What's with the libidos of ghetto guys?

[Nerva]

bed-stuy, what a sh1t hole. i used to work near crown heights. the entire area sucks.

UES for the win. no one would hoot at her there because it's already packed with chicks like her.

 

[loup garou]

blackinches

 

[RadiclDreamer]

Originally posted by: Gilligansdingy
Dude shes not hot. Sorry. I am pretty sure I could put on a dress and get the same reaction from those guys.

I wouldnt say smokin, but shes attractive, nothing wrong with her

 

[Throckmorton]

Freedomsbeat, you are making an assumption about the libidos of black guys from the ghetto when that has nothing to do with anything.

The 1800s called. They want their biological racism back.

Screw you and your "not to sound like a racist" BS. Have you ever heard of the "myth of the black rapist"? The idea that blacks have a stronger libido was part of the belief system that allowed slavery

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: Gilligansdingy
Dude shes not hot. Sorry. I am pretty sure I could put on a dress and get the same reaction from those guys.

I disagree.

as do I. she is a very pretty woman.

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: Throckmorton
Freedomsbeat, you are making an assumption about the libidos of black guys from the ghetto when that has nothing to do with anything.

The 1800s called. They want their biological racism back.

Screw you and your "not to sound like a racist" BS. Have you ever heard of the "myth of the black rapist"? The idea that blacks have a stronger libido was part of the belief system that allowed slavery

Take a white girl into a dance club in an upscale "white" neighborhood and then take her to a club in a very inner city part of town. Dollars to donuts she gets swarmed faster in the 2nd one.

 

[djheater]

Originally posted by: Throckmorton
Freedomsbeat, you are making an assumption about the libidos of black guys from the ghetto when that has nothing to do with anything.

The 1800s called. They want their biological racism back.

Screw you and your "not to sound like a racist" BS. Have you ever heard of the "myth of the black rapist"? The idea that blacks have a stronger libido was part of the belief system that allowed slavery

I came in to make basically the same statement, but seeing it written it ocured to me to respond that this racist paradigm is also responsible for the groups behavior. We can chastise the OP for his behavior but let's not forget that the men he's talking about share the same beliefs and worse are acting them out.

Pitiable really, on both sides. Still, that doesn't help with the OP's situation, there is no solution really. Work to change societal racist beliefs and behaviors? Call a cab for the lady? That's about it really.

 

[Throckmorton]

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: Throckmorton
Freedomsbeat, you are making an assumption about the libidos of black guys from the ghetto when that has nothing to do with anything.

The 1800s called. They want their biological racism back.

Screw you and your "not to sound like a racist" BS. Have you ever heard of the "myth of the black rapist"? The idea that blacks have a stronger libido was part of the belief system that allowed slavery

Take a white girl into a dance club in an upscale "white" neighborhood and then take her to a club in a very inner city part of town. Dollars to donuts she gets swarmed faster in the 2nd one.

It's not because black people have stronger libidos.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: Throckmorton

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: Throckmorton
Freedomsbeat, you are making an assumption about the libidos of black guys from the ghetto when that has nothing to do with anything.

The 1800s called. They want their biological racism back.

Screw you and your "not to sound like a racist" BS. Have you ever heard of the "myth of the black rapist"? The idea that blacks have a stronger libido was part of the belief system that allowed slavery

Take a white girl into a dance club in an upscale "white" neighborhood and then take her to a club in a very inner city part of town. Dollars to donuts she gets swarmed faster in the 2nd one.

It's not because black people have stronger libidos.

They just aren't afraid at all to talk to women. This is true of black dudes everywhere I've been, not just the inner city guys.

 

[TheFamilyMan]

It's even more sad that someone can't comment on the actions and attitudes of a group of people without being called a 'racist'. The OP made the observation, noted it down on the forums and is called a racist by more than a few posters. Why is he racist? Is he racist because the ignorant people of that neighborhood choose to emulate their heroes of the hip-hop/rap world rather than emulating real heroes or being men rather than animals?

It's disheartening whatever race it is. You see it in the south where you can take demographic information from lower-income parts of a city (whether that be the 'ghetto', the trailer park, et al) and the behaviour is basically the same as what the OP has indicated. Many fatherless homes, many homes where the mother has 4, 5 or more children and the leader of the family is the grandmother or other matriarchal (sp?) figure trying to keep things together but failing miserably.

The OP shouldn't be labeled a racist because he chose to point out the behaviour of the blacks that he comes in contact with on a daily basis. It's not racism from him that is generating the behaviour...it's their upbringing, culture and conscious choices they are making in their lives that is generating the feelings of the OP.

 

[slackerinabox]

Originally posted by: TheFamilyMan
It's even more sad that someone can't comment on the actions and attitudes of a group of people without being called a 'racist'. The OP made the observation, noted it down on the forums and is called a racist by more than a few posters. Why is he racist? Is he racist because the ignorant people of that neighborhood choose to emulate their heroes of the hip-hop/rap world rather than emulating real heroes or being men rather than animals?

It's disheartening whatever race it is. You see it in the south where you can take demographic information from lower-income parts of a city (whether that be the 'ghetto', the trailer park, et al) and the behaviour is basically the same as what the OP has indicated. Many fatherless homes, many homes where the mother has 4, 5 or more children and the leader of the family is the grandmother or other matriarchal (sp?) figure trying to keep things together but failing miserably.

The OP shouldn't be labeled a racist because he chose to point out the behaviour of the blacks that he comes in contact with on a daily basis. It's not racism from him that is generating the behaviour...it's their upbringing, culture and conscious choices they are making in their lives that is generating the feelings of the OP.

Thank you! I do not feel that I'm racist but knew I would be called such. Hell, I'm south indian - unlike the Aryans (European roots) from the north, my ancestors are black. I'm black!

Yes, I posted that while angry - we had a nice day yesterday and I wanted a bite to eat on the way to her place from the subway. We stopped at a pizza joint and, while we waited, a dozen guys filed in saying comments. I held her hand, made obvious visual signs ("she's taken!") and she looked very uncomfortable during the whole thing but we both kept our cool... If any guy crossed the line I knew I would have had to say something and.. Yes.. Gotten my ass kicked...What time was this? 8:30 PM!

Sorry if I offended anyone, but I thought my use of the word "ghetto guys" made it clear. I've seen white "gangsta" guys emulate this behavior as well, it's not limited based on race. Sorrry for simplifying my post. But, here in nyc, the black ghettos is what I notice.

 

[Throckmorton]

Originally posted by: TheFamilyMan
It's even more sad that someone can't comment on the actions and attitudes of a group of people without being called a 'racist'. The OP made the observation, noted it down on the forums and is called a racist by more than a few posters. Why is he racist? Is he racist because the ignorant people of that neighborhood choose to emulate their heroes of the hip-hop/rap world rather than emulating real heroes or being men rather than animals?

It's disheartening whatever race it is. You see it in the south where you can take demographic information from lower-income parts of a city (whether that be the 'ghetto', the trailer park, et al) and the behaviour is basically the same as what the OP has indicated. Many fatherless homes, many homes where the mother has 4, 5 or more children and the leader of the family is the grandmother or other matriarchal (sp?) figure trying to keep things together but failing miserably.

The OP shouldn't be labeled a racist because he chose to point out the behaviour of the blacks that he comes in contact with on a daily basis. It's not racism from him that is generating the behaviour...it's their upbringing, culture and conscious choices they are making in their lives that is generating the feelings of the OP.

Using the actions of a few people to extrapolate the libido of a, even if you're targeting a specific social class, is racist.

Putting "ghetto" with black doesn't make otherwise racist statements safe, contrary to popular belief

 

[Alistar7]

When did racism and prejudice come to mean the same thing? Not calling out the OP, but I find it ironic that those using the "r" word clearly are uniformed of the difference between the two. Ignorance is the root of both, given their responses I am willing to bet they carry a bit of prejudice of their own.

Nobody is universally attractive so I wouldn't waste my time worrying about the negative comments. Personally, I'd nail her lol....

 

[slackerinabox]

Originally posted by: Throckmorton

Originally posted by: TheFamilyMan
It's even more sad that someone can't comment on the actions and attitudes of a group of people without being called a 'racist'. The OP made the observation, noted it down on the forums and is called a racist by more than a few posters. Why is he racist? Is he racist because the ignorant people of that neighborhood choose to emulate their heroes of the hip-hop/rap world rather than emulating real heroes or being men rather than animals?

It's disheartening whatever race it is. You see it in the south where you can take demographic information from lower-income parts of a city (whether that be the 'ghetto', the trailer park, et al) and the behaviour is basically the same as what the OP has indicated. Many fatherless homes, many homes where the mother has 4, 5 or more children and the leader of the family is the grandmother or other matriarchal (sp?) figure trying to keep things together but failing miserably.

The OP shouldn't be labeled a racist because he chose to point out the behaviour of the blacks that he comes in contact with on a daily basis. It's not racism from him that is generating the behaviour...it's their upbringing, culture and conscious choices they are making in their lives that is generating the feelings of the OP.

Using the actions of a few people to extrapolate the libido of a, even if you're targeting a specific social class, is racist.

Putting "ghetto" with black doesn't make otherwise racist statements safe, contrary to popular belief

I disagree with you, but you clearly know everything there is to know about race/class/culture issues.

I believe your mentality is why these problems continue. I would be so pleased if someone in the black community said "this behavior is unacceptable. Let's address the root cause of it." Instead, people who make obvious observations are called racist. Actually, Al Sharpton earned my respect when he spoke out against misogyny and homophobia in rap music - THAT RACIST!

 

[BeauJangles]

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212

Originally posted by: Throckmorton

Originally posted by: TheFamilyMan
It's even more sad that someone can't comment on the actions and attitudes of a group of people without being called a 'racist'. The OP made the observation, noted it down on the forums and is called a racist by more than a few posters. Why is he racist? Is he racist because the ignorant people of that neighborhood choose to emulate their heroes of the hip-hop/rap world rather than emulating real heroes or being men rather than animals?

It's disheartening whatever race it is. You see it in the south where you can take demographic information from lower-income parts of a city (whether that be the 'ghetto', the trailer park, et al) and the behaviour is basically the same as what the OP has indicated. Many fatherless homes, many homes where the mother has 4, 5 or more children and the leader of the family is the grandmother or other matriarchal (sp?) figure trying to keep things together but failing miserably.

The OP shouldn't be labeled a racist because he chose to point out the behaviour of the blacks that he comes in contact with on a daily basis. It's not racism from him that is generating the behaviour...it's their upbringing, culture and conscious choices they are making in their lives that is generating the feelings of the OP.

Using the actions of a few people to extrapolate the libido of a, even if you're targeting a specific social class, is racist.

Putting "ghetto" with black doesn't make otherwise racist statements safe, contrary to popular belief

I disagree with you, but you clearly know everything this is to know about race/class/culture issues.

I believe your mentality is why these problems continue. I would be so pleased if someone in the black community said "this behavior is unacceptable. Let's address the root cause of it." Instead, people who make obvious observations are called racist. Actually, Al Sharpton earned my respect when he spoke out against misogyny and homophobia in rap music - THAT RACIST!

He was talking about rap music, not black people. While he certainly was generalizing to some extent, making blanket statements about a type of music is much more socially acceptable than making generalizations about an group of people.

 

[Hammerhead]

"Damn that rap music!"

 

[slackerinabox]

Originally posted by: BlinderBomber

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212

Originally posted by: Throckmorton

Originally posted by: TheFamilyMan
It's even more sad that someone can't comment on the actions and attitudes of a group of people without being called a 'racist'. The OP made the observation, noted it down on the forums and is called a racist by more than a few posters. Why is he racist? Is he racist because the ignorant people of that neighborhood choose to emulate their heroes of the hip-hop/rap world rather than emulating real heroes or being men rather than animals?

It's disheartening whatever race it is. You see it in the south where you can take demographic information from lower-income parts of a city (whether that be the 'ghetto', the trailer park, et al) and the behaviour is basically the same as what the OP has indicated. Many fatherless homes, many homes where the mother has 4, 5 or more children and the leader of the family is the grandmother or other matriarchal (sp?) figure trying to keep things together but failing miserably.

The OP shouldn't be labeled a racist because he chose to point out the behaviour of the blacks that he comes in contact with on a daily basis. It's not racism from him that is generating the behaviour...it's their upbringing, culture and conscious choices they are making in their lives that is generating the feelings of the OP.

Using the actions of a few people to extrapolate the libido of a, even if you're targeting a specific social class, is racist.

Putting "ghetto" with black doesn't make otherwise racist statements safe, contrary to popular belief

I disagree with you, but you clearly know everything this is to know about race/class/culture issues.

I believe your mentality is why these problems continue. I would be so pleased if someone in the black community said "this behavior is unacceptable. Let's address the root cause of it." Instead, people who make obvious observations are called racist. Actually, Al Sharpton earned my respect when he spoke out against misogyny and homophobia in rap music - THAT RACIST!

He was talking about rap music, not black people. While he certainly was generalizing to some extent, making blanket statements about a type of music is much more socially acceptable than making generalizations about an group of people.

Would I be scared if my girlfriend lived in jamaica estates, the local upper-middle class black enclave? Not at all. My blanket statement was about poor black people. Is it really a blanket statement though? Every "hood" I've visited (Harlem, Bed Stuy, I used to live in Bushwick, East New York, etc. etc.) has had this problem. I would be the guy who'd walk my gay roommate's friends to the train station because they were all scared, they were not scared of stereotypes, they were scared of the guys hanging out in front of a Bodega ALL DAY.

 

[bigrash]

Originally posted by: daveymark

When they say "Hey girl, I want to get all up in that" they mean "Ma'am, I would enjoy the company of your person with myself if at all possible. Post haste. If not, then I shall certainly be on my way, to enjoy the good company and fellowship of my friends. Godspeed."

hahaha

 

[Mxylplyx]

Originally posted by: BlinderBomber

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212

Originally posted by: Throckmorton

Originally posted by: TheFamilyMan
It's even more sad that someone can't comment on the actions and attitudes of a group of people without being called a 'racist'. The OP made the observation, noted it down on the forums and is called a racist by more than a few posters. Why is he racist? Is he racist because the ignorant people of that neighborhood choose to emulate their heroes of the hip-hop/rap world rather than emulating real heroes or being men rather than animals?

It's disheartening whatever race it is. You see it in the south where you can take demographic information from lower-income parts of a city (whether that be the 'ghetto', the trailer park, et al) and the behaviour is basically the same as what the OP has indicated. Many fatherless homes, many homes where the mother has 4, 5 or more children and the leader of the family is the grandmother or other matriarchal (sp?) figure trying to keep things together but failing miserably.

The OP shouldn't be labeled a racist because he chose to point out the behaviour of the blacks that he comes in contact with on a daily basis. It's not racism from him that is generating the behaviour...it's their upbringing, culture and conscious choices they are making in their lives that is generating the feelings of the OP.

Using the actions of a few people to extrapolate the libido of a, even if you're targeting a specific social class, is racist.

Putting "ghetto" with black doesn't make otherwise racist statements safe, contrary to popular belief

I disagree with you, but you clearly know everything this is to know about race/class/culture issues.

I believe your mentality is why these problems continue. I would be so pleased if someone in the black community said "this behavior is unacceptable. Let's address the root cause of it." Instead, people who make obvious observations are called racist. Actually, Al Sharpton earned my respect when he spoke out against misogyny and homophobia in rap music - THAT RACIST!

He was talking about rap music, not black people. While he certainly was generalizing to some extent, making blanket statements about a type of music is much more socially acceptable than making generalizations about an group of people.

I think it's racist how they only put black people on the boxes for hair relaxers. It's like they are insinuating that only black people have nappy hair. The product is for nappy haired people, not black people.

 

[slackerinabox]

Originally posted by: Phokus
Hey Freedomsbeat, weren't you the guy who posted a thread last year about how 'ugly' you were and how you couldn't get a girlfriend or something? Looking good bro

P.S. hoot and holler atcha girl! :laugh: (she's cute)

People always bring up that thread, but I don't remember posting it. Maybe I was drunk? I do post about my frustrating women situation, all the time. But I guess I just didn't find the right girl before and dated too much - things have been pretty straight forward and drama free with this girl, my only concern is about her safety in her neighborhood. Either way, thanks!

 

[bigrash]

She lives in Bed-Stuy. What the fvck do you expect? It's like someone going to Holiday Inn and complaining that they don't service there like the Four Seasons.

And sorry to say this (maybe cause I used to have a lot of ghetto friends growing up) but I know a lot of you nerds will disagree. There's a reason why ghetto guys holler at nice looking chicks (whether it's a white chick or black chick it doesn't matter) when they see one. Believe it or not, some hot looking chicks are into that. I've known a lot of chicks who've slept with guys that you'd never think that they'd sleep with. heck, I work in HR and I've met tons of older hot women who live in the richest parts of Manhattan who've slept with young ghetto guys from the projects. The reason why guys holler at these chicks is because of that slim chance of something happening. Of course, I'm not saying that that makes it ok.

 

[TheFamilyMan]

Originally posted by: BlinderBomber

He was talking about rap music, not black people. While he certainly was generalizing to some extent, making blanket statements about a type of music is much more socially acceptable than making generalizations about an group of people.

Um, Blinder, he was talking about a group of people...black people and the effect rap music and culture has had on the growth of african-americans as a race of people. Don't be so naieve as to say he wasn't targeting black men and women specifically because he was. Now how he may have wrapped his comments up is one thing but the message was quite clear.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Um, these guys would hoot and holler for any doable chick regardless if she was white.

 

[Darkstar757]

Originally posted by: Gilligansdingy
Not sure if your trying to brag that you have a girlfriend or a white girlfriend? I bet your right, black inner-city guys have nothing better to do then bother your white girlfriend. Lets hope she decides to take one of them up on thier offer and dumps your racist ass.

I second that!

 

[BeauJangles]

Originally posted by: TheFamilyMan

Originally posted by: BlinderBomber

He was talking about rap music, not black people. While he certainly was generalizing to some extent, making blanket statements about a type of music is much more socially acceptable than making generalizations about an group of people.

Um, Blinder, he was talking about a group of people...black people and the effect rap music and culture has had on the growth of african-americans as a race of people. Don't be so naieve as to say he wasn't targeting black men and women specifically because he was. Now how he may have wrapped his comments up is one thing but the message was quite clear.

I'm just saying, nobody is going to call Sharpton a racist for denouncing rap music, because it has nothing to do with race. Rappers, regardless of race, generally objectify women. Granted, lots of them are black, but the white ones do the same thing.

Neither does the issue presented in this thread. First of all, part of it is cultural. Go to Italy and you'll find guys who will cat-call girls as they walk down the street. They'll even come up and hit on them, despite the fact her boyfriend might be walking right next to her. Go to Latin America, you'll see the same thing - guys will honk at attractive women. They'll shout things at them.

The other half is socio-economic. Often poorer immigrants are banded together because of where they will. Hence, they exist in their own enclave. They take their social cues from one another and it takes much longer for them to be acculturated to what we consider "American" norms.

Hence, I take issue with making the issue the OP raises about race.