whats with this new trend of huge rims and a tiny bit of rubber

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Aharami

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momeNt

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New trend? Haha.

Handling and ride quality are not #1 and #2 on the everybody's list for how they customize their vehicle.
 

QueBert

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Neighbor has a brother with a stupid donk, he put a butt load of money into this snazzy air suspension. I'll say this, the 1 time I was in it the ride was pretty freaking smooth, he can even turn like a normal car, which makes me go WTF. It looks retarded as hell but he loves it, so hay more power to him. If he's not BS'ing me, he paid about what his mom paid for her Avalon for his suspension. It sounds unbelievable but I know everything else on the car was stupidly expensive, so he might not be exaggerating. I asked him how much his custom fabricated rims cost, he said "more than you make in a year" and I don't think he was being humorous :(

The break down is this:

A DONK is a 1971-1976 Caprice or Impala. It doesn't matter if it has 28" rims or 15" rims or if it is completely STOCK. That is a donk

A BOX is a 1977-1990 Caprice or Impala

A BUBBLE is a 1991-1996 Caprice or Impala


Mind blowing how much money people spend on shit like this.



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I hope this belongs to a female, but shit I don't even see why a female would want to drive that lol.



This one takes the cake though

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Somebody please tell me I'm not tripping, is that a rear from an old Cutlass spliced with a Rolls front end?
 
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Murloc

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I'm pretty sure it's not a new trend, I saw this stuff years ago, only in pics though.
In my country I think it's illegal to do those sorts of mods because they make the car dangerous or something, it would make sense since I've never seen cars like that around here. If you brought in a car like that to the tester to get final approval, they would probably tell you to bug off.
 

CraigRT

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I hate the camber fad too...
Why can't cars just be cleanly lowered with stock or slightly positive camber and rims that actually work with the look of the car..

Whatever... it's not my car......
 

slag

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I think that's called stretching the tire. Looks retarded. I've been mocked several times on vwvortex forums for saying so about this look

You and me both. When I had my jetta, people would say I needed to lower it, slam it, give it a "stance" yo. Told them to screw off as its a daily driver and that slammed look is laughable at best. I had H & R lowering springs on it already and it was perfect. Tires were straight up and down, I could drive the car most anywhere, etc.
 

tonyfreak215

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I prefer some meat on my rims.

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I hate the camber fad too...
Why can't cars just be cleanly lowered with stock or slightly positive camber and rims that actually work with the look of the car..

Whatever... it's not my car......

Positive camber is bad. You want some negative camber to help with turning.
 

Arkaign

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I prefer some meat on my rims.

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Positive camber is bad. You want some negative camber to help with turning.

That looks flawless! Props!

Yes on the negative camber, but it should be at most barely perceptible to the naked eye :)

If you really want to know what works, all you have to do is look at what works best on circuit race setups, such as Spec Miata.

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Notice no ludicrously altered camber, no rubber band 20"s stuffed on it, no rolled fenders, and why is this? Because all of that hurts performance (other than minor camber tweaks as you noted).

I cite it a lot, but a while back an Australian racing outfit tested wheels from 15"-20" with great tires on a race track, and the 17" size ended up being the best, with 20" being worse than 15". This is pretty similar to how the C6R whoops the ZR1 on a racetrack (MASSIVELY), despite having a lot less power, with 17" racing tires and better brakes, rather than rubber-band tires and street brakes.
 

Throckmorton

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Not any worse than hotrods. Whether you jack it up and put giant wheels on it, or chop the roof, either way you're destroying a car. I think the giant wheel cars look ugly. But whether you have a problem with destroying an old car is a value judgement that you'd have to apply equally to all non-restoration cars.
 

tonyfreak215

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That looks flawless! Props!

Yes on the negative camber, but it should be at most barely perceptible to the naked eye :)

If you really want to know what works, all you have to do is look at what works best on circuit race setups, such as Spec Miata.


Notice no ludicrously altered camber, no rubber band 20"s stuffed on it, no rolled fenders, and why is this? Because all of that hurts performance (other than minor camber tweaks as you noted).

I cite it a lot, but a while back an Australian racing outfit tested wheels from 15"-20" with great tires on a race track, and the 17" size ended up being the best, with 20" being worse than 15". This is pretty similar to how the C6R whoops the ZR1 on a racetrack (MASSIVELY), despite having a lot less power, with 17" racing tires and better brakes, rather than rubber-band tires and street brakes.

Those weren't pics of my car. Just some images I found online for ease of use. I probably should have used some from my car, so here they are. :p

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Funny that you brought up Spec Miata as I actually race one. We don't use that much camber. But we try to get around -2.5-3 degrees; it's definitely visible. Just not on mine, as my car needs an alignment.

We do roll our fenders though. :p
 

Arkaign

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Very nice. Perhaps I overstated the 'visible' comment. I really mean that someone just walking by your car that wasn't educated wouldn't even notice the camber. It's not like the guys you see with the 20"s tucked into a civic with tilted wheels, haha.
 

Arkaign

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LoL :
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I love how it says 'Danger' on the back, that's fully accurate of how it would be trying to drive that thing quickly.
 

child of wonder

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Women need to be more selective about who they breed with. Retards that do this kind of stuff to their cars shouldn't have their genes passed on.
 

tonyfreak215

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Very nice. Perhaps I overstated the 'visible' comment. I really mean that someone just walking by your car that wasn't educated wouldn't even notice the camber. It's not like the guys you see with the 20"s tucked into a civic with tilted wheels, haha.

Healthy camber is a great way to weed out poser track cars/drivers.
 

FuzzyDunlop

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whoa. This is a new trend??

Agreed it ruins many fine vehicles. But it does help with one thing... you can more easily spot douchebags and idiots.


With ONE exception. Cepak, that hummer with Wagon Wheels is Full of Win!
 
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twinrider1

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At least they (or the people they're paying) are doing real work with their hands and not playing video games all day. I can appreciate it on that level, even though I think it looks silly. The wagon wheels are cool though.
On a related (half)joking note, I think it's all a conspiracy by the tire companies to sell boatloads of tires. First with the drifting and now with the crazy camber.