Originally posted by: Arkitech
Mine was around the high 600's and low 700's last time I checked. Since then I've paid off 2 cars, and a home improvement loan. Before June rolls around I'll have paid off 2 primary mortgages and one secondary. Will that elevate my score to the 800's or better?
Originally posted by: MichaelD
I have a very high debt/income ratio b/c I owe a LOT in CCs. BUT, I have not had a single late payment in 9 years. Not one. I don't feel it's fair to lump me into the same category as someone who makes late payments. The only thing that should matter is payment history! I make good money at my SECOND job, in the form of tips. That's how I supplement my income and am able to live well despite a high debt/income ratio...lenders don't seem to care about that though. :|
Thanks Vic.Originally posted by: VicMortgage rates are tiered. While I said that having the absolute best qualifications won't get a better rate, there is no "one" rate either. I know it sounds confusing, but it really isn't.Originally posted by: GroundedSailor
Care to explain that a little more?Originally posted by: Alistar7and for those of you that cant get the best rates, BUY POINTS, 1,000 today is better than 10,000 down the line...
Thanks
In the industry, the set of rates for a single particular program/qualification/term is called the "matrix," and it looks like one. Generally, it's 2 columns. On the left are the rates, on the right are the costs (or "premiums"). Higher rates have premiums, i.e. the lender/investor pays the broker/lender for providing the loan. These are the type of rates that people who get "no point/no fee" loans get (there is NO free loan, the cost is in the rate). Lower rates have "discounts." This is where the borrower "buys" or "pays" points, a "point" being one percent of the total loan amount, in order to "buy down" the rate.
btw, I though I might add that every year, legislation is introduced to Congress by the "anti-predatory lending" groups to do away with premiums. If that ever occurs, the no point/no fee loan is history.
edit:No where near.Originally posted by: Alistar7a point (% rate) is usually about a grand per point, so pay a grand now and get a loan for say 5.9% instead of 6.9%...... go check a mortage calculator and see the difference in monthly payments based on a one point interest difference, then multiply that by the number of payments....
A point is one percentage point of the total loan amount. So for a $100,000 loan, a point may be $1,000 dollars, but for a $200,000 it would be $2,000 dollars. This is known as a point "of fee." It is very different from a point "of rate."
Generally, buying down one point of fee will get only about 0.25% better point of rate.
Originally posted by: morkinva
Hey you can stop looking, I found the place that gives the free credit score ~ www.eloan.com ~
Mine was 816 - woohoo!!
Originally posted by: Alistar7
it will bump it but not that much, those were probably fairly close to being paid off the last time you checked, so it's not like you greatly reduced your income to debt ratio, or % of possible credit in use, if you have all those paid off though you score is irrelevant, you will be able to qualify for anything you desire realistically...
Anyone looking to improve their bad credit I would recommend pulling your report from each company separately and then lauching investigations on EVERYTHING. They give the companies 30 days to respond with their evidence and then make a decision, alot of companies cant move the paper fast enough, don't reply in time and they get dropped off...
Actually no, because the savings from the lower rate increase with the loan amount (even though the buy-down fee increases as well). The best way to decide is to determine how long you intend to be in the home AND keep the mortgage (i.e. not refinance again).Originally posted by: GroundedSailor
Thanks Vic.
So I take it you would not reccomend buying down a point of fee unless your mortgage is small? What would be the best long term strategy?
Originally posted by: PipBoy
you should be proud of me for 2 reasons--
(1) I did a search to get this thread, like a good little ATer should.
(2) my FICO score through myfico.com is 792, w00t!!
Originally posted by: Carbonyl
Originally posted by: Arkitech
Mine was around the high 600's and low 700's last time I checked. Since then I've paid off 2 cars, and a home improvement loan. Before June rolls around I'll have paid off 2 primary mortgages and one secondary. Will that elevate my score to the 800's or better?
Make more money or carry less debt. I was told at the bank 20% is what you should shoot for for a perfect FICO. In other words all payements should be less than 20% of your income.
Originally posted by: joshsquall
Hm... okay. I'm 19 years old. I just signed up on eloan.com to see if I even had a credit score yet.
I entered in all my own personal info, and it came up with my score as a 684. That's all fine and dandy, but then it says I have a home loan out for $140k and I have missed payments on accounts 3 times in the past 3 months. I really hope this is a system error on eloan, and not identity theft or something.
Josh
Originally posted by: Alistar7
850, to be considered as having top line credit the big three need 25 YEARS credit history at LEAST, these people posting those high scores (800+) obviously have long outsanding credit histories...
Originally posted by: ultimatebob
Anything over 720 is considered a "top tier" credit rating, so any score over that is only useful for bragging rights.
Speaking of bragging rights, my score was around 780 the last time I checked![]()
