods slapped with heavy tariffs.
 
GORE-TEX
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Marmot for really bad Michigan weather, otherwise a leather motorcycle jacket, pea coat, 3/4ths length wool coat, whatever the day/evening calls for.
 
JMapleton said:
Ignore the price, look at the style. Dress like an adult, not a mountain climber.
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Ironically, before you posted that, I was thinking "gee, it'd be nice if he could ACT like an adult and stop judging people by what they wear."
 
I have 3 different things I wear. One is a leather bomber jacket. I have a brown suede car coat, then my favorite is a Grey wool long trench coat. EVERY time I wear the trench coat I get compliments. Last Saturday I even got one at my friends funeral. The leather jacket is the least winter like coat.
 
carrhart. got two of them. also have a few jackets that are for nicer occasions. also have a snowboarding jackets for when... you guessed it... i'm snowboarding.
 
lxskllr said:
In addition to this, by buying American you support your tribe. For all our pretense at civilization, we're still just as clannish and tribe like as our ancestors 1,000 years ago. That being the case, I'd rather support my people instead of your people. I have a widening circle of preferential buying that starts at the town level, and encompasses the world. Given a choice, I'll buy closest to me, and my people. If the locals make junk, I won't go so far to support that, but I seldom run into that issue.
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Decent explanation. Also, the closer to me it's being produced the more I'll know about how its produced. In the US at least I know the workers are less likely to be treated like slave labor, the factory is probably not producing ridiculous amounts of unnecessary pollutants, and that its less likely that the product is full of stuff that will kill me.
 
Cheap nylon shell parka, filled with down. Much warmer than the 300 fashion coats you guys wear.
:awe:

Still waiting on a sale from Scottevest for the winter coat I like. Every day they have a new item around 30% off. But I've been tracking them for a couple months and still no deals on the expensive shit.
 
In general it's my black M65 field jacket. If presentation is needed I have a Wilson's leather jacket, though the arms have no liner.
 
I live in Montreal and I usually wear a hoodie (has a doubled/furry interior) most of the winter. Unless it's FOCKING cold (colder than -20 + wind or worse), forget about a coat. Of course it depends what you're doing. I don't spend all that much time outside. This year I actually bought a pair of boots, last year I was fine with just shoes.

Depends on what you do and how susceptible you are to the cold. Most people I know get cold more easily than I. Only person I've met so far that's not like that is a dude from Romania. It's -15 and he has the window wide open and only wearing a t-shirt. I'm freezing and he seems perfectly fine.

Last year I bought a really warm winter jacket, wore it only once or twice. This year I bought a cheaper one from Zellers but even that one was too hot, only wore it a few times. Dammit... am I a freak of nature?
 
For in-between weather of rain and snow, get a synthetic insulated jacket (Thinsulate, Primaloft, etc) with waterproof exterior. 200 grams of any synthetic should get you through any winter this side of 0F or -30F with minor layers.

Such a jacket is more versatile for most situations and you won't deal with a down jacket matting in higher humidity weather (which loses insulation)
 
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