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what's your favorite car **with pic plz**

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There's just a small difference. The Koenigsegg (definately a nice car) is a race car. The Skyline is targeting the same direction, but its a 2+2 seater opposed to the 2 seater Koenigsegg. The Koenigsegg is weighting only 1.2 tons opposed to the 1.6 of the Skyline. And the Skyline comes with 280 hp in standard trim 😉
In case they haven't reduced the weight of the Skyline (well, they definately needed some huge turbo chargers etc.) it has 1,33 kg per hp. The Koenigsegg has 1,5 kg per hp, so the Skyline is still having a (samller) advantage. But the power only starts at maybe 5500 rpm or so, before that its pretty weak. If you have seen the DVD where they did the 0 to 200 mph in 24 seconds, you would have heard that the first gear took a very long time, and as soon as it reached a certain rpm, the engine nearly exploded and the gears went up extremely fast. Remember that the Skyline uses a V6 2700 cc engine, whereas the Koenigsegg uses a V8 4700 cc engine, which will probably start its firework at lower rpms.
Then, car manufacturers tend to give optimal results, they could probably even make a 2CV go to 60 mph in 10 seconds :laughs And we don't know what tyres were used on the Skyline.

I'd say the Koenigsegg is the better race car, but its not as "practical" as the Skyline. And then its fascination is that they got 1200 hp out of a 280 hp engine with 2700 cc. That is insane.

But I don't really take the near 400 km/h, until now I thought the McLaren F1 is in the guiness book of records for the fastest production car.

And remember that a stock Suzuki Hayabusa does the Quarter Mile in 9.86 seconds, with only around 160 hp (175 claimed). 0 - 60 mph is even a bit faster than the Koenigsegg (3.15 secs).
 
Originally posted by: kadajawi
There's just a small difference. The Koenigsegg (definately a nice car) is a race car. The Skyline is targeting the same direction, but its a 2+2 seater opposed to the 2 seater Koenigsegg. The Koenigsegg is weighting only 1.2 tons opposed to the 1.6 of the Skyline. And the Skyline comes with 280 hp in standard trim 😉
In case they haven't reduced the weight of the Skyline (well, they definately needed some huge turbo chargers etc.) it has 1,33 kg per hp. The Koenigsegg has 1,5 kg per hp, so the Skyline is still having a (samller) advantage. But the power only starts at maybe 5500 rpm or so, before that its pretty weak. If you have seen the DVD where they did the 0 to 200 mph in 24 seconds, you would have heard that the first gear took a very long time, and as soon as it reached a certain rpm, the engine nearly exploded and the gears went up extremely fast. Remember that the Skyline uses a V6 2700 cc engine, whereas the Koenigsegg uses a V8 4700 cc engine, which will probably start its firework at lower rpms.
Then, car manufacturers tend to give optimal results, they could probably even make a 2CV go to 60 mph in 10 seconds :laughs And we don't know what tyres were used on the Skyline.

I'd say the Koenigsegg is the better race car, but its not as "practical" as the Skyline. And then its fascination is that they got 1200 hp out of a 280 hp engine with 2700 cc. That is insane.

But I don't really take the near 400 km/h, until now I thought the McLaren F1 is in the guiness book of records for the fastest production car.

And remember that a stock Suzuki Hayabusa does the Quarter Mile in 9.86 seconds, with only around 160 hp (175 claimed). 0 - 60 mph is even a bit faster than the Koenigsegg (3.15 secs).

You are aware that the Hayabusa is a sportbike, right?
:roll:
 
Originally posted by: kadajawi
There's just a small difference. The Koenigsegg (definately a nice car) is a race car. The Skyline is targeting the same direction, but its a 2+2 seater opposed to the 2 seater Koenigsegg. The Koenigsegg is weighting only 1.2 tons opposed to the 1.6 of the Skyline. And the Skyline comes with 280 hp in standard trim 😉
In case they haven't reduced the weight of the Skyline (well, they definately needed some huge turbo chargers etc.) it has 1,33 kg per hp. The Koenigsegg has 1,5 kg per hp, so the Skyline is still having a (samller) advantage. But the power only starts at maybe 5500 rpm or so, before that its pretty weak. If you have seen the DVD where they did the 0 to 200 mph in 24 seconds, you would have heard that the first gear took a very long time, and as soon as it reached a certain rpm, the engine nearly exploded and the gears went up extremely fast. Remember that the Skyline uses a V6 2700 cc engine, whereas the Koenigsegg uses a V8 4700 cc engine, which will probably start its firework at lower rpms.
Then, car manufacturers tend to give optimal results, they could probably even make a 2CV go to 60 mph in 10 seconds :laughs And we don't know what tyres were used on the Skyline.

I'd say the Koenigsegg is the better race car, but its not as "practical" as the Skyline. And then its fascination is that they got 1200 hp out of a 280 hp engine with 2700 cc. That is insane.

But I don't really take the near 400 km/h, until now I thought the McLaren F1 is in the guiness book of records for the fastest production car.

And remember that a stock Suzuki Hayabusa does the Quarter Mile in 9.86 seconds, with only around 160 hp (175 claimed). 0 - 60 mph is even a bit faster than the Koenigsegg (3.15 secs).

What they have done with the R33 is pretty impressive and nobody should say otherwise but they are two different kinds of cars. Different class.
The Habayusa is an unfair comparison because it's a motorcycle that weights at around 500 lbs about a 4th of the weight of a car and on top of that has a turbo charger. Different Class
 
Yes, thats what I wanted to say. The Skyline is an entirely different class than the Koenigsegg. Same as the Hayabusa. All three vehicles are in different classes.
The Hayabusa is less than a 4th of the Skyline. More a 7th.

Koenigsegg is IMHO same class as Ferrari F50, Enzo and McLaren F1. The Skyline is morethe sports sedan, like Audi S4, BMW M3. Of course, when properly tuned, it gets much farther, but its still a very heavy car. Digitec did a lot to the M3 and only got a few hp out of the M3. And in a comparison this Digitec M3 lost to the M3 CSL with a nearly stock M3 engine. Due to the tyres (I think the M3 CSL used road going race tyres, which cannot be used when raining. And I believe they are the same the Koenigsegg used) and the reduced weight. Anyway, what I wanted to say: It was a tough job increasing the M3s power to maybe near 400 hp. The Skyline was at 280 hp, increased to 1200!
 
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: FireStarOmega
Koenigsegg CCR

My favorite also. Wow, 400hp less than the Nissan ricer, and it does a faster quarter mile. 😛
Man I hate Skylines. And all japanese sports cars.

BTW, the Koenigsegg is brought to us by the Swedes, inside that beast of a car beats the heart of a Saab and the spirit of a Volvo.

Wow, the euro equivalent of a mullethead. 🙂
 
very nice pics Apex! i believe i went the last saturday or sunday of the event. it was still pretty packed. my other favorite car there was the Saleen S7. man that car is nice too!

Saleen S7
 
The Koeniggsegg CCR is insane, but not really the car you want in a daily driver situation. Top Gear did a test drive of the CC8S a while back, and Jeremy said it was the meanest car he had ever driven (heavy steering/clutch/shifter), but also the fastest. The CC8S was in line with the MF1 as the fastest production car in the world, so the CCR is probably a shoe-in for that title.

Although technically, the fastest production car ever was the Corvette Sledgehammer.
 
Original Shelby Cobra for the weekends.

2006 Z06 (427 aluminum small block?) for a daily driver.

Gimme some American Iron.
 
Originally posted by: Squisher
Original Shelby Cobra for the weekends.

2006 Z06 (427 aluminum small block?) for a daily driver.

Gimme some American Iron.
I can't believe I forgot about the classic Shelby Cobra. WTH was I thinking. That car is awesome! 😀


: ) Amanda
 
Originally posted by: Squisher
Original Shelby Cobra for the weekends.

2006 Z06 (427 aluminum small block?) for a daily driver.

Gimme some American Iron.

you would be nuts driving an original around... :Q
 
the car that starts when i crank the ignition.
the car that gets me to my destination without breaking down.
the car i dont have to worry about
is my favorite car.
 
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