Whats your favorite level in Doom III

[CVSiN]

Originally posted by: obsidian

Originally posted by: CVSiN
the engine is crap... look at farcry and HL2... way better grafics engine.... both of those left me going WOW.. is that a picture or a game on the highest detail level...

Doom3 looked like a dark cartoon with lame repetitive textures.
the models were disapointing and looked fake...

And guess what, neither of these are engine dependent. You seriously have no clue where the distinction is made.

You could look at Quake3 and say wow, look at those lame textures, low poly models, and crappy looking levels. Then you go and realize games like ET, SoF2, and Call of Duty are made on the SAME engine. Sorry man, but a game is NOT the same thing as an engine.

Um you are a retard... D3 has its own Engine... made for D3 it has not been used in any other game yet... the first will be Quake4..... so GG pwning yourself...

yes I know what an engine is and yes I know it will be used in other games... that doesnt make it any better of an engine...it still isnt capable of realistic models shading or textures...

Gabe Newell that fat retard actually pwned Id with his companies new HL2 source engine... (yes it does look like crap in CS source though)

 

[rbV5]

I think all the levels are pretty much run and gun, so I don't have a real favorite. I do think the graphic and audio elements are very well done however, and I'm enjoying playing the game quite a bit SP.

As demanding as it is even on powerful rigs, its also the best looking game graphically I've ever seen at low resolutions like 640x480 (far and away the best)

 

[carldon]

Originally posted by: CVSiN

Originally posted by: obsidian

Originally posted by: CVSiN
the engine is crap... look at farcry and HL2... way better grafics engine.... both of those left me going WOW.. is that a picture or a game on the highest detail level...

Doom3 looked like a dark cartoon with lame repetitive textures.
the models were disapointing and looked fake...

And guess what, neither of these are engine dependent. You seriously have no clue where the distinction is made.

You could look at Quake3 and say wow, look at those lame textures, low poly models, and crappy looking levels. Then you go and realize games like ET, SoF2, and Call of Duty are made on the SAME engine. Sorry man, but a game is NOT the same thing as an engine.

Um you are a retard... D3 has its own Engine... made for D3 it has not been used in any other game yet... the first will be Quake4..... so GG pwning yourself...

yes I know what an engine is and yes I know it will be used in other games... that doesnt make it any better of an engine...it still isnt capable of realistic models shading or textures...

Gabe Newell that fat retard actually pwned Id with his companies new HL2 source engine... (yes it does look like crap in CS source though)

Read this (Link

It may help you understand something about what the Doom3 engine is capable of doing. I think nothing in the game truly shows what the engine is capable of doing. We still havent seen any outdoor levels. And if your criteria for evaluating an engine is how dark the game was, I think you have no idea of what you're talking about. Like Obsidan said, neither the models or the textures are engine dependent.

Source, Crytek and Doom3 are all next generation engines, each with their advantages and disadvatages. The Unreal3 engine is in the making. The only other engine I can think of now is the Havok (the one the new Serious Sam uses?). One of the strongest points of the D3 engine is the realistic shadows and the light physics used. It was built from the ground up and it is something no other engine is currently capable of doing. Quake 4 will show the capability of the D3 engine in outdoors and unless I'm mistaken, it'll be a treat to look at.

If you ARE a 34 year old, why dont you act like one?

CD.

 

[imported_obsidian]

Originally posted by: CVSiN
Um you are a retard... D3 has its own Engine... made for D3 it has not been used in any other game yet... the first will be Quake4..... so GG pwning yourself...

yes I know what an engine is and yes I know it will be used in other games... that doesnt make it any better of an engine...it still isnt capable of realistic models shading or textures...

Gabe Newell that fat retard actually pwned Id with his companies new HL2 source engine... (yes it does look like crap in CS source though)

And once again, Q3 has its own engine, made for Q3, and at the time it came out it wasn't in any other game. How is that ANY different from the Doom3 engine?

You also might want to go read up on someone using HL textures in a custom Doom3 map and guess what, they looked exactly the same, so stop spreading misinformation. Don't believe me? Read this and check out these screenshots:

http://www.gamingforums.org/forum/files/hl2d31.jpg
http://www.gamingforums.org/forum/files/hl2d32.jpg
http://www.gamingforums.org/forum/files/hl2d33.jpg
http://www.gamingforums.org/forum/files/hl2d34.jpg
http://www.gamingforums.org/forum/files/hl2d35.jpg
http://www.gamingforums.org/forum/files/hl2d36.jpg

Oh, and in case you couldn't tell, they were taken from in the Doom3 engine. Here's another link for you:

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/s...at.php?Cat=0&Number=744909&an=0&page=0

EDIT: looks like someone beat me to it

 

[sparkyclarky]

Originally posted by: obsidian

Originally posted by: CVSiN
Um you are a retard... D3 has its own Engine... made for D3 it has not been used in any other game yet... the first will be Quake4..... so GG pwning yourself...

yes I know what an engine is and yes I know it will be used in other games... that doesnt make it any better of an engine...it still isnt capable of realistic models shading or textures...

Gabe Newell that fat retard actually pwned Id with his companies new HL2 source engine... (yes it does look like crap in CS source though)

And once again, Q3 has its own engine, made for Q3, and at the time it came out it wasn't in any other game. How is that ANY different from the Doom3 engine?

You also might want to go read up on someone using HL textures in a custom Doom3 map and guess what, they looked exactly the same, so stop spreading misinformation. Don't believe me? Read this and check out these screenshots:

http://www.gamingforums.org/forum/files/hl2d31.jpg
http://www.gamingforums.org/forum/files/hl2d32.jpg
http://www.gamingforums.org/forum/files/hl2d33.jpg
http://www.gamingforums.org/forum/files/hl2d34.jpg
http://www.gamingforums.org/forum/files/hl2d35.jpg
http://www.gamingforums.org/forum/files/hl2d36.jpg

Oh, and in case you couldn't tell, they were taken from in the Doom3 engine. Here's another link for you:

http://forums.3drealms.com/ubbthreads/s...at.php?Cat=0&Number=744909&an=0&page=0

EDIT: looks like someone beat me to it

Yeah, you have to love these guys who take Doom III as some sort of personal insult. They mistakenly place their hatred of the game design and gameplay upon the engine, when the engine is widely regarded as being the most advanced FPS engine on the market (save perhaps some of the bling features in the Crytek engine such as SM3 and HDR). Sure, the textures in D3 might have been a bit crappy. Sure, you may not have liked the model design. Sure you may not have liked that the game was predominantly dark. That doesn't change the capabilities of the engine any less. The Doom III engine has a lighting model significantly more advanced than the source engine. It is capable of textures that look just as good as any other engine on the market. It maintains polygon counts significantly ahead of the competition. People bitch about the poor performance, but fail to realize that that very performance is an indicator of just how much power is in the engine. The proof is in the way it scales with GPU power. While source is heavily CPU dependent, the D3 engine is very GPU dependent, something which you'll see more and more engines moving towards in the future. Graphics cards have been advancing much faster than CPUs as far as raw speed and features go, and it simply makes more sense to aim an engine at them, leaving the CPU free for audio and physics. I am willing to put money down that the Doom III engine can result in significantly better looking games than the source engine. This is not all to say that the source engine is bad by any means. It certainly supports older hardware better. It seems to have a fairly advanced shading system. And the physics integration is done very well.

Just remember kids, don't mistake the engine with the game. If they ultimately were the same thing, we wouldn't have had any of the myriad of games based upon the Q2 and Q3 engines because the original product that shipped with those engines (Q2 the game and Q3 the game respectively) wasn't all that impressive.

 

[lavaheadache]

I truly am sorry that this post turned in to a crap fest. I give a big thank you to all you cock masters that decided this was a good place to take a dump. Forgive me for liking this game.

 

[sparkyclarky]

Originally posted by: lavaheadache
I truly am sorry that this post turned in to a crap fest. I give a big thank you to all you cock masters that decided this was a good place to take a dump. Forgive me for liking this game.

Sorry, I wasn't trying to crap on the thread. I was just responding to the haters that insist that the D3 engine is somehow inferior technically to the source engine (it's clearly not). As far as my favorite level, it'd be hard to say. I only finished about 1/2 of the game before I stopped and started playing rome: total war. Beating the monster spider boss was pretty cool though. The spiders in that game scared the hell out of me. Another highlight was the first encounter with a pinky. That was intense. Also, when the ghost essentially tore that woman's spine out. Pretty wild.

 

[lxskllr]

I don't remember my favorite level because it's been awhile since I've played, but I liked it well enough to preorder the expansion this past weekend. DIII played pretty well on the system I had at the time, P4 2.4, TI4200 medium settings with some items individually tweaked to high at 1280*1024.

HL2 kind of got on my nerves. I didn't like it nearly as well as the original. Bland graphics, crappy puzzles and lots of stutters thrown in for variety. UT2004 has better textures and stuff. They did do the characters and physics well though. HL2 didn't run as well as DIII even though I now have a P4 3.06, GF6800. I am running higher resolution though at 1600*1200. The real downside to HL2 is the POS Steam that it comes bundled with. That might have great deal to do with my negative reaction to the game.

I've just started playing FarCry. I like it well enough I guess. I think the tree colors are a little garish, crappy character acting and an irritating save system, but I'm having fun with it.

So far of those three I liked DIII the best, I had alot more fun than I had with the other two. What I'm really hoping ID does is produce another RTCW, that's my favorite single player FPS I've played so far.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: chrisbtx

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: m3rcury
I like that level where its all dark, and you have to use the flashlight, and then you kill the monster in front of you, and then you realize another one spawned behind you and now you have to turn around and shoot it.

=)


disclaimer: i haven't played the game. read enough complaints about it, and decided to save myself the 50$ and just play the demo when it came out. then the demo came out, and i had lost all interest.

i thought that was sarcasm . . . . ALL the levels looked and played the "same" . . . i only paid $37.00 for it the week it came out (with a retro-pricematch) and sold it the next week after i finished it for $25 and i STILL felt RIPPED off by this POS. 😛

the demo is sufficient doom iii for all but the most-hard core fans of diii - teenage boys (and those that 'never grew up) that loved the original . 😛
:roll:

hopefull the diii expansion pak will fall flat on its ass and then maybe id will forget games and just work on 'engines'.
:shocked:

With all due respect, this isn't a thread to complain about the game in... go back to the many threads that already exist for that. IIRC, you've actually complained about the game in almost every one of them. We know your stance, and that's fine, so please don't go and try to make this into another complaint thread.

Aside from that, my favorite level was the one where you first see the guy use the BFG through the glass (can't remember the name... been too long since I played it). That level seemed to have the best mix of elements for me, and I enjoyed it the most.

Please don't attemp to educate me "how" to post. 😛
:roll:

You also don't know how to read OR quote properly . . . i did say

the highpoint of this banal game is fighting the Guardian

. . . and then i ANSWERed m3rcury.
😛

:roll:
:thumbsdown:

and my posts continue as a warning to those who are tempted by this POS to d/l the demo BEFORE buying it. 😛


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Originally posted by: Regs
Bash all you want. Everybody knows this game was just for Doom fans like me to play their once favorite shooter with better graphics. I'm not saying it makes it a good game, but I hate the fact because of all the hype from the game it makes people go out of their way just to say something bad about it.

It was one of those retro games that made you go, "hmmm, wonder what it would look like with today's technology?". That's all it really was, and they executed it very well. Like the transformation of the Hell Level. Even though, only one level, it was likely one of my favorites. The Delta labs were also kind of cool. With hell taking over and all.

But other than that, I would agree with everybody else. There's only so much you can do with laboratories and power plants.

Then why did it take so long? the original didn't have the pda, did it. 😛
nonsense on the labs and power-plants . . . . Chronicles of Riddick takes a PRISON and makes it fun. . . . Painkiller/BOoH had a GREAT vision of Hell.

i only go out of my way to state what i think because you do 😉

 

[imported_obsidian]

Yea, don't tell apoppin how to post. He obviously has it down pat. You need to take a broad group of people (those who like doom3), and label them all, preferably as something with negative connotations (teenage boys). Then you need come back and wonder why people call you a troll.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: obsidian
Yea, don't tell apoppin how to post. He obviously has it down pat. You need to take a broad group of people (those who like doom3), and label them all, preferably as something with negative connotations (teenage boys). Then you need come back and wonder why people call you a troll.

You tell 'em how it's done . . . . 😛
:roll:

What's negative about "teenage boys"? All men were teenagers at one time. 😉

Clearly teenagers are the main audience Doom iii is aimed at - along with fans of the original, as i also mentioned. is that also "negative"? . 😛

You don't need to wonder what people think of you or your posts. 😉
:thumbsdown:

:roll:

 

[imported_obsidian]

Originally posted by: apoppin
What's negative about "teenage boys"? All men were teenagers at one time. 😉

Clearly teenagers are the main audience Doom iii is aimed at - along with fans of the original, as i also mentioned. is that also "negative"? . 😛

Connotation: The set of associations implied by a word in addition to its literal meaning.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: obsidian

Originally posted by: apoppin
What's negative about "teenage boys"? All men were teenagers at one time. 😉

Clearly teenagers are the main audience Doom iii is aimed at - along with fans of the original, as i also mentioned. is that also "negative"? . 😛

Connotation: The set of associations implied by a word in addition to its literal meaning.

obviously, you understood none of mine. . . . . i implied no disrespect to Doom iii fans (only disrespect to the game's developers and particularly to Carmack) . . . . it would be only in your own mind - unless you are somehow associated with developing doom iii's story or gameplay. 😉

why are you so offended that i really hate a certain game that you like?

 

[imported_obsidian]

Originally posted by: apoppin
obviously, you understood none of mine. . . . . i implied no disrespect to Doom iii fans (only disrespect to the game's developers and particularly to Carmack) . . . . it would be only in your own mind - unless you are somehow associated with developing doom iii's story or gameplay. 😉

why are you so offended that i really hate a certain game that you like?

Yea, I can't imagine why telling a bunch of people that they have the minds of teenagers would make them react negatively. If you seriously don't think there are any negative connotations associated when you tell someone they have the mind of a teenager, then your communication skills fall far below than what your post count would imply.

Go ahead, hate Doom3. That doesn't give you authority to claim that everyone who disagrees with you is immature.

Also, the thread was about your favorite level. Not to exclaim to all the people who may actually post something on topic that their intelligence level has yet to surpass that of a teenager.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: obsidian

Originally posted by: apoppin
obviously, you understood none of mine. . . . . i implied no disrespect to Doom iii fans (only disrespect to the game's developers and particularly to Carmack) . . . . it would be only in your own mind - unless you are somehow associated with developing doom iii's story or gameplay. 😉

why are you so offended that i really hate a certain game that you like?

Yea, I can't imagine why telling a bunch of people that they have the minds of teenagers would make them react negatively. If you seriously don't think there are any negative connotations associated when you tell someone they have the mind of a teenager, then your communication skills fall far below than what your post count would imply.

Go ahead, hate Doom3. That doesn't give you authority to claim that everyone who disagrees with you is immature.

Also, the thread was about your favorite level. Not to exclaim to all the people who may actually post something on topic that their intelligence level has yet to surpass that of a teenager.

please read what i wrote . . . again.

i said that Diii is aimed at [i.e. their hardcore fans] teenage boys and fans of the original. . . . nothing about anyone's "mind".

YOU are putting words in my mouth . . . . i am not making any claims about anyone's maturity (but i am starting to doubt yours).

i answered the thread's topic - fighting the Guardian was my "favourite level". i do not need anyone to tell me how to post and what to think. i post my opinion as such and if you are offended by my opinion that Diii is a POS - too bad - the problem is with you, not me.
:roll:

 

[Modeps]

Originally posted by: lavaheadache
I truly am sorry that this post turned in to a crap fest. I give a big thank you to all you cock masters that decided this was a good place to take a dump. Forgive me for liking this game.

Any Doom 3 post on here, no matter what the intentions are, will turn into a bash-fest.

I loved playing Doom 3. In the dark with my 5.1 jacked all the way up, people whispering things all the time... the positional audio is phenominal. As soon as I catch up on some other games, I'll be picking up the expansion pack.

My favorite level set had to be the Deltas... I cant pick one because they all introduce some great stuff. You're finally gaining on Betruger enough that you can almost shoot him... You learn about the soul cube. The levels start to really get 'overgrown' by hell love all the blood dragmarks everywhere. It really feels like the game is about to hit the climax, and of course the cool teleporter effects... A great set of 4 levels.

"Deliver us... from eeevil" - Woman's Voice, Monorail Skybridge

 

[imported_obsidian]

Originally posted by: apoppin
please read what i wrote . . . again.

i said that Diii is aimed at [i.e. their hardcore fans] teenage boys and fans of the original. . . . nothing about anyone's "mind".

YOU are putting words in my mouth . . . . i am not making any claims about anyone's maturity (but i am starting to doubt yours).

i answered the thread's topic - fighting the Guardian was my "favourite level". i do not need anyone to tell me how to post and what to think. i post my opinion as such and if you are offended by my opinion that Diii is a POS - too bad - the problem is with you, not me.
:roll:

Yea, me putting words in your mouth: "the demo is sufficient doom iii for all but the most-hard core fans of diii - teenage boys (and those that 'never grew up) that loved the original ."

No mention of aiming anything.

And like I said, I don't care if you don't like Doom3. I can see very well why people wouldn't. It isn't my favorite game by a long shot either.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: obsidian

Originally posted by: apoppin
please read what i wrote . . . again.

i said that Diii is aimed at [i.e. their hardcore fans] teenage boys and fans of the original. . . . nothing about anyone's "mind".

YOU are putting words in my mouth . . . . i am not making any claims about anyone's maturity (but i am starting to doubt yours).

i answered the thread's topic - fighting the Guardian was my "favourite level". i do not need anyone to tell me how to post and what to think. i post my opinion as such and if you are offended by my opinion that Diii is a POS - too bad - the problem is with you, not me.
:roll:

Yea, me putting words in your mouth: "the demo is sufficient doom iii for all but the most-hard core fans of diii - teenage boys (and those that 'never grew up) that loved the original ."

No mention of aiming anything.

And like I said, I don't care if you don't like Doom3. I can see very well why people wouldn't. It isn't my favorite game by a long shot either.

Yes - you. Clearly you don't 'get' what i am posting. if you also cannot accept my explanation, i have nothing further to say to you - not that i have to justify or apologize anything to you - anyway. 😉
:roll:

aloha

 

[imported_chrisbtx]

Good frickin' lord people. 90% of these posts have NOTHING to do with the theme of the thread. If you want to bash the game, do it somewhere else, this is not a thread designed for that. That is all I ask... I myself don't feel the game was all that great, but you know what? Instead of thread crapping or hijacking, I said what level was my favorite in the game. If you don't have a favorite level in the game, don't post here. I'm so very tired of all the threads that have become D3 hater threads....


EDIT: It IS possible to still have a favorite level in a game that you don't necessarily like.....

 

[jim1976]

I actually liked all the game and particularly all the part after Hell. I'm surely going for the expansion pack when it comes out.
And this is coming from the mouth of a FPS gamer that adores HL/HL2/CS
And the engine is brilliant.That's why the game was so much delayed IMO.

 

[BFG10K]

Hell, monorail, Delta labs (especially around the teleporters), dig site. Also I liked the waste dump levels with the green smoke pouring and the cave corridor that was full of demon spiders.

Actually I really liked the whole game.

 

[skace]

The sad thing is you CANNOT HAVE A FVCKING DISCUSSION ABOUT DOOM3 ON THIS GODDAMN FORUM WITHOUT REJECTS POSTING ON HOW "BANAL" THIS GAME WAS. Christ. I love all the fvcking misinformation that gets posted around this game. How the engine was terrible because the game was dark. How the level design was terrible. How monsters popped out like they've never fvcking heard of Doom1 or Doom2. Some of you people can be pretty retarded sometimes. It is barely worth arguing anymore because I'm tired of proving some of you asshats wrong.

Tell you what, go post some pictures of fc / hl2 / doom3 models. Until that day comes, don't fvcking mention them. Fact is, the doom3 models are far superior. The hl2 MODELS arn't that great. The SKINS ARE (aka facial textures, etc, thats called the SKIN).

Gives me a headache when you click on a thread called "favorite level in Doom3" and its the same 5 fvcking retards posting how much they hated Doom3 because Idsoftware stole their girlfriend.

And for the record, my favorite level was the start and the first teleportal. The start because it had that crazy imp that came out of the stairs and most of the chaos.

 

[lavaheadache]

Originally posted by: skace
The sad thing is you CANNOT HAVE A FVCKING DISCUSSION ABOUT DOOM3 ON THIS GODDAMN FORUM WITHOUT REJECTS POSTING ON HOW "BANAL" THIS GAME WAS. Christ. I love all the fvcking misinformation that gets posted around this game. How the engine was terrible because the game was dark. How the level design was terrible. How monsters popped out like they've never fvcking heard of Doom1 or Doom2. Some of you people can be pretty retarded sometimes. It is barely worth arguing anymore because I'm tired of proving some of you asshats wrong.

Tell you what, go post some pictures of fc / hl2 / doom3 models. Until that day comes, don't fvcking mention them. Fact is, the doom3 models are far superior. The hl2 MODELS arn't that great. The SKINS ARE (aka facial textures, etc, thats called the SKIN).

Gives me a headache when you click on a thread called "favorite level in Doom3" and its the same 5 fvcking retards posting how much they hated Doom3 because Idsoftware stole their girlfriend.

And for the record, my favorite level was the start and the first teleportal. The start because it had that crazy imp that came out of the stairs and most of the chaos.

My thought exactly
I think some people are only happy when they bitch!

 

[imported_obsidian]

I thought the first encounter with a pinky demon was great.

 

[CVSiN]

Originally posted by: skace
The sad thing is you CANNOT HAVE A FVCKING DISCUSSION ABOUT DOOM3 ON THIS GODDAMN FORUM WITHOUT REJECTS POSTING ON HOW "BANAL" THIS GAME WAS. Christ. I love all the fvcking misinformation that gets posted around this game. How the engine was terrible because the game was dark. How the level design was terrible. How monsters popped out like they've never fvcking heard of Doom1 or Doom2. Some of you people can be pretty retarded sometimes. It is barely worth arguing anymore because I'm tired of proving some of you asshats wrong.

Tell you what, go post some pictures of fc / hl2 / doom3 models. Until that day comes, don't fvcking mention them. Fact is, the doom3 models are far superior. The hl2 MODELS arn't that great. The SKINS ARE (aka facial textures, etc, thats called the SKIN).

Gives me a headache when you click on a thread called "favorite level in Doom3" and its the same 5 fvcking retards posting how much they hated Doom3 because Idsoftware stole their girlfriend.

And for the record, my favorite level was the start and the first teleportal. The start because it had that crazy imp that came out of the stairs and most of the chaos.

The cold truth is the game was shallow... wasnt in the same league as D1 when Carmack promised a groundbreaking FPS experience... it wasnt... it was the same unorginal pile of crap that every other shooter has been for the last few years...

Battlefield 1942 was the last truely different shooter and now everyone and thier mother is copying that as well..

cant people get thier own ideas anymore?

The Engine issue fine.... if you say that the models and textures can improve in future games using the technology fine... well wait and see...
but the srceens for Q4 look EXACTLY like D3..... same crappy models same crappy textures....

Why are you even harping on this fact anyway.. all the Q3 engine games looked exactly the same too and they ALL sucked....
Q3 was fun but it wasnt the grafics that made it fun... it was a fun Multiplayer game with great maps.. nowhere as good as Quake2 but hey that was pretty great game...

As long as people keep buyign these rehashed crappy games the developers will keep rewarming them.. till we demand better titles the world of gaming will stay the same...

Sorry but being as old as I am.. I have been there done that now...
the grafics keep getting better... but the games dont...

hell the Original PONG was more fun than D3... more imaginative too.... for its time..