What's the difference?

[Vic]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
A "neocon" in P&N terms is anyone a Liberal doesn't agree with. You see, they seem to think it's an all-purpose derogatory word for the right.

CsG

And the word "liberal" isn't the same for the neocons (and for a lot longer)? Let's not be too hypocritical, CAD...

No, "liberal" is not an all-purpose derogatory word. The left seems to shy away from it for whatever reasons though. Liberal is a broad ideological term - just like Conservative.
I am proud to be be a Conservative and embrace it, I'm not sure why more liberals don't embrace their ideology -they seem to want to change the name all the time and not admit they are a liberal.

CsG

Ah, CAD... the doublethink is still strong with you.

 

[Jhhnn]

Here- let the father of today's Neocons define it, himself-

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/003/000tzmlw.asp

And there's the reverse spin, here, about their ideological grandaddy-

http://www.logosjournal.com/mason.htm

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: piasabird
Neocon is some label that the press started using because they could not pronounce conservative! Besides, it sounds meaner and more down to the earth so poor undereducated sixpack liberals can understand it.

No, neoconservative, and conservative, have little in common.

 

[Stunt]

I agree 3chord...neocons have very little to do with conservatives.
It really bugs me how ppl think conservative = republican

 

[SuperTool]

Pat Buchanan = con.
Dick Cheney = neocon

 

[Kibbo]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
A "neocon" in P&N terms is anyone a Liberal doesn't agree with. You see, they seem to think it's an all-purpose derogatory word for the right.

CsG

And the word "liberal" isn't the same for the neocons (and for a lot longer)? Let's not be too hypocritical, CAD...

No, "liberal" is not an all-purpose derogatory word. The left seems to shy away from it for whatever reasons though. Liberal is a broad ideological term - just like Conservative.
I am proud to be be a Conservative and embrace it, I'm not sure why more liberals don't embrace their ideology -they seem to want to change the name all the time and not admit they are a liberal.

CsG

CAD, you have a strange habit of confusing "dave schmitt" with "liberals."

Funny, a smart guy like you confusing the singular and plural.

And the reason that liberals sometimes shy away from the word is that in the current political discourse (and wehn I say current i mean the last 20 years) "liberal" has almost become a dirty word.

Which is really funy, since in many countries, it is synonmous with old-school Republican values.

 

[azazyel]

Originally posted by: SuperTool
Pat Buchanan = con.
Dick Cheney = neocon

True

The Anit-Conservatives

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: SuperTool
Pat Buchanan = con.
Dick Cheney = neocon

I was going to post them but Cheney is torn due to family issue so he is not a true Neo.

 

[MCWAR]

posted by cwjerome

Quote:
NeoCon: Former Democrats whose main goal is to push a foreign policy centered around helping Israel
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Thais is exactly right. All these other definitions/assertions are just lefty name calling tactics.

 

[shira]

NeoConservative: The philosophical position of the One when he gets sick and tired of providing handouts to all those welfare-cheating, laid-off Agents.