What's with all the updates for TF2?

tigersty1e

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First off, this is a rant. If you respond negatively to rants stop here.

What's with all these "updates" for TF2? Just make the game right, update it and stop. If you do it right, you don't need these updates...


alright, that's all.
 

Capitalizt

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No game is perfect, but with regular updates and improvements, they can certainly approach it. I have no problem with the updates, especially since they only take 5-10 seconds.
 

Skunkwourk

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Originally posted by: Capitalizt
No game is perfect, but with regular updates and improvements, they can certainly approach it. I have no problem with the updates, especially since they only take 5-10 seconds.

ditto, its nice they're addressing bugs and more importantly "exploits" as fast as they are.
 

BlueAcolyte

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Mmm... More achievements. Anyway, what's wrong with updates? Some games I play are practically begging for an update.
 

vexingv

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i'm glad that there's steam as these updates are streamlined and do not require any user interaction. could you imagine having to download these patches each time yourself!?
 

Dman877

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It would be nice if they added achievements for all the classes at once so we didn't get this flavor of the month (fotm for you mmp players :)) crap going on. However, I like the improvements to medics. I think they did a good job adding useful stuff that doesn't mess up the game balance. When achievements hit for other classes though, I don't expect to see more than 1 or 2 medics per server like there used to be.
 

videogames101

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OMG updating a game! Fixing bugs and exploits! Fixing them QUICKLY! The horror!

rofl...

:roll:
 

mb

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Originally posted by: tigersty1e
First off, this is a rant. If you respond negatively to rants stop here.

What's with all these "updates" for TF2? Just make the game right, update it and stop. If you do it right, you don't need these updates...


alright, that's all.

Updates to Team Fortress 2 have been released. The updates will be applied automatically when your Steam client is restarted. The specific changes include:

Team Fortress 2


Fixed clients getting the "Reliable snapshot overflow" error

Fixed another unlimited UberCharge exploit

Fixed elevators not working in user maps

Networking optimizations

Yeah man, fuck that shit. Let me have my Reliable snapshot overflow error. Let people have ulimited ubercharges. Don't fix elevators for people! Let them figure it out on their own! And FFS do NOT make any networking optimizations!!! FUCK YOU STEAM!
 

Born2bwire

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Fixed exploit where players could drop weapons onto the ground for other players to pickup.

That one actually sounds kinda cool. Scout with a flame thrower? :)
 

Lonyo

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Originally posted by: mb
Originally posted by: tigersty1e
First off, this is a rant. If you respond negatively to rants stop here.

What's with all these "updates" for TF2? Just make the game right, update it and stop. If you do it right, you don't need these updates...


alright, that's all.

Updates to Team Fortress 2 have been released. The updates will be applied automatically when your Steam client is restarted. The specific changes include:

Team Fortress 2


Fixed clients getting the "Reliable snapshot overflow" error

Fixed another unlimited UberCharge exploit

Fixed elevators not working in user maps

Networking optimizations

Yeah man, fuck that shit. Let me have my Reliable snapshot overflow error. Let people have ulimited ubercharges. Don't fix elevators for people! Let them figure it out on their own! And FFS do NOT make any networking optimizations!!! FUCK YOU STEAM!

I guess you missed the "make the game right" line in the OP.
 

skace

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Originally posted by: Lonyo
I guess you missed the "make the game right" line in the OP.

I believe some of the exploits came into existence from adding content to the game. The medic update to be specific. They thus had to patch for it. It would be nice to say "well the medic update should have been flawless from the getgo" but that is highly unrealistic.

I can't wait until they add more achievements, the ones they did for medic were extremely well thought out and if you don't exploit through them are pretty damn good challenges.
 

mb

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Originally posted by: Lonyo
Originally posted by: mb
Originally posted by: tigersty1e
First off, this is a rant. If you respond negatively to rants stop here.

What's with all these "updates" for TF2? Just make the game right, update it and stop. If you do it right, you don't need these updates...


alright, that's all.

Updates to Team Fortress 2 have been released. The updates will be applied automatically when your Steam client is restarted. The specific changes include:

Team Fortress 2


Fixed clients getting the "Reliable snapshot overflow" error

Fixed another unlimited UberCharge exploit

Fixed elevators not working in user maps

Networking optimizations

Yeah man, fuck that shit. Let me have my Reliable snapshot overflow error. Let people have ulimited ubercharges. Don't fix elevators for people! Let them figure it out on their own! And FFS do NOT make any networking optimizations!!! FUCK YOU STEAM!

I guess you missed the "make the game right" line in the OP.

Yeah because developing a perfectly bug free online multiplayer game is 100% possible. I mean, no one will ever try to exploit the game if Valve simply asked them kindly not to. And come on, we all know we could do a better job of making TF2 than Valve ever could, so there's no excuse for the bugs in the game.
 

tigersty1e

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Originally posted by: videogames101
OMG updating a game! Fixing bugs and exploits! Fixing them QUICKLY! The horror!

rofl...

:roll:

Once every 3 days?

Just fix them all at once and be done with it. Just make 1 big patch, test it properly and release it.
 

tigersty1e

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Originally posted by: mb
Originally posted by: tigersty1e
First off, this is a rant. If you respond negatively to rants stop here.

What's with all these "updates" for TF2? Just make the game right, update it and stop. If you do it right, you don't need these updates...


alright, that's all.

Updates to Team Fortress 2 have been released. The updates will be applied automatically when your Steam client is restarted. The specific changes include:

Team Fortress 2


Fixed clients getting the "Reliable snapshot overflow" error

Fixed another unlimited UberCharge exploit

Fixed elevators not working in user maps

Networking optimizations

Yeah man, fuck that shit. Let me have my Reliable snapshot overflow error. Let people have ulimited ubercharges. Don't fix elevators for people! Let them figure it out on their own! And FFS do NOT make any networking optimizations!!! FUCK YOU STEAM!

They couldn't test for this and patch this in the 15 previous patches?

Elevators not working in user maps? C'mon this type of s*** should've been fixed in the beta version.
 

ZappDogg

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What a stupid thread. You should be happy that Valve is so committed to making TF2 awesome, instead of releasing a half-baked version and letting it ride.
 

KeithTalent

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I fail to see the problem, but I also have my PC on with Steam open 24/7 (running Boinc), so my game is pretty much always up to date.

I like that they just do small patches to fix problems as they arise, rather than waiting and releasing a big patch. I mean, isn't this considered a benefit of Steam?

KT
 
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Wow, never saw someone bitch about something being made better. So many games came out half assed and got half patched and left to die. Kudos to Valve for keeping it updated, keeping the community informed about the updates and keep it going!
I was about as anti-steam as you can get, I was dead wrong.
 

skace

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Originally posted by: tigersty1e
Once every 3 days?

Just fix them all at once and be done with it. Just make 1 big patch, test it properly and release it.

Small patches are better, it means the time between an issue being identified and it being fixed is much smaller. You don't want to have to wait 3 months for a developer to fix a bug where medics can run around invincible.
 
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Originally posted by: tigersty1e
First off, this is a rant. If you respond negatively to rants stop here.

What's with all these "updates" for TF2? Just make the game right, update it and stop. If you do it right, you don't need these updates...


alright, that's all.

That rant sucked. Let me try.

What the hell is with the constant updates for TF2 coming out? It's one thing to release an update to fix a problem, that I understand. But they come out with this supposed glorious update and the only thing, the only thing, it adds is a bunch of pointless achievements and new weapons for one single class! There are nine classes in the game! Is this the new wave of gaming? Episodic multiplayer content? What a complete crock of shit.

Here's the problem. They release all the medic stuff all at once, and nothing for the 8 other classes. Everyone goes, "Hell, I better play medic and get these new weapons." So now every single server that you join is full of medics! "Oh, that balances the game out," you say. Bullshit! There are nine classes. If you have a team of nine people, the law of averages assumes you would have one of each (obviously this isn't true because some maps lend themselves more to one class than another). So when eight people on a team of nine are playing as a single class, something is amiss. And it gets boring remarkably fast. "Oh look, he's invincible. Oh, now that one's invincible. Oh, another one is invincible." And it never ends!

Are they going to do this for every single class? Are they going to do it on the same time scale? If so, we won't see achievement updates for every class until June of 2012. This is retarded. They have absolutely screwed the pooch with this update because they refused to think of the consequences of their actions. It's like they were just sitting around a table saying, "Wouldn't it be cool if the medic had a gun that lit up like a Christmas tree, or something that gave him health... ooh, or an UBERSAW! HOW COOL ARE WE?" And then while they were jumping around like retards trying to pat themselves on the back for being so awesome, they knocked over their ice cream and spent the next three hours crying about it.

And if it weren't bad enough that they added all sorts of useless retarded shit that ruined the game balance, they had to go in and break other shit too. Oh dear, apparently elevators no longer work. Oh look, you can have infinite ubers. Oh, we're bad at coding, cause we're too worried about a sparkler cannon and an UBERSAW! THAT'S SO COOL! SERIOUSLY! Shut the fuck up and fix my game you troglodyte bastards. Stop giving me episodic content that dictates that everyone must play one class simultaneously because they need to be the first on their block to unlock everything. Use patches to fix shit that is broken, but don't break new shit in the process. Give me new maps from time to time. Apart from that, leave my game the hell alone! I already bought the damn thing! I haven't been complaining, "Gee, this game really has it all... but I just can't get into it without an UBERSAW (SERIOUSLY!)." Stop ruining my fun.

I don't actually believe most of that, mind you, but if you're going to rant, rant. One sentence doesn't qualify.
 

Mr Pickles

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Originally posted by: tigersty1e
First off, this is a rant. If you respond negatively to rants stop here.

What's with all these "updates" for TF2? Just make the game right, update it and stop. If you do it right, you don't need these updates...


alright, that's all.

404 Rant F bombs not found...
 

BlueAcolyte

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Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy
Originally posted by: tigersty1e
First off, this is a rant. If you respond negatively to rants stop here.

What's with all these "updates" for TF2? Just make the game right, update it and stop. If you do it right, you don't need these updates...


alright, that's all.

That rant sucked. Let me try.

What the hell is with the constant updates for TF2 coming out? It's one thing to release an update to fix a problem, that I understand. But they come out with this supposed glorious update and the only thing, the only thing, it adds is a bunch of pointless achievements and new weapons for one single class! There are nine classes in the game! Is this the new wave of gaming? Episodic multiplayer content? What a complete crock of shit.

Here's the problem. They release all the medic stuff all at once, and nothing for the 8 other classes. Everyone goes, "Hell, I better play medic and get these new weapons." So now every single server that you join is full of medics! "Oh, that balances the game out," you say. Bullshit! There are nine classes. If you have a team of nine people, the law of averages assumes you would have one of each (obviously this isn't true because some maps lend themselves more to one class than another). So when eight people on a team of nine are playing as a single class, something is amiss. And it gets boring remarkably fast. "Oh look, he's invincible. Oh, now that one's invincible. Oh, another one is invincible." And it never ends!

Are they going to do this for every single class? Are they going to do it on the same time scale? If so, we won't see achievement updates for every class until June of 2012. This is retarded. They have absolutely screwed the pooch with this update because they refused to think of the consequences of their actions. It's like they were just sitting around a table saying, "Wouldn't it be cool if the medic had a gun that lit up like a Christmas tree, or something that gave him health... ooh, or an UBERSAW! HOW COOL ARE WE?" And then while they were jumping around like retards trying to pat themselves on the back for being so awesome, they knocked over their ice cream and spent the next three hours crying about it.

And if it weren't bad enough that they added all sorts of useless retarded shit that ruined the game balance, they had to go in and break other shit too. Oh dear, apparently elevators no longer work. Oh look, you can have infinite ubers. Oh, we're bad at coding, cause we're too worried about a sparkler cannon and an UBERSAW! THAT'S SO COOL! SERIOUSLY! Shut the fuck up and fix my game you troglodyte bastards. Stop giving me episodic content that dictates that everyone must play one class simultaneously because they need to be the first on their block to unlock everything. Use patches to fix shit that is broken, but don't break new shit in the process. Give me new maps from time to time. Apart from that, leave my game the hell alone! I already bought the damn thing! I haven't been complaining, "Gee, this game really has it all... but I just can't get into it without an UBERSAW (SERIOUSLY!)." Stop ruining my fun.

I don't actually believe most of that, mind you, but if you're going to rant, rant. One sentence doesn't qualify.

I am impressed. Where did you get your troll degree? :thumbsup:
 
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Originally posted by: BlueAcolyte
I am impressed. Where did you get your troll degree? :thumbsup:

I made it out of papier mache and crayon. It's shaped like an UBERSAW (THAT'S SO AWESOME!).
 

tigersty1e

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My rant was posted in the heat of the moment.

I was going to play a round of CS: Source and saw I had to wait to download "another" update for TF2. Damn updates cut into my play time.


True rants are 1 liners because the person ranting is so pissed off that they'll get pissed off even more for having to write more than 1 line.