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What's worse - being stuck in traffic, or waiting for a train?

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stuck in traffic for sure. because you're being taunted with the idea of forward motion, and yet nothing happens. at least with a train, you know you can't go anywhere until it arrives. take public transit if you can, assuming it is reasonable. it will save you lots of stress, even if it takes a little more time.
 
1:30 end to end. Only 30 minutes of that was the actual train ride.

The train itself is pleasant, I just need to work on reducing that other hour down to something more reasonable.
 
1:30 end to end. Only 30 minutes of that was the actual train ride.

The train itself is pleasant, I just need to work on reducing that other hour down to something more reasonable.


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Hide your kids, hide your wife, then rent closer to your work.

Not sure if serious. But someone I knew bought a cottage in the middle of nowhere then rented a place across the street from work.
 
the problem with waiting for a train is that afterwards, you're on a train
with other people who ride trains
 
1:30 end to end. Only 30 minutes of that was the actual train ride.

The train itself is pleasant, I just need to work on reducing that other hour down to something more reasonable.
Use this and skip the bus leg of your trip.

What could go wrong?
 
Nice, I wonder what the range is for those devices. Not sure if I can stand that long.
Seems like 12-25 miles is common. I wouldn't expect anyone would want to go further on one, since that's more than most could be bothered to go on a bicycle that has a seat. $350 for something you don't have to pedal and can put in a backpack isn't bad though.
 
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Traffic is worse. But depends on how bay that traffic is. If the drive was pretty consistent it isn't as bad as if it is completely unpredictable. In general if I had a PT option that didn't add a ton of time I would take it.
 
Are there any really good public transportation systems outside of the NYC subways? DC metro wasn't bad when I was there, but I avoided rush hour since I was a tourist.
 
Seems like 12-25 miles is common. I wouldn't expect anyone would want to go further on one, since that's more than most could be bothered to go on a bicycle that has a seat. $350 for something you don't have to pedal and can put in a backpack isn't bad though.
I'm trying to imagine if this will be prevalent in a cities/suburbs with a lot of bike lanes/few cars about 10 years. Prices going down and bike lanes getting crowded, during rush hour.
If I can go to Chicago downtown (25 miles) in less than 1 1/2 hour during rush hour at 19 mph why not? But it's a moot point for me since the Metra train station is 300 feet from my place and arrives to Chicago (Union Station) in approx. 55 minutes.
This will be useful for the walk to the other connecting buses when necessary. 🙂
 
Are there any really good public transportation systems outside of the NYC subways? DC metro wasn't bad when I was there, but I avoided rush hour since I was a tourist.

there are buses, I've just never used them 🙂

i've used the Staten Island Ferry, and the NY Waterway ferries but inside the city limits, just the subway.

Why do you want to avoid the subway?
 
there are buses, I've just never used them 🙂

i've used the Staten Island Ferry, and the NY Waterway ferries but inside the city limits, just the subway.

Why do you want to avoid the subway?

I'm just asking if the US has any good systems outside of New York. It's not a high priority for Americans, it seems. Saint Louis's rail system is a joke, even without the crime problem.
 
I'm just asking if the US has any good systems outside of New York. It's not a high priority for Americans, it seems. Saint Louis's rail system is a joke, even without the crime problem.

Ah I misunderstood your statement to mean you were looking for public transport options in NYC but outside of the subway system.

I don't think any city in America has anything as good in NYC, but I can't speak for the rest of the country. I've been to a whole bunch of major US metropolises for work - but I was there for only 3 days at a time and of which 1.5 was for work - so while I found the public transit to be good in many cases, it was way too limited experience. Some articles on the matter:

https://smartasset.com/mortgage/best-cities-for-public-transportation

https://www.wired.com/2014/10/americas-10-best-cities-commuting-public-transit/
 
As a tourist I've used Boston's and Chicago's and they both seemed fine. NYC's was great, very limited experience with DC's so not sure about it. Seattle's and Dallas's are both just very limited.
 
I thought the 90 minutes via train was terrible...until I spent 60 minutes in traffic today.


Decisions decisions...
 
Not in SoCal where freight trains have priority and people jump in front of amtraks.

Thats just what lxskllr wants you to believe

Traffic. With a train you can amuse yourself by pushing people on the tracks.

Are there any really good public transportation systems outside of the NYC subways? DC metro wasn't bad when I was there, but I avoided rush hour since I was a tourist.

Boston didn't seem bad but thats from a tourist's perspective
 
I thought the 90 minutes via train was terrible...until I spent 60 minutes in traffic today.


Decisions decisions...

Decisions indeed. You should get a Porsche. If it goes 0-60 in 5 seconds, it should do 0-10 even faster.
 
I lived in the LA area practically my whole life and never took any of the trains. I did take the bus a lot though. Busses suck.
 
I bike, so no traffic or delays for me. And yes, I do follow all traffic rules. Only problem is the weather.
 
Depends on the train.

I used to commute via train into Boston... 2nd stop on the inbound line, train was mostly empty upon embarking.

Upon arriving in North Station, it's a complete clusterfuck of humanity, and having to board an Orange Line subway train to get myself to Downtown Crossing, you truly get to know what it feels like to be a canned sardine.

By comparison, commuting out to places like North Andover or Tewksbury by car... while equally as time consuming and frustrating, at least you don't have some asshole crammed up next to you who smells bad, or passive-aggressively elbows you while banging away on their iPhone. Or creepy ass women jamming their tits up against you (yes, creepy women on public transportation are a thing.)
 
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